Sources say Lane Bajardi has never appeared in an ELEC report for Beth Mason or Tim Occhipinti. He appears in this midnight video for Occhipinti's campaign leaders. http://www.hobokenhorse.com/2010/10/grist-for-mill-midnight-monday-meeting.html
Is he credited in Beth Mason's IRS filings? Does he credit her in his tax forms?
http://www.fbi.gov/news/videos/inside-the-fbis-internet-tip-line

Could you at least try to tweak your wording a bit from the piece you wrote for 411? Or are you intentionally trying to be pathetically obvious as part of your cooperating-witness strategy?

Sources say that someone is listening to the voices in their head again.

Well, you obviously wrote that same horsesh*t on H411.

Sources say you've never appeared on a Mason ELEC form and that the I.R.S. is looking for you.

When Da Horsey can say in this thread "Da Horsey suspects he played a big role in uncovering the Data Theft Ring in City Hall too" as essentially rumor and without any verification you can be darn sure I will reiterate:
"Sources say that Arch Liston was telling people that Dawn Zimmer’s shadow Mayor & husband Stan Grossbard, as well as Parking Director Ian Sacs “are out of control,” and that they’re essentially dooming the current administration."

Sounds like someone hit a nerve. Does prosbus have a very special reason to be upset about the uncovering of the date theft ring?

I'm not at liberty to speak on all the information on how I come to make such a statement but I will note and most people will see this as meaningful that Mr. Liston served with distinction as a police officer.

As most people are aware, a career in law enforcement teaches you to sniff out wrongdoing.

In addition it's a fact that Arch Liston discovered the Russo clan's illicit collecting of taxpayer benefits and brought it out in the open ending the siphon at City Hall.

So those are two specific examples. Now let's have prosbus, Beth Mason's friend who is not paid for friendship name one source.

Go ahead Lane Bajardi, name one valid source in your continued pattern of cancerous character assassination. Or alternatively, you can run back to the safety of the fascist censorship at Hoboken/Mason411 and continue doing your ugly work there.

Loser. Your day is coming. Can't wait.

Please stuff it already. We need a light at 15th street for park safety despite the fact that it will delay your morning commute a whole 30 seconds each way and we definitely need even more stringent parking enforcement. Sacs should have an employee permanently assigned to Washington St. every shift just for the double parkers. He isn't strict enough on you habitual law breakers.

Lane doesn't need sources? True that would be news if he actually did have one.

Dear Mr. Da Horsey- Like you, I am not at liberty to speak on all my information or how I come to acquire such information. I'm sure you understand. But, it is worth reiterating that my sources say that Arch Liston was telling people that Dawn Zimmer’s shadow Mayor & husband Stan Grossbard, as well as Parking Director Ian Sacs “are out of control,” and that they’re essentially dooming the current administration.

That intersection has needed a light for years especially for all the people who block traffic when they try to make a left off of 15th and head up to Weehawken. I am shocked there hasn't been a major accident there already. Way past time they put up a light there.

Red -- there is a light at 15th. that's why we don't need one at 16th. i'm not sure you're familiar with that part of town.

I know the intersection very well. Traffic is constantly a mess there when someone is making a left off that street so they can head northbound. 15th, 16th, don't give a crap what it is called. They need a light there. Try driving through that intersection more often around 6 PM especially when the Lincoln Tunnel is backed up and Willow is a mess and you will see nothing but chaos. We need a light there to restore sanity and to make it possible for people to turn, ride their bikes safely or cross the street.

BTW, why the hell do you car so much about a couple hundred grand to make an intersection safer and not give a rat's ass about the money stolen from this town by the Russo's? Where is your outrage when it comes to that family of crooks, the money they owe us, the assets they hid from law enforcement & the health insurance they for years had even though they were no longer entitled to it? We all get it, you don't really care about the money. You are just upset about the light b/c you hate Zimmer.

Question for anyone that can answer: When is someone going to get fired for not yanking the Russos off the health plan and when is the city going to sue for restitution?

Good one, Eric!

So many little piggies thrown off the taxpayers' teats. Do you smell bacon frying?

Anthony Russo owes that much to the city.

Personally I think the BA shouldn't have to deal w/ stupidity and when faced w/ stupidity, he should make it clear to the stupid people how completely stupid they are acting.

I think I'd prefer the best qualified candidate, no matter where they are from. As for a tie breaker, lets face facts, things are never 'tied'

Looks like Hoboken Questioner is looking for preferential treatment when applying for local "non-sworn" work.

No, if it is a tie b/w a Hoboken resident and a non-resident, the non-resident should always get the job. We need new blood in this town. No more Riccardis!

How has that man kept his job? He was the CFO when the city was spending millions more than it said it was spending in it's budget. Isn't the CFO supposed to keep track of things like that? Shouldn't he know how much money the city has, the city has spent and how that tracks w/ the budget?

