Finance Director Trasente was correct. MSV covers the irony of the latest actions putting the legal work opposing the Monarch and paying firefighters at risk.

Typical MORTe:

http://hobokenhorse.com

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If that is the case, it is time to start counter suing for the city's legal expenses. Make them pay for trying to force the city to waste money if the suit has absolutely no merit what so ever.

Of course that was this is about. Who is suing th eCIty? Off fo the top of my head I can think of that idiot Campbbell that is in cohoots with Bet Mazin, and there are plenty of others. The practice has long been to have some insider sue the city and then the lawyers for the City slow stroke the case, milk it for lgeal fees and then set it up for a nice fat settlement payday and everyone gets their beak wet. That is how the game has been played for years and years. It no longer is being played as I understand that the CIty is now taking a hard line on settlement. WHy do you think Scarinici, who used to be the primary defense counsel for the CIty , turned traitor during the hospital sale? Peel back the layers of the onion, and follow the money. Why do you think that the coucnil memebrs form the Old Gaurd hate teh asst City counsel so much - she has become the new legal watchhdog and is not playing ball in accorandce with Old Guard rules.

I'd like the victories to start including some damages against the people who file these frivolous suits. Russo for example should be paying the BOE's legal fees for his attempted shakedown.

ANother exapmple was Pa Russo's bogus asbestos workers comp claim - but this time the City actaully fought hard and won. Most folks just recall that Pa Russo lost, not what the victory for the CIty actually meant.

Courts are intended to work out disagreements in a civil and orderly manner. Before a claim is made, a judge rules on whether it is a valid claim (has some legal standing). Valid does not mean necessarily "right" or "wrong" but rather, there is a legitimate legal issue in dispute. If a claim is indeed "bogus" either a judge will not agree to entertain it or it is expected that the defendant's lawyer will present evidence that the plaintiff's case is without merit (= "bogus").

If in fact Mr. Russo's claims were "bogus" as Redrider insinuates (but does not substantiate) then it can be assumed there is reasonable expectation that the Board/City's attorney did not act in the best interest of their client by not requesting that the judge rule the suit essentially bogus. Of course, this would also mean less fees paid to the attorney since the attorney's are paid by the hour. A dismissal is much less expensive than a "decision" since a decision (legitimate claim) generally has discovery, depositions, testimonies, etc..

Perhaps Redrider should be venting at least some of his distain toward the defendants legal team.

Legal advice now from the same curioustwit who didn't know that we have an election every November. Now that's rich.

I'm curious - have you actually run your theory that "there's no such thing as a nuisance suit because judge's just throw them right out if asked" past anybody with a college education? You might want to consider doing so before posting again unless your goal is to simply enhance your growing reputation as this board's biggest imbecile.

Yeah, legal advice from someone so clueless is rather humorous to read. She is a little too obtuse to have any clue what the hell she is talking about.

Idiot gal wrote

"Courts are intended to work out disagreements in a civil and orderly manner. Before a claim is made, a judge rules on whether it is a valid claim (has some legal standing)."

She has just confioremd that she trily is, hands down, the offical MORON OF THE INTERNET!!!!! She has landed atop the likes of whiskeytango a gogo and others. But undeniably, by far, the biddest idiot. Please, dont edumacate her about why she is so dumb, just leave her in her thoughtless state of blissful imbecility.

Uh, you drunk or something? Major? There? All place?

Who is the major? I agree that we are entiltled to be governed by at least a colonel now that our population has exceeded 50,000. We should either promote her or get rid of her. Maybe we should add that as non binding ballot question to the November ballot if this is one of those unusual years in which we have a November election. Maybe Curioustwit can look it up for us.

I refused to be governed by anything less than an O6.

Divisions usually are run by generals and Hoboken is bigger than 2 divisions combined. Technically, we might qualify as a Corps. I think we merit at least a 2 star general, maybe a 3 star if we are lucky. But no way in hell a major would run a town w/ 50K residents.

Are you for real? The best thing that ever happened to this city was Zimmer's election and the mold guard's loss of the Council major-ity. If was up to the complete and utter crooks that you support, our taxes would have tripled by now, not been reduced.

Yeah because moochers have been lined up and waiting for their just due of taxpayer monies in envelopes given out to you and your pals.

Don't count on it.

