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Christie: Israel Only Middle East Nation That Stands Up For American Values

Governor says Jerusalem must remain under Israeli control, and that Israel and US "share the same values of freedom, liberty"

 

Gov. Chris Christie told religious leaders Wednesday that Israel is the only country in the Middle East that stands up for the “bedrock” of US values.

The governor, who spent the Holy Week with his family in Israel and Jordan,  said he was moved by displays of people celebrating different religions, and said it is an important lesson for Americans.

“Israel and the United States share the same values of freedom, liberty and everyone being allowed to worship as they see fit,” the governor said.

"I think that's sometimes what we forget about our relationship with Israel. We talk about the Middle East in a generalized way, but the only country that stands up for the values that are the bedrock of this country is Israel,” he said.

Speaking at the Shimon and Sara Birnbaum Jewish Community Center in Bridgewater, Christie also said that it is important that Jerusalem “remain under Israeli control.”

Christie said the trip brought a better understanding of the importance of security measures taken by Israel. He said he had the opportunity to speak to a major in the Israeli army, who showed him that Syria and Lebanon can be seen from the Golan Heights in Israel.

“That is extremely important for Israel,” he said. “I didn’t realize how important until I saw that.”

The governor said he concluded that Israel is going very well economically and that he is looking at ways to expand business from Israel into New Jersey. He said he spoke to pharmaceutical and other companies about bringing jobs here.

“To go to Israel and hopefully bring back jobs is great,” he said. “We gave good reasons why the environment is changing, and we have the best work force here.”

Christie said he met with representatives from Better Place, a company developing electric car technology, and answered a question about whether New Jersey should move forward with looking into that technology.

“We have to balance everything, the investment of the state and how well it would work,” Christie said. “We are having further conversations, but we were encouraged by this. Other energy sources are extremely important in New Jersey.”

Christie said he is hoping there will be more announcements in the coming months about ways of pairing the economic climate between New Jersey and Israel, which he said was one of his goals in going to the country. This was the first overseas trip of his term.

Christie is also planning to hold similar meetings around the state to discuss the trip.

Following his time in Israel, where he met with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Shimon Peres, Christie said he spent the weekend with his family in Jordan, and met with King Abdullah II.

“I was impressed with what a man of good will he is,” Christie said.

Asked about the possibility of a Jewish Cultural Education Commission or some other organization to aid in providing Jewish knowledge in schools, Christie said he is concerned about adding more regulations in public schools.

“I want to free up educators to decide what they think is most important to impart to our kids,” he said, adding that the state already requires Holocaust education. “But we’re looking at it, and will probably say something before July."

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Nick Petros

3:46 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Illegal occupation, state racism and apartheid are NOT American values, mr. christie!!!!!!.

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JOEL WEINBERGER

11:56 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Please ask your self why does over one million Arabs own or Make their Livelihood in Israel. They are also dying everyday by Terrorists that are not Reported. Housing is fairly distributed. There is No Racial profiling but a great need for Security.

You are a racist. Palestinians have been thrown out By all Midlle East Countries as major Risk to their Countries by being Thiefs, Liars etc.

Get your facts straight.

If Terrorism was so prevalent relative to size there would be Military action,

Wake up and Smell the Coffee.

No Democracy Afround the World.

Just what Nationality is the Biggest Threat to Democracy and Terroism in Europe and the Middle East.

Libya, Shyria, Iran, Iraq are not Racially profiling and others.

Be fair to what is thde Real situation.

Keep the General Populice ignorant and keep in Control.

We the People need to be Safe.

Not Practice your under lying /raciall Profiling.

