Council Approves More Metered Parking
Program will test out meters and new signage on selected streets.
Residents could soon find more metered parking on some streets in the city’s northwest section, but those who have permits won't have to pay.
Meters will be installed between 15th and 16th streets on the east sides of Clinton, Grand, Adams and Jefferson streets, and on both sides of 15th Street between Madison Street and Willow Avenue.
The start date for the pilot program, which as approved by the City Council on Wednesday night, has not yet been determined. It will last at least 180 days, according to Transportation and Parking Director Ian Sacs.
The pilot program will also change the signage on the street, from the familiar green and white signs that read, respectively, “residential permit parking only" and "all others four hours."
The new signs will read “permit parking only, all others pay at meter."
Sacs says the current that language has caused some confusion.
“What we are doing here is we’re testing a possible solution, after a lot of deliberation, and we’ll see how it goes," he said.
While visitors without a temporary permit will have to pay at the meter, residents with parking permits will not need to pay at the meter.
"That's what differentiates from the way we have used meters in the city so far," said Councilman David Mello. He added that if the pilot program is a success, the same policy could be applied to other streets in Hoboken.
Sacs said the meters will still allow for four-hour parking for visitors at the cost of $.25 per 15 minutes. Like the multispace parking meters in other parts of the city, the meters for this program will take coins and credit cards. Sacs said the parking utility is also close to offering a type of debit card for parking.
Councilman Tim Occhipinti, who voted against the program, said he is concerned that more metered parking will deter visitors from coming to Hoboken.
“It’s pretty clear that they know that they get four hours of free parking,” he said. He added that he is concerned about businesses near the streets specified in the program. Pilsener Haus & Biergarten, at 15th and Grand streets, is one business that is now surrounded by free street parking but could be affected.
Visitors can also get a visitor parking permit at City Hall for $5 a day.
“You come to Hoboken because you want to enjoy the atmosphere in Hoboken,” Sacs said.
Councilman Michael Russo said he not only supports the program but would also support metering the entire city.
“I think in the long run, it actually reduces a lot of confusion, it reduces a lot of staffing down at the parking utility,” Russo said. He said it also offers a protection for residents because they can park where they’d like without having to worry about paying a meter.
“I think this is going to move the city forward," he said.
Councilwoman Theresa Castellano said she would not support metering the entire city.
Amy Faucher
7:04 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
I think this is a great idea, and they should put meters for visitors on more residential streets. I'd be interested to know if the visitor can pay for all four hours at once at the meter.
Amanda Staab
7:21 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
As far as I know, you will be able to pay for all four hours at once.
Richard England
3:07 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
Isn't it a New Jersey State law that after two hours of parking at a meter the vehicle must be moved from the spot?
CaptJackd
10:46 am on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
There is no NJ statute that defines parking meter limits--that is done at the municipal level.
Laurie Michelson
7:38 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
What happens after four hours? Can a person add an additional four hours? This is tough on employees of a business who do not have $200 to spend on a permit.
HobokenBiz
9:27 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
Laurie
They want you to use the municipal garage for the day at a rate of $5 which is a good idea for business owners, it takes cars off the street so all our customers have a better chance to park. While the garage is great, many people do not want to walk a paltry few blocks. The real problem on Washington Street is delivery vehicles that take up spots meant for those that want to shop and eat here. Ive seen the HPU on over 15 occasions give drivers a break as long as they go to machine and buy a time ticket. The indian guy is the worst he does it to all the delivery guys, this allows other businesses to cheat the parking situation. Ive told Ian Sachs twice and it still happens so why should i tell him again, I'm just wasting my time. My best advice is "it is what it is". When you open here you have to know what you're dealing with, like the bars. You can't prevent your own success. Bars get popular and with that comes noise and retail becomes successful and people need a place to park.
Hoboken Answer
10:14 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
Municipal garage for $100 a month and the spots are opened up for residents and visitors to come, park and go to stores and SPEND money.
Isn't that the point of a store in Hoboken? You know to get customers to visit.
recallbethmason
8:01 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
It is called park in a garage if you work in hoboken. Extremely annoying seeing people feed their meter....you deserve a ticket if you do that.