Which is why the Old Guard morons are lining up "Bush's Florida attorney" for another frivolous law suit on 'Letting the People Decide' so their CC counterparts and operatives like yourself can wail about exorbitant legal fees. Pitchers and hitters.

And of course there's the ginned up Cammarano lawsuit and the ginned up Campbell lawsuit... and all the extra attorney fees ($500K or thereabouts) because your gal MASON fought like hell against the HUMC sale and dragged that out to the City's expense.

You-all should shut your yaps. You force the City;s professionals to work, so they have to get paid.

How about asking Flo Amato why she's suing HOBOKEN for the unpaid balance on an ILLEGAL campaign loan she made to Cammarano's campaign? You shill for the CROOKS.

http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2011/12/more-cammy-complaint-funny-business.html

Eh, hard to take a guy seriously who shills for a vote buyer especially when his wife helped work on a campaign that passed out so many checks and incompetently filled out those campaign filings she was responsible for submitting.

Yes, John Keim, I agree...MAYOR DAVE ROBERTS, that is!

John Keim please name me 2 suits that have been brought on by the executive office and explain how the executive brought on the suit. The class will wait why you gather yourself.

Well lookee here, John Krime is back! How's the syndicate treating you, Mr. Krime?

John Krime yearns longingly for the good old days when the city didn't have any disgruntled ex-employees because the gravy train fleecers made sure there was enough graft to go around. A few payoffs here and there make everyone happy and keep the peace, ain't that right, Mr. Krime? Ah, the good old days!

Too bad Dawn Zimmer has not been arrested or incarcerated yet. That is the #1 criterion for earning Mr. Krime's support. Nothing like a little jail time to prove your muster to run Hoboken properly. Thanks, as always, for your unique perspective, Mr. Krime.

The sad part is that you actually believe the crap that you post. See GA today and she has the real deal on how all this has gone down.

Maybe Dawn should make a statement that she will personally pay for any lawsuits which result from EXECUTIVE incompetence, intimidation, or deliberate harassment (including settlements) by she or her staff.

prosbus the RAT, it's amazing you still creep out of your rathole after what you did to Perry Belfiore.

The Feds are getting CLOSER....

http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/02/tapping-hornets-nest.html

Will Mason & Russo pay the city's expenses related to any criminal wrongdoing? Yeah, didn't think so considering the Russo family owes the city a few hundred grand already related to that & it is suspected that multiple criminal investigations are ongoing that may involved either those 2 or their lackeys.

Oh, I think I can speak for almost everyone on here when I say we think you're stupid and possibly corrupt. Your love of Beth Mason has your head so far up her bum you can smell her farts but can't see the light. It's pathetic.

Arezzo should have been fired a decade or more ago. The man was as corrupt as they come according to countless victims of his "pay me now" tactics. Andrianni was on the SWAT debacle under Roberts. Campbell? I don't know who that is. But if you're defending either of the first two, or suggesting they have a case, you're a bigger ass than I thought.

You tell em John!!!!! My other screen name CG has already explained to these idiots that the fact that the Judge didn't throw out these lawsuits on day 1 proves that they all have "merit" and are caused by Zimmer's incompetence. Everyone knows that you can't say things in a lawsuit if its not true - that could get the lawyer in trouble which is why lawyers always tell the truth like when Donald Scarincci made all those charges that the stupid judge threw out when he let that shrew save the hospital we were trying to destroy. .

Everyone who sues the City is a heroic truthteller - that's why Beth offers to pay their legal fees and help in anyway she can. It's a shame that her support for all these noble lawsuits can't be discussed publicly due to all those unfair conflict rules she's violating but someday the story will be told and everyone will know of her power.

We love you Beth!!

The Old Guard knows the history of Hoboken is that if you sue you get paid off. Mayor Zimmer ended this horrendous practice.

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I noticed you didn't include Riccardi or Aliccea and their purported suits. Is it because they were frivolous on their face? These jokers claim rules were broken but that's just their claim. In fact some of the legal bills are because the city is now fighting frivolous lawsuits so that in the future they won't occur.

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John I hope one day you put your bitterness behind you. Ines' freeholder loss was no one's fault, perhaps her own but it's debatable if she ever had a path to victory.

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John there are people are around you who happily use you, your wife, and your savings as cannon fodder. Ines came in a distant third and there were people telling you to hire a lawyer and fight for a recount for God's sake. Maybe it's time to look at who these people really are.