Red he's kept his job because civil service is one of the many things that restrict NJ municipalities from acting rationally.

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There are a lot of things that are perfectly sensible and we expect the Mayor and Council could do to improve our City but in fact out dated rules and institutions prevent them from acting.

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Hell if Patrick Riccardi wasn't on the fast track to an orange jumpsuit he'd be suing to get his job back and because of civil service insanity there'd be a halfway decent chance he'd win.

Civil service protections should not protect gross incompetence. That needs to be changed.

Jabber when did they put you in charge of what people could post? I've been busy so maybe I missed it.

Who's David Liebler and what does he have to do with me? Never mind, not interested in fanning flames.

You bring up a good point regarding women politicians and their husbands. It really is a double standard, there doesn't seem to be as much interest in male politician's wives. Both Zimmer and Mason were essentially housewives before they were elected to office, but Zimmer is now earning over 100K plus benefits, after not having a job at all in almost a decade. Grossbard may be enjoying that and guarding it from behind the curtain. Mr Mason has his own successful professional life, and it seems to me he has no desire to live his political ambitions through his wife. I am no Mason lover, but I appreciate his openness and honesty about his role in his wife's political life.

Dumb as toast. Where do you think she got the over $1million she pissed away losing mayoral elections? Who wrote the other half of the checks to Occhipinti? Whose money did you think was in the MasonForCouncil kitty? Someone who was "essentially a housewife?"

i know you are trying your best to show off your deep knowledge, but you are failing at making any credible arguments.

Those are facts dimwit. They contradict your butt-stupid claim that Mason does not participate in his wife's failed political ambitions.

What I gather from your post is that Grossbard went from living off his father's work to now living off his wife's work. Thanks for making that clear. We can now draw our own conclusions.

Only a nasty piece of crap would find it necessary to go there. We can now draw our own conclusions.

Another intelligent response from ThisMeansWar. Insults are easy.

Yes insults are easy. Like reducing a man's life to being a hanger-on. "What I gather from your post is that Grossbard went from living off his father's work to now living off his wife's work." Because you're a nasty piece of crap. I guess hypocrisy is even easier. We can now draw our own conclusions.

Faux Freeholder, I don't believe I made ANY antisemitic rants about Mr. Mayor nor have I made any comment about his occupation (feel free to post evidence to the contrary). However, by the recently posted Campbell deposition, Dawn Zimmer's knowledge of things consists almost entirely of "I don't know" statements ;-) I stand by my original comment that "Arch Liston was telling people that Dawn Zimmer’s shadow Mayor & husband Stan Grossbard, as well as Parking Director Ian Sacs “are out of control,” and that they’re essentially dooming the current administration."

That statement is also in Hobo411. I stand by my original comment that Lane Bajardi has never appeared in an ELEC report for Beth Mason or Tim Occhipinti. He appears in this midnight video for Occhipinti's campaign leaders. http://www.hobokenhorse.com/2010/10/grist-for-mill-midnight-monday-meeting.html
Is he credited in Beth Mason's IRS filings? Does he credit her in his tax forms?
http://www.fbi.gov/news/videos/inside-the-fbis-internet-tip-line

ThisMeansWar- you're turning into a one-trick pony aren't you?

Odd comment since everything the Old Guard has done in the last 18 months has been counter-productive and petty and clearly seen as such, and the current administration has made great strides. But we shall see. I don't see any Old Guard candidate getting more than 25 or 30% of the vote.

Lane Bajardi could be leaving soon as well. He has never appeared in an ELEC report for Beth Mason or Tim Occhipinti. He appears in this midnight video for Occhipinti's campaign leaders. http://www.hobokenhorse.com/2010/10/grist-for-mill-midnight-monday-meeting.html
Is he credited in Beth Mason's IRS filings? Does he credit her in his tax forms?
http://www.fbi.gov/news/videos/inside-the-fbis-internet-tip-line

The Old Guard saved us $5,000,000 in real money by not being "yes" people to the mayor. The mayor has not been able to support a winning city wide candidate in nearly 2 years (at large council, board of ed, freeholder, etc...). I see no evidence to assume this trend will not continue--

I see no evidence that Lane Bajardi is in compliance with election laws. He has never appeared in an ELEC report for Beth Mason or Tim Occhipinti. He appears in this midnight video for Occhipinti's campaign leaders. http://www.hobokenhorse.com/2010/10/grist-for-mill-midnight-monday-meeting.html
Is he credited in Beth Mason's IRS filings? Does he credit her in his tax forms?
http://www.fbi.gov/news/videos/inside-the-fbis-internet-tip-line

The old guard risked costing us tens of millions and only because our Governor realized they were complete morons did that not happen. They didn't save us anything and even after the state stepped up to the plate to try and save the hospital, they continued to try and blow up the whole sale. They are a bunch of corrupt buffoons and anyone who buys into their nonsense is even dumber than they are.