Michael Lenz
8:55 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
Parking is to some extent a zero sum game -- that is, one person's gain is generally another's loss. There are exceptions -- the switch to muni-meters DID create a few more spots -- but mostly it is zero-sum.
In this case the trade-off is quite clear. Old rules allowed visitors to park for four hours on half the streets for free. New rules would charge four bucks for the same four hours. This will tend to make more spaces available for residents and visitors willing/able to pay a small sum, often including relatives and contractors working in resident's homes. It will encourage employees to use public transit where available. It will, at the margin, make working or partying in Hoboken just a little less attractive to non-residents and thus make living, parking, or getting a job in Hoboken just a little bit easier for folks who reside here.
Overall, it tilts the scales just a little bit in favor of those who live here and those coming here to interact with them. It tilts the scale just a little bit against those who could go anywhere to get a job or to a neighboring town on a Saturday night.
I think that is a reasonable trade-off. Unless unforeseen problems arise in the test, I'd be in favor of making it city wide.
Mister Whipple
9:37 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
As usual, I agree with Michael Lenz.
CaptJackd
12:30 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
Agree that residential street parking is pretty much a zero-sum game.. but parking as a whole is a bit more complex, because the 'players' may not be informed of all of their options.. e.g., I don't think that visitors, customers (and even employees) are properly informed of their parking garage options.
tonysoares
9:31 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
I agree with this test program and I agree with Mello, Sacs and Russo.
As for the Pilsner House, the were granted a deviation from their 200 plus On-Site parking requirement. It seemed extreme and as one of the partners stated at The Zoning Hearing, "We don't want people drinking then driving" . So the Zoning Board eased that requirement by recording in their Zoning Variance and deed, that they will purchase approx 50 "Park&Dine Vouchers" to use at garages like Park on Park.
Like Williamsburg Brooklyn, Astoria or The Village -all draw similar dining and visitor crowds, they must pay at meters or use garages, lots or walk.
Metered/Pay parking opens up the streets for those who live here.
HobokenBiz
9:34 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
25 cents is too cheap for every 15 minutes. Should be raised to 50 cents or $1 per 15 minutes. It will make people more mindful of the meters and prevent further abuse. I disagree with Tim's thought that meters will scare people away, NYC charges as much as $10 per hour to park on the street and people still complain no where to park in NYC. Business owners and their employees should not be parking in metered spaces either. Delivery vehicles should also be licensed, currently half the drivers at a certain sushi place between 5th and 6th has drivers that are suspended. If Police crack down for a week on delivery drivers not feeding meter, double parked or driving unlicensed and disregarding Stop signs is a good start to get people to realize that if you work here you got to play by the book. Delivery people should use bikes or mopeds, this is done in NYC and its worked for 100 years. Id love to see banning cars for restaurants, they can take a moped.
Redrider765
9:42 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
If the city ever bothered to crack down on all the illegally parked cars on Washington, those drivers would have to switch to bikes or mopeds.
HobokenBiz
9:52 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
Red
You couldn't be more correct. The police get behind a double parked car and turn on their sirens to tell people to move, they've been doing this for 20 years and people still double park, create traffic hazards and the cops still turn on their sirens, which is annoying to both businesses and neighbors. If they for once would get of their ass, write a few tickets it would be a start to positive enforcement and may make a dent. The cops in town are a joke. 7th Street to Newark along Washington is a nightmare, town has done ZERO to fix it. In 20 years they done nothing but add muni meters and the HPU is letting people slide on those. Complete joke!
Redrider765
9:59 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
By Benny Tudino's is the absolute worst. They could write tickets there all day if they wanted to. But of course they don't b/c that is just too much work.
HobokenBiz
10:06 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
It's a mess all over but Benny's is right on the money, most HPU people do not write tickets because they fear retaliation from one of the Drishti's. Most of the HPU employees are from Hoboken, and they don't want problems. Another hot mess to deal with. Ian can you respond to all of this? Tell us how you're going to fix this?
Hobbs
10:16 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
Several things would happen if every car/truck that double is parked on Washington Street was ticketed every day.
The business owners would complain, some will fight it and try to score political points, BUT double parking would stop, Washington Street traffic would flow better, pedestrians and vehicals would be safer and Hoboken would function better overall.