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John Edwards

7:03 pm on Friday, April 13, 2012

I totally agree Nick, but Im sure this fat Governor was paid handsomely to speak kindly of Israel as is done with other politicians here in the United States, "campaign contributions" or bribes as I see them are the only incentives to politicians that speaks volumes. Do you think our politicians really care about either the Palestinians or Israelis? LOL, they only care for money and thats what Israel has lots of since WE give them over 3 BIllion a year, they take 200 Million from it and bribe our own politicians like Christie...If only Christie visited palestine he would be shocked on how Israel who is the "victim" is so twisted and sick in the head how they commit genocide and murder 10 times as many women and children than Hamas does...but im sure Christie wont go to Palestine, they're poor and cant pay christie the money for his campaigns

Cathy Benson

5:10 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Wow Nick I assume you only read the Record and the NY TImes? Israel is not an illegal occupier, racist, or an apartheid state. Those are charges used by Israel's ememies to delegitimize and destroy Israel. Look at the other countries in the Middle East and find one where minorities are protected, Muslims, Christians, and Jews are allowed to worship and build, and women and homosexuals have equal rights...good luck on that...

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Nick Petros

8:54 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012

I guess bulldozing the indigenous Semite people of Palestine out of their ancestral homes, subjecting them to countless invasive checkpoints on the way to homes, school or work, putting people in reservation style blockaded patchwork homeland settlements, I guess by your thinking and the guy below "user 07024", that's not a racist or apartheid state, but a democracy, your logic is beyond twisted. israel got legitimization because the europeans were more than happy to rid their own countries of their very own non-Semite jewish citizens and unload them on the Semite people of Palestine!. That's an actual fact of history, not some religious superstitious mythology you are trying to bullshit people with!

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John Edwards

7:03 pm on Friday, April 13, 2012

Cathy: Nytimes is wriiten by Liberal Jews and so is the record.. whats your point? that nayone who speaks the truth about Israel should be attacked in the same manner that you and weinberger are doing? I see Israel trying to destroy their neighbors honey...I dont see palestinians stealing homes of Israelis, or putting economic sanctions on them, or building a wall right through israelis homees...dont ever say we are like Israel..that offends me as an American and makes me and our brothers and sisters here in the United States feel small to be compared to the terrorist nation of Israel

User 07024

5:28 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012

The Arabs could have had peace multiple times, and decades ago. It is their refusal to accept Jews ANYWHERE in the Middle East that is the ultimate in racism and bigotry. Israel is a shining light in a dark place, and the Arabs that live there have more rights than anywhere else in the Muslim world - just ask the citizens being slaughtered in Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, Libya, Sudan, etc...

Anti-Israel = Jew hater.

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Nick Petros

9:09 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Anti israel = jew hater, that's your argument?, The europeans wouldn't accept their own non-Semite jewish citizens and they conveniently unloaded them on the indigenous Semite people of Palestine. Only a racist and apartheid state like the old So. Africa and israel put people in patchwork style blockaded settlement homeland reservations and subjects them to daily humiliating checkpoint searches going to school, home or work, or bulldozes out of ancestral homes, and not to mention any rights of citizenship or the right to vote. But I guess by your twisted thinking and critique or mention of israeli criminality or Palestinian rights is jew hating.

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John Edwards

7:03 pm on Friday, April 13, 2012

LOL, the Race card? LOL, i think your race card has been worn out, as Jews are the biggest racist in the world... dont Jews believe that they are superior to Non-Jews? because you're supposedly the chosen people? LOL, thats called Jewish supremacy.. we basically traded in one nut job(Hitler) for another (Israel)...Great how many more weirdos are going to think they are superior to the rest of the world... Hey dont Jews HATE muslims? not so honorable as Jews are you?

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Ridgewood Mom

11:46 pm on Friday, April 13, 2012

John,

Jews don't hate Muslims. Jews come in many stripes, in that regard, just as Muslims and Christians do. On your other points, I also don't buy the logic that would position anyone who stands up for the dignity of Muslims and persons in Middle Eastern nations other then Israel is a Jew hater. But your generalizations about Jews do come across as a bit prejudicial. And, without wishing to label you, I am rather certain that antisemitism IS alive and well throughout the world, even in Bergen county. Have you not noticed the incidents being reported in the Patch lately?

May I suggest that Judaism is a much broader thing then you are taking it for? The idea of "Jewish supremacy," in particular, is about as far from Judaism is about as one could get.