Jersey Journal: Mayor Zimmer cut taxes 10% in Hoboken, best in Hudson County!

Zimmer could be a one term mayor for cutting taxes and saving the hospital and sparing Hoboken bankruptcy.

Obviously this is a problem for the paid and unpaid political operative haters like prosubs/HQ's of the world:

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2012/01/hoboken_leads_way_in_hudson_in.html

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Sorry Redrider, risk is subjective. The night before the council minority voted NO on the original bond, the council majority was screaming the sky was going to fall (on cue from Mr and Mrs. Mayor). What can be said OBJECTIVELY, is that the Russo, Mason, etc...saved the taxpayers $5,000,000.00. Your assessment of risk and its monetary value is immaterial and of little consequence.

What is not subjective is that Lane Bajardi has NEVER appeared in an ELEC report for Beth Mason or Tim Occhipinti. He appears in this midnight video for Occhipinti's campaign leaders. http://www.hobokenhorse.com/2010/10/grist-for-mill-midnight-monday-meeting.html
Is he credited in Beth Mason's IRS filings? Does he credit her in his tax forms?
http://www.fbi.gov/news/videos/inside-the-fbis-internet-tip-line

Oh, the desperation with which the Old Guard bloggers try to spin their trying to close the hospital by disapproving a bond with no plan for alternate funding, and then trying to grab credit when the governor steps in and disallows their irresponsibility by providing the funding. Olympic level grasping at straws. Nice try. But you guys keep raking the administration about a $600 slop factor in a $100 mil budget while disapproving bond refinancing that would save major dollars. Whatever. The Old Guard is such a self-parody at this point, with the talking points so far out in left field and so odoriferous they only let Mr Occhipinti at meetings and prospus/Hoboken Questioner on the internet try to roll them out. No one else will touch them with a ninty-nine and a half foot pole. It's intriguing that they don't need to have clothespins on their noses when extolling this nonsense.

Thank you Perry. I tried to get my husband to make this argument but he was afraid that it was too stupid even for him given that he's been falsely saying taxes have gone up for over a year under his many screennames and he refused to post it. But we can always count on you to say what's needed since you have no qualms about people thinking your an idiot. Thank god we, the anybody but Dawn crew, have you to lead us when a truly moronic argument is needed to combat Zimmer's unfortunate real and documented successes.

Perry,

What I know is that your friends on the City Council Michael Russo, Terry Castellano, Tim Occhipinti led by Beth Mason and her checkbook tried to BANKRUPT Hoboken and sabotage the sale of Hoboken University Medical Center.

And I also know that you know it.

Your desire to change the subject aside, you also know MORTe fought to stop the mayor from saving millions earlier on public safety and most recently wasted an opportunity to save $4 million on an easy refinance of the midtown garage that would also pocket $50,000 for taxpayers.

Those are the people YOU support. A salute to your attempts at deflection.

Best,
Da Horsey, SmartyJones

More on this and Hoboken's tax reduction:

http:hobokenhorse.com

Poor Perry, you can't win for losing. At almost the same time you post this HobokenNow links an article that states,

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"City officials in the Mile Square City chopped property taxes a whopping 10 percent last year, according to an analysis that appears in today's Star-Ledger."

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Perry it's almost as if the Universe is trying to tell you you're wrong.

Dear Mr. Da Horsey-- again, what proof do you have of this supposed attempt to bankrupt the city? Seems like idle speculation and unsubstantiated opinions to me. What I do know is the council minority saved the taxpayers $5,000,000.00. Sorry Russo, Mason, and team do not exhibit the lemming-like quality of the board majority--

The council minority put a gun to the City's head and then pulled the trigger. Thankfully Governor Christie and Mayor Zimmer were able to save the patient.

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The only way you can disagree is if the Council Minority had a secret plan to make the Nurses' Union take less money. Otherwise the Nurses would have stalled the bankruptcy and the Hospital would have failed costing tax payers between 60 to 90 Million dollars.

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You tell'em hubby. The fact is that we had in in our power to destroy the hospital and we chose not to. You brilliantly came up with the idea of making up a story about negotiating a better deal, instead and even though we looked like idiots it was still brilliant. Failing to destroy it is the same as saving it and even Al Sullivan understands that. We save our child every day by not drowning him in the bathtub, and we damn well saved that hospital, too. Anybody who doesn't understand that is a koolaid drinking zimmer zombie!!

Perry if the Hospital had failed how many of the people you know would be accepted there now? Not to mention how much of the 60-90 million would those people be paying to pay off the Hospital Bonds and costs associated with closing it? Poor Perry, it wasn't supposed to be this way was it.