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John, I wish you and Ines the best of luck with coming to grips with what they did to you. It won't be easy but it's the path to a healthy life.

RedHaven, Never admit your curiousgal alias!!!! C'mon honey.

Now let's hit Macy's later. Boy's suits are on sale

Mr. Krime, do you mean "personnel issues"? These are the matters of administration employees to which you refer. As opposed to "personal issues," like the ones that can lead to irrational and erratic behavior and mouth-foaming dementia.

As to the examples you cited, yes, you are correct, this administration is likely not the most comfortable haven for "workers" of this caliber.
Campbell: Do-nothing schlub who even Roberts had the good sense to supplement with another employee who didn't think he desk was on the front steps of City Hall by the ashtray. Poster child for Old Guard indifference to productivity so long as you're a "friend."
Andriani: Poster child for police misconduct/impropriety. Guns-to-bimbos scandal, Tampa airport scandal, unadulturated scumbag, face of disgrace.
Arezzo: Really, John? Really??? One of the most notoriously, shamelessly corrupt city officials in Hoboken history, the focal point through which many of the city's worst practices used to run?

This is what it's come to, John? Seriously? And what, because Zimmer doesn't call you and your wife and stroke your deluded, overblown egos? "Personal issues," indeed. Get help.

The coordinated response should be to countersue for legal expenses every time.

easier said than done--- let them try. Again, if a suit is valid, neither party is going to recoup legal costs.

But I thought all suits were valid since all not valid suits were thrown out instantly by the judge if only the city's lawyers were smart enough to ask. That's what Curioustwit said anyway and except for not knowing that we have elections every November she knows pretty much everything just like you.

Its time to switch to new screennames - prosbus and curioustwit are too firmly established as imbeciles to be taken seriously by anybody.

Sorry John, read you own comment again. If you are not defending the merits of the people suing the City, then you can NOT conclude anything.

The cases involving personnel are not a ton, not even the majority of the cases before the City Council in a special meeting next Wednesday.

Here's where you have the option to read the list of cases on tap and educate yourself on reality:

http://hobokenhorse.com

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Nobody in Masonland cares about reality or the truth.

I am only commenting on the fact that there are a ton of suits out there having to do with the improper hiring/firing procedures of the EXECUTIVE branch

Agree completely. Russo and Roberts and those before them should not have hired such awful corrupt people as Arezzo, Campbell, and Correa, as their records of ineffectiveness of fraud shows. Of course, Zimmer has to do what she can to get rid of these guys, otherwise the city will never get clear of the path that the convicted felons who used to run this town left us in.

As for the dragging on, GA has a nice post about that, the fact that lawyers, who may also have been corrupt (I know, who could have possibly thought) would extend the cases to get more money out of the city.

Having lawyers "on staff" in all the specialties needed by Hoboken has been addressed and found be totally impractical and would be vastly more expensive.

The City Council minority is again playing Russian Roulette with the gun pointed at the head of Hoboken's taxpayers.

Hobbs, the minority would not only love it if the city wasted a fortune on an internal staff off attorneys, they'd love it if we hired a completely incompetent staff of lawyers so we'd have to spend a fortune on both the internal staff and on external law firms who would be doing all the work. For them, all they care about is screwing things up, driving up the costs and increasing taxes so they can blame the mayor. Bunch of scum, the whole lot of them. And shocked that anyone would believe that pack of liars and cheaters even though they have seen how often they have been exposed as liars & cheats.

Sorry John, you are making conclusions based on no evidence. We've all seen the talking points springing up on legal costs and how Hoboken is overwhelmed with lawsuits as former Corporation Counsel Michael Kates lamented in a meeting.

Take up any issue where you feel bullied with that person who is making you feel bad, not me.

No one is piling on, except for we hope the FBI, which should make a lot of people feel a whole lot worse.

legal fees at city hall and the board of ed are literally out of control--- it's the New Guard's way of distributing graft around the state to their backers. Just follow the money. Thank goodness a super majority is needed to pay these fees else this administration's legal fees would be 3x higher.

I STILL can't get over this summer when the hospital attorney went $600,000 OVER "do not exceed" limits and the zimmer zombies on this site supported and justified the action. It's just a laugh....