Mike Kupchik

6:29 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Oh yeah? Sorry, but that's the best I got for a senior citizen. I hope all of you felt a bit threatened. Time to toss a Springsteen CD in my Walkman and nod-off a bit.

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Ridgewood Mom

8:43 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012

I don't think that Israel is an illegal occupier, racist, apartheid state, etc. I am pro-Israel. But whatever any of us think about Israel, Christie has publicly declared himself a bigot here. He may have been complimenting Israel, but is rather clearly slighting every single other country in the Middle East.

"(In)... the Middle East... the ONLY country that stands up for the values that are the bedrock of this country is Israel." (parentheses and boldface mine)

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Cathy Benson

8:54 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Ridgewood Mom...name one middle East country that is a democracy and has similar values to the USA?

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John Edwards

7:03 pm on Friday, April 13, 2012

Jordan...Egypt and Iraq's leaders are under our thumb and do what we want so they were never a democracy...Israel itself is not a democracy either.. the one who usually gets elected is the one who gives out the most threats to people.. on top of that Israel was created through the genocide of the inhabitants that once lived there (Palestinians) and today a democracy says everyone is equal...if you're a muslim or a christian you are not allowed to fully own your home or land, you can only own 1/3 of it..its called the jewish supremacy laws..unless you're jewish you cant fully own the house or land..look it up...Israel is not a democracy nor acts like a democracy.. we as Americans are not murdering, raping,pillaging, or bombing our neighbors..again we are nothing like Israel..stop the propoganda

Ridgewood Mom

9:22 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012

I'd rather emphasize the need for people to work together despite their differences, and I would prefer to see our political leaders representing the United States as a place that is inclusive rather then exclusive.

E pluribus unum

You may, of course, sympathize with Christie's bigotry. We can just agree to disagree on that one. But let's just be clear. It is a bigotry.

"bigot /ˈbɪgət/
▶noun
A person who is prejudiced in their views and intolerant of the opinions of others."

www.wordreference.com/definition/bigotry

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Cathy Benson

11:06 pm on Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Call me a bigot then....I am intolerant of the way Saudi Arabia treats their women (must cover everything but their eyes, cannot go out or get a job or travel without a male guardian, cannot drive a car). I am intolerant of the Hamas who rule Gaza whose charter says to kill the Jews. If being a bigot means to hate these opinions of others then call me a bigot

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Ridgewood Mom

12:08 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

There are approximately 1000 reported rapes every year in the state of New Jersey. It wouldn't make much sense, though, to say that we don't like the way that New Jersey "treats their women." It may surprise you, but there are Saudis who disagree with the sorts of things that you mentioned too.

I have no problem, at all, with your particular criticisms of certain things that go on in certain Middle Eastern countries other then Israel. But let's be honest. We can find much to criticize that goes on in Israel and in the United States too.

Moreover, it is a very different thing to point out these sorts of things then it is to state that Israel is "the ONLY country that stands up for the values that are the bedrock of" the United States.

Firstly, take a real look around America. People from everywhere are to be found here. Some only choose to notice the cultural influences of a place or two in particular that they happen to identify with. But if we really look at all of America, then "American values" are, whether we like it or not, manifold. Importantly, the core standards that bind us as a single people begin with tolerance and inclusiveness.

So what sort of message does Christie's chauvinism send to the millions of people in the Middle East who are not Israelis? Are his version of "American values" shining examples for "the Hamas who rule Gaza whose charter says to kill the Jews?"

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Me

10:12 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Ridgewood Mom, stop skirting Cathy's question and just answer it.

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Ridgewood Mom

11:06 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

I was not "skirting" Cathy's question. Read what I wrote.

In ALL countries in the Middle East there are values to be found that are similar to those found in the United States, just as is the case with Israel. Insofar as there are differences, there is also much difference to be found between Israel and the United States and, quite significantly, within the United States.

The idea that Israel and the US have some sort of special similarity that the rest of the middle east does not share with the US is not a statement of what those countries actually are, but a statement of inclusion and exclusion. It is a mirrored perpetuation of the very "us and them" mentality that drives the tensions in the middle east to begin with. For example, the anti-semitic positions of Hamas leaders.