I think the City have given the business owners enough options to try to make things better and now it is time to for them sit down work out the details and then have the City fully enforce the laws.
Redrider765
10:24 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
I don't think the HPU employees ticket double parked cars. It is the cops who never ticket those cars that are double parked on both sides of Washington right by Benny Tudino's pretty much every night of the week and a good part of the day on weekends.
Here is a thought, have a PD supervisor in civies watching what goes on up there. Any cop that drives by while on patrol and ignores the double parked cars gets suspended w/o pay for a week. That will encourage them to get the job done.
HobokenBiz
10:36 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
Hobbs
All of us business owners want that to happen, Ive wanted it to happen for 11 years, none of us will complain, the only ones that will complain are the ones that benefit from it and thats the places that insist on using it for delivery. Furthermore when you double park, you block in the people that actually paid to park, people that patronize our businesses. Id like to see changes,mayor Zimmer and her staffers need to step it up, if they don't you will see Frank Raia posters in every store front on Washington in 2013 or someone else that is not Zimmer. We're all in agreement that she needs to step it up or take a hike.
Hobbs
11:28 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
HobokenBiz.
Frankly I don't see business owners stepping up to the plate on this or any other issues. While the City can and has helped in many ways, the Hoboken business community needs to do more that whine and bluster, it needs to actually work with the Administration and yes even reach into their own pockets to get things done.
That is the way it is done in other succesful communities,
The nearly nonexistent Hoboken Chamber of Commerce who should be looking to nuture and increasing business has IMO and many others become little more than a political pawn of the anti-Administration Old Guard and as such has rendered itself ineffective to do much of anything constructive.
I don't see any other Hoboken business organization that has filled the need, do you ?
HobokenBiz
9:39 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
I applaud the efforts of Ian Sachs but he needs a lot of help. Hiring a small staff, even part time to oversee his agents will make a huge dent. Nearly all of the agents are paid very low and with that you attract a certain person. For $9 an hour you'll get someone who will do $9 worth of work an hour. Every day the HPU are walking down the street on their phones, some of them wear their pants around the lower part of their rear, shirts are untucked, they take breaks every 15 minutes, the indian guy in his 50's cuts delivery drivers a break every chance he can get. The agents on the beat are all slackers and are the reason everything is still a mess. Just hire 2 people to be under cover and watch them and people will work and results will be seen, until then this will be an issue for a long time. Hire someone Ian, I know you're reading this.
HobokenBiz
11:21 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
The bars and restaurants all want another mayor, the other stores and businesses are leaning that way too. Washington Street will be filled with non Zimmer posters in 2013, she has been anti business since she came in and has done very little to increase business. Enough is enough, fix it and keep it level or pack up your bags and go back to taking pictures.
Hoboken1653
11:36 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
What exactly has she done that is anti-business? Aside from the double parking enforcement which you feel should be stepped up
Hobbs
11:37 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
I think this post gives everyone a clear idea as to what is your real agenda.
Thanks for clearing that up. :-)
rtrux
11:38 am on Monday, April 23, 2012
"she has been anti business since she came in and has done very little to increase business."...can you cite some examples of this? i think your assessment sounds a little extreme but i'm willing to hear your evidence. remember, an administration's job is to represent all constituents, not just businesses.
also, as mentioned above, why don't businesses demand some (any?) support from the chamber of commerce?? does the chamber do anything anymore?
p1ywood
12:21 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
The bars and restaurants, while facing many economic struggles like everyone else, have made it clear that they are always going to look for an easier way. Couple this with the fact that many Washington Street landlords and food and bar industry leaders are in bed with the Old Guard and looking for any reason to tear down the mayor, and the rest can be seen playing out here for what it is. Fact remains that the party is over for the "look the other way" largely free ride the bars and restaurants have enjoyed for time immemorial when compared to other areas. Free daily garbage pick-up? Free recycling? Largely unenforced recycling regulations? Matter-of-fact overserving of patrons? You know that is unheard of in 99% of the nation.