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Perry it's clear you have no comprehension of finance, maybe you can get help from Ed Duroy worse maybe you already have and that's your problem.

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I could try to explain that we sold off a money losing asset that was in essence leveraged to pay off the debt but you wouldn't understand that. So I'll just say I hope you find some solace in your fantasy world. Perhaps you'll have better luck in 2013 with finding your Plan B.

It's pretty funny how some people including Mr. Belfiore keep calling the hospital "an asset" when it kept losing millions annually in double digits right up until it almost saw its doors shut last year.

The biggest insurer and all city employees get reduced rates at the hospital via Blue Cross/Blue Shield.

It was saved by Mayor Zimmer, her majority hospital board and Gov. Chris Christie.
Little too soon to try historical revisionism. Who do you think you are Beth Mason?

My husband wanted to take that municipal finance course that Eric Kurta took so he could cite his credentials when he made really stupid posts about financial matters like the surplus and the hospital sale but he was worried that a college degree might be a pre-req. I hope Perry doesn't have the same problem since that course would do wonders for his credibility when he explains that budget surpluses are signs of fiscal irresponsibility and a hospital $35 million in the red that loses a $million a month is a valuable asset worth more than $52 million.

All those highly educated Koolaid drinkers are making Perry look stupid with their fancy mba's and the like - he needs to counter with a degree of his own. Maybe he can find something on the back of a matchbook or in the internet that doesn't have any silly pre-req's!!

Perry, the hospital lost money since the very first year Hoboken bonded for it. How is that Zimmer's fault? She wasn't even a council member? I fear you've gone off the deep end.

Owl in Perry's world everything was fine until you meddling kids and your talking dog screwed it all up.

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So the Hospital was losing million every year before it was sold to the city. So the Hospital continued to lose millions every year after the City bought it. Owl these are just facts and facts are only opinions based on a verified reality.

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So Owl you keep your opinions and Perry can continue to live in his magical world of mystery where all you need to be King is a Thesarus and a book of idioms.

Hey FAP! Nothing wrong with a good vocabulary! But, admittedly he does over-use "specious".

Anyway, unfortunately, misplaced blame is now his main stock in trade. He doesn't seem up on the latest talking points, or maybe he can't dispense them with a straight face. I guess for some reason he can't make the late-night strategy meetings anymore. Or maybe he was dropped from the insider's e-mail distro list for attempting to split the 5th Ward city council election vote, when it had to have already been made clear to him that Mr Scott Delea was this year's model for the Old Guard council slate. Well I guess it's nice he likes to keep a hand in. It certainly helped avoid a costly runoff election.

I started to reply, but it's not worth getting on this merry-go-round again.

The word you're looking for is "dissent." "Descent" pertains to moving from a higher to a lower level. For example, "The citizens at last turned away from the pathetic spectacle of the once-proud man's descent into political quicksand."

I dare you to find one financial statement that shows the HUMC w/ a $3mm profit. No such statement exists. There was a pie in the sky presentation w/ all sorts of rosy unrealistic projections on how the hospital could become profitable. But that never happened b/c as I said, it was unrealistic.

Now please Perry, leave the complicated financial matters to people who understand them. You aren't one of those people and that has been pointed out to you just about every time you toot your horn on any topic more complicated than tying your shoes.

Red - PB is referring to a budget number that represented operating revenues over expenses, before interest and depreciation. I'm sure you understand the concept. PB doesn't, or just chooses to bloviate anyway.

HUMC met and exceeded the projection. Then again, were it not for non-recurring revenue from the state, even EBITDA would have been in the red. Again, I'm sure you get it, and PB doesn't.

Yes, I know Perry is referring to that completely unrealistic budget that the HUMC never met and was used to justify the city taking over the hospital in the first place. But they never met it, they never could meet it and the probably no matter how long we owned it never would have met it in the future. But if Perry wants to base his entire string of arguments on a pipe dream, not shocked. The man does like to ignore reality.

BTW, Eric, completely agree that it probably isn't worth going through again. Perry seems to remember every piece of misinformation he has said in the past every time these topics come up and he just spits them out again. But he completely forgets every rebuttal he got the last time that completely disproves pretty much everything he posted back them. I believe the man suffers from memory loss.

Eric...

You reminded me of line of dialog.

"And here's where we hop on the merry-go-round of rotating knives. I blame you, and you blame me, and we both end up all cut to shreds."

Perry thank God you found the typo. Your post is so much more accurate now.

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Here's what I wonder. Does Perry really not understand he's wrong and is not capable of understanding the real answer or does he understand he's putting out misleading information and doing it intentionally?

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The needle on my BS meter keeps jumping back and forth between liar and yuts.