It also represents a profound misunderstanding about what a culture and a nation are and aren't. Why do we regard that Saudi Arabia does not treat "their women" well? If there is a harm being committed against women in Saudi Arabia such that those Saudi women might not cherish and value it, then why are these victims not entitled to be the ones who define Saudi culture?

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Zigi P

11:30 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Ridgewood Mom:
1. do tell of another Mid East country that comes close to the values of this country - what other country has open elections? What other country allows non-indigenous to be in the govt (do you expect to see a Jew in the Kuwait or Syrian Govt?) What other country would allow the construction of a religious temple of any denomination?
2. regarding how women are treated - you seem to be confusing state-sponsored actions (i.e. restrictions on what women can do) vs what individuals do (i.e.rape). There are bad people everywhere (and people in bad places that disagree with their local environ), but the issue here is what is state sanctioned,
3. re "So what sort of message does Christie's chauvinism send to the millions of people in the Middle East who are not Israelis? Are his version of "American values" shining examples for "the Hamas who rule Gaza whose charter says to kill the Jews?". FYI Hamas has been around long before Christie got elected.

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Ridgewood Mom

3:01 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Zigi: "do tell of another Mid East country that comes close to the values of this country"
As I said, all of them.

Zigi: "what other country has open elections?"
Are open elections a statement of values or something else? If persons in nations where people are unable to take part in elections were able to take part, how many do you think would choose not to? If a dictator would arise in the US that could prevent citizens from participating in open elections, would that mean that Americans no longer valued such participation?

Zigi: "you seem to be confusing state-sponsored actions (i.e. restrictions on what women can do) vs what individuals do (i.e.rape)."
You are correct in pointing out that there is a difference between the actions of a state and those of an individual. Also, you have pointed out that the governments of the United States and Israel are more responsive to the interests of their general populations than are those of other Middle Eastern nations. So if we are to be consistent, we must acknowledge that the greater divide between the responsiveness of government to the will of those governed, amongst said Middle Eastern nations, is strong evidence to the point that such states can not be said to represent their people's "values."

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John Edwards

7:03 pm on Friday, April 13, 2012

Cathy: its Israel who states they want to wipe Palestine off the map themselves so dont tell me Israelis are angels.. and by the way do some homework on your sup[erior jews of Israel who murder 10 TIMES as many women and children as Hamas does, so if Hamas is a terrorist organization than what does that make Israel for killing 10 times as many civilians? I know Cathy you're jewish and your loyalty is to Israel 100000 times more than it is to the United States...please do not insult us here in the U.S. and try to spread propoganda that Israel is a good nation when their actions speak louder than words.. we're living in the 21st century where information is easily obtained.. in other words dont LIE

User 07024

8:52 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

@NIck - here's your history lesson, we'll go one by one
1) Europe dumped Jews into Israel? Gotta tell ya Nick, there's been a continual Jewish preswence in the Holy Land more than a thousand years. THAT IS the ancestral Jewish homeland! Also.. the modern Zionist period predates WW II by about 80 years.
2) Blockaded Settlements = disputed territories. In 1948 the Arabs could have chosen to have their own homeland; they rejected it and chose to make war on the Jews. Peace has been rejected several times more. The war against the Jews continues. Maybe if the Arabs choose peace, things could ease.
3) Bulldozed houses: absolutely. If there's a weapons cache, or a terror enclave, or someone shooting rockets, Israel's security forces do what is necessary to protect it's citizens - Jew, Christian and (believe it or not) Arab.
4) Checkpoints: absolutely. If there's a homicidal Arab terrorist willing to kill innocents in a pizzeria, on a bus, in a school, in a disco, or at a Passover Seder Israel's security forces do what is necessary to protect it's citizens - Jew, Christian and (believe it or not) Arab.

Now here's a few questions for you: how many times have you been to Israel?
And how long have you hated Jews?