This "blame the mayor" mantra is so disingenuous, it's just insulting to any thinking person who isn't getting a taste. Hoboken Biz, we already know who you are voting for: anyone who says go back to bars and restaurants getting over as usual.
As you were.
HobokenBiz
12:24 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
Hoboken1653
Can you name 2 things she has done pro business? If you can I will give you 4 anti's in return
Redrider765
12:26 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
She is very much pro-business when you keep in mind all those Hoboken based businesses depend on Hoboken residents spending their hard earned money in their establishments and she is making sure we have more money in our pockets to spend than if someone less friendly towards the taxpayers had been elected.
p1ywood
12:33 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
We got it. HobokenBiz wants businesses to have a free ride and has a problem with those who think that business should live in a reasonable context as it has rarely been asked to do in the past. I assume the screen name will disappear as fast as it appeared after venting rudely for a few more posts.
HobokenBiz
12:34 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
rtrux
I have heard many ideas through chain emails from local business people that have come to the attention of the administration and have not been addressed or have been left hanging. One idea was to place the booths at the arts and music festival in the middle of Washington Street, rather than on the sidewalk sides. Allowing people to walk down Washington Street and see the shops and restaurants will get them to return in the future, the arts and music festival brings in so many non residents and they can't see the picturesqueness of Hoboken. Other ideas have included various bazaars down near Lackawanna station on weekends to draw people from NYC and around NJ, weekend events with vendors that the will get people walking around more. There was even an idea to bring a visitors booth near city hall but the city wanted the business owners to do all the work and not hire someone to do it. Laurie Michelson is a big part of the women in business, a recent addition to the COC. While some members of the chamber have not taken on the role of leading, others have but you're blaming the chamber as a whole here.
HobokenBiz
12:39 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
plywood
Yes as I was, I hope the thousands that read this thread that do not comment will take notice and realize what is happening to our city. I prefer their consideration for a better Hoboken versus 5 paid political bloggers out here responding to me.
As you were...
Hoboken1653
12:46 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
Biz, I don't know what the city has done that you would consider pro or anti business. Don't follow that angle of the city too closely. That's why I asked. Glad you have some things loaded up though on what she has done wrong in your eyes
At the very least she has not shaken down businesses for bribes like Russo or Cammarano. That should be helpful
Good idea on the arts and music festival. Would be nice to see that set up differently so Washington st stores could be featured.
Hobbs
12:58 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
HobokenBiz,
Again thank you for making it very clear your anti-Administration, Old Guard political agenda for posting here today by repeating their usual misinformation almost work for word.
As we can also like many previous attempts anti-administration posters (or the same one under different screen names) you started out fairly rational and then went out of control to repeat their usual hate rants.
I
Khoboken
2:09 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
Duh, where is your all mighty head of the Hoboken Chamber of Commerce? People who live in glass houses.....
p1ywood
1:10 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
Yes Hobbs, it's the same formula
ThisMeansWar
1:27 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
HobokenBiz, you'll never get anywhere saying people are paid to disagree with you. Either their points are valid or they aren't.
But let's complete that thought. Who pays people to disagree with you? How do you know this? How much are they being paid? Are they being paid with tax dollars?
You put it out there - back it up.
HobokenBiz
2:00 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
Now I am with the old guard lol, thats original. I'm another user name of someone else ROTFLMAO. Is this how you deflect everything? Stores and bars closing at a rapid pace. Owl thank for the 5 pros, but 4 of them favor residents not the business. Hope nothing more is coming off 'your head". Noise complaints are stupid for bars, you can't stop your own success, you get popular and of course people are going to complain and its always the same person who complains, like the pourhouse. He does everything he can to make it right and they still call, they call when he is closed. St Paddy can be redone but nobody want to try, mayor is stuck on wednesday. She can open up corners, there are little safety issues, she can instruct police to crack down on illegal parked cars but they hate her so they won't listen to her. SHe has a few allies, you guys and her council. This will change in 2013, wait and see
Journey
2:43 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
So enabling residents to get around and shop more, does not help businesses. Or are you only interested in out of town customers.
Let me know what business you are with, that does not want to do business with a Hoboken resident, and I would kindly oblige you.
If you are going to use the Old Guard script, what should we suspect? If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...