I hope this penetrates the concrete. Kiss-kiss!

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Nick Petros

12:15 am on Saturday, April 14, 2012

You may have not received my last response, due to some of the adjectives I used, I will iterate for you as well as weinburger: I Wouldn't give a half a shekel for you superstitious religious mythology anymore than I would for the many other religious superstitious stupidities that have plagued mankind and cost countless lives since time immemorial. The northern european and slav non-Semite squatter occupiers are treated as they are because they are illegally occupying land which does not belong to them (U.N. Resol. 242). They are and will be treated and resisted as occupiers by the indigenous people they are occupying. I've been to Palestine several times in the last ten years, and my response to your "kiss-kiss" is likely the reason it wasn't published, I will let you figure out what that was.

jp1

11:37 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Why is it that Israel can never do no wrong?

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John Edwards

7:03 pm on Friday, April 13, 2012

Israel murders 10 times as many women and children than Hamas does... Israel does much wrong.. what other country(Israel) bans chips and soda to Palestine? LOL, did you hear Israel said they need to ban chips and soda for Israels defense,LOL

Edge

12:27 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

We have to selectively support and encourage those progressive, humane, and tolerant segments of the Arab Community, rather blankedly denigrate the entire cullture.

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Zigi P

12:51 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

@ridgewoodmom re why if culture is harmful to women then why does it not change? cuz women have no say.

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Ridgewood Mom

3:01 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

If women can be regarded as victims in such places, and I think that both you and I will agree that they often are, then it makes no sense to regard the "values" of those victims as comprising a culture that lacks the set of humane values that might be falsely assumed to be uniquely "ours."

Just to be clear, I am comfortable as you are with constructive cultural criticism and the insistence upon "standards" as the basis for a civil society. I am no cultural relativist.

P.S. I really don't think that you are a bigot. You obviously care about Saudi women, or else you would be happy to see them suffer. I am also quite skeptical about the motivations behind Christie's words. To ally oneself with Israel is a prudent political move, but I suspect lip service. If he were to have it his way, I think, America would be understood as a "Christian" nation and not a "Judeo-Christian one.

Scondo

1:29 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Exactly what are the shared values ? It is easy to say that we share the same values without defining them. As to those who would speak to the Saudi treatment of women, I say look to some of the ultra Orthodox and the treatment of their women, are they different ? Define these values before you presume to say that we share the same ones.

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Cathy Benson

2:43 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Shared Values USA and Israel: Seperation of church and state, individual rights and freedom, free speech, equality. Yes religion influences state laws, however Israel does not make everyone follow orthodox laws while many other Mideast countries adapt Sharia law for everyone. People are free in USA and Israel to speak their minds, including cursing God and questioning laws and religion. THis is not so in other mid east countries. People are free to build churchs, mosques, and synagogues, not so in other mideast countries. People are free to change religions or be atheists in USA and Israel, not so......etc. etc. Do you need more examples?
Islam is a religion and a political system. There is no questioning Sharia or Islam if you are in a Muslim state, there is no changing your religion (unless you become Muslim), minorities (homosexuals, women, infidels(non-muslims) are not equal under Sharia.

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Ridgewood Mom

3:33 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

I think that Islam is a much bigger umbrella then you take it for Cathy.

There are many Muslims who do not take it that way. There are also many Christians and Jews who take their religion that way. Some might even say that there are Atheists who take themselves that way.

Rolf

2:43 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

It's funny that social conservatives actually share many values with Middle Eastern countries - just not as extreme.

Treatment of Women - Saudi Arabia doesn't allow women to drive.
Conservatives don't want women to have any reproductive rights.

Treatment of Gays - Arab Nations allow gays to be stoned to death.
Conservatives deny gays equal rights, and occasionally even commit hate crimes against them.

Treatment of Religious Minorities - Arab nations persecute the minorities
Conservatives want to remove the bill of rights for Muslims.

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Zigi P

3:01 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

@rolf - the comparison you make compares COUNTRY to PEOPLE. The original article is in regard to israel and you turn it into conservative bashing. Restate your point wrt Israel. Stay on topic; you wil have more credibility.

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Ridgewood Mom

3:46 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

As to the topic, Christie had conflated the two prior to the start of the conversation. He has made synonym of state governments and the values of the cultures over which they preside. There is no mention of good Islamic people crippled by oppressive regimes. There is only declaration of a partnership with the US that includes Israel and excludes the whole of the rest of the Middle East.

Jon

1:00 am on Friday, April 13, 2012

Ridgewood Mom?? Comparing countries in mid east where women are stoned to death,not allowed to learn to read, vote or participate in society in any meaningful way ( by their govt/religion) to the United States is utter nonsense as well as reprehensible..No kidding we are not perfect but get some perspective, the sad but true fact is those countries will remain 4th world (at best) hell holes until women are given basic societal rights, and the ability to voice concern for the well being of their own children... and Rolf seriously??? did you really compare the debate about gay marriage to government sponsored murder??

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Phyllis Sharpe

1:00 am on Friday, April 13, 2012

Personally I think Gov. Christie's trip to Isreal and comments had two purposes, both for him politically.
As governor he was looking to encourage Israeli businesses to look for opportunities in New Jersey, and since New Jersey has a high population of Jewish voters this would also help him personally in the governor's race.
And it gave him credentials for international experience should he be considered in the national elections as vice president.
And, yes Rolf, Christie is a republican, i.e. conservative.
For those of you concerned about women's rights, read Orhan Pamuk's book "Snow"
about the effects on young women as Turkey became a Republic. Not all Muslim women continue to wear a head scarf or face and head cover because their husbands say so. For many it is a religious committment to God.
Yes, I am a Christian, not politically conservative, and I am thinking seriously of my committment to God.

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Mattaccino

1:00 am on Friday, April 13, 2012

Israel is a theocracy, not a democracy and Palestinians are Semites, not Arabs.

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Art Elmers

9:47 am on Friday, April 13, 2012

Israel can win many wars but lose ony one......

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Mr

7:56 am on Saturday, April 14, 2012

Just to be clear Im from Egypt and I strongly oppose the Islamist regimes in both Saudi and Iran but you can't go around making ridiculous generalizations about the equality of men and women in the middle east based on what YOU think! According to 2008 statistics Israel was number 6 when it came to women raped per capita. Now I know what you're gonna say probably something about the fact that it has nothing to do with the gov. Of Israel and you're wrong! Because obviously the gov. plays a key role in preventing crime... Otherwise we wouldn't need any now would we? There's good in Israel but thes bad too. Another issue I want to address is the wearing of the headscarf and/or burka which is purely optional except in Iran where it's mandatory and Saudi where it is frowned upon not to dress in such attire.. Now unlike what most westerners think this is a show of faith and trust in God not a way of unequalizing women. And just so you can get your facts straight it's the stupidest thing to call Arabs anti-Semitic because many of us are Semitic

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Chris Hansen

5:01 pm on Saturday, April 14, 2012

This may be a good topic for investigation and discussion on a television network program aired during prime time. Cathy vs. John and so on.

Jimmy Lutz: AIPAC is the second largest lobby in Washington D.C. after AARP. That too, may be an interesting program for prime time.

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Mildred Bayes

5:54 pm on Monday, April 16, 2012

Dear Mr. Hansen,

I am flattered that you have taken time from your busy schedule to participate in our discussion.

I want you and everyone else here to know I am very open-minded about every subject and topic including the Israeli/Palestinian situation in Israel (formerly Palestine).

I love Americans, Jews, gentiles, and Arabs. I have a slight problem with my mother-in-law, but that is considered normal for most women. But if you knew my MIL you would understand even better.

So once again, welcome to our small corner of the world, and if you ever want to interview me for one of your programs I'd be happy to make myself available. Just give me enough time to get my hair and nails done, and time to shop for a new outfit.

Thanks.

Cath

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Ira

11:52 am on Tuesday, May 15, 2012

Any politician condemning Israel commits political suicide. Right or wrong.

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