Tom Troncone
4:09 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
Just to show folks that we're not the least bit kidding about ratcheting down the vitriol on these boards, HobokenBiz has been suspended for the "typical lesbian" comment. That has no place here. It's the third suspension we've had to make in four days.
Hobbs
4:55 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
Good call.Tom. :-)
Is that suspension for his/her IP address or just the screen name ?
Scott M. Siegel
2:02 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
The mayor has also reached out to the Super Bowl committee to give our businesses the biggest payday ion their life. The $5 biz parking previously mentioned now gives you 7 positive's for merchants from Mayor Zimmer.
p1ywood
2:02 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
Thanks This Means War and Journey, but personally I am just going to ignore the troll, who clearly is agenda driven and uninformed at best.
HobokenBiz
2:53 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
agenda? yeah sure dude!
Hobbs
2:18 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
Hoboken Chamber Of Commerce web site lists no events.
HobokenBiz
2:52 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
when you email each other, you are made aware of events. But if you want to help out join yourself?
Hobbs
3:28 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
LOL ! So it's a members onlt secret Chamber of Commerce.
I guess that must really brings the customers running in !
Hoboken1653
4:04 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
I just checked the business directory on the Chamber of Commerce site and it only lists a few businesses. Someone alert Franz Paetzold. A strongly worded letter will need to be written tot he Hoboken Reporter. This will not stand!!!!
Enough
2:21 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
I don't see the major tax deduction the mayor's supporters keep writing about. My taxes are exactly $19 less per quarter than they were 2 years ago. At that point the taxes had been doubled by the state monitor. I know I will be called stupid or something worse by the mafia here, but I call it like I read it.
Redrider765
2:23 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
Well naturally if you can't figure out how reducing the tax levy reduces how much you would be paying in taxes vs. if the levy remained flat, people are going to question your ability to reason.
KenOn10
2:32 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
Enough, you better say nice things about the emperor's new clothes from now on.
Hoboken1653
2:37 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
It's been explained to Enough countless times how the tax bill is broken out. He/She just refuses to be educated or to accept the facts.
KenOn10
2:28 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
Biz, what about the Zimmer administration's new food truck rules? The only obvious beneficiaries are brick-and-mortar businesses.
Hoboken Answer
2:43 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
The obvious beneficiaries are all the businesses with an updated 21st century handling large trucks delivering a new service. There's something done here that you may find objectionable; it's called a balance.
Established Hoboken businesses pay enormous overhead to operate. They should not have to compete for customers with a competing business parked outside their door.
If you think Old Guard mayoral wannabes Ruben Ramos or Frank Raia will institute better policy, you are by all means free to support them for mayor. Those emperor's will certainly be wearing clothes - new ones - courtesy of the Hoboken taxpayer. Ramos' mom certainly will. She had a patronage job to hang out and collect a check for nothing courtesy of the Hoboken taxpayers.
Bet you're good with that too.
HobokenBiz
2:55 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
I disagreed with that one. The trucks would be beneficial but a few people had to make a scene.
KenOn10
3:07 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
here i make a point about how the Zimmer administration SUPPORTED the local businesses at the expense of citizens (who have fewer dining choices) and you somehow think i'm an old guard stooge? Answer, you might want to consult a doctor about your wildly jerking knee.
I will likely vote to re-elect Zimmer as her administration has done a number of good things. But, meaningful tax relief is not one of them.
Hoboken Answer
3:51 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
Don't agree with the idea of dining choices being limited by City Hall. Silly.
The mayor's being undermined by the usual suspects on taxes. What she's been able to do in lowering spending is clearly on the record and she's lowered taxes and cut spending significantly.
The $4.5 million flushed down the toilet because four people on the City Council feel it's more important to harm the mayor and Hoboken than do the basic, decent thing.
Take a guess where this year's tax cut went? Down the toilet courtesy of the Old Guard's Mike Russo, Beth Mason, Tim Occhipinti and Terry Castellano.
They did it intentionally for no reason other than spite. That was their consultation prize for failing on their plan to kill the hospital sale.
Scott M. Siegel
2:32 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
1) Tax cut. Overall the muni levy is down over 18% since Mayor Zimmer took office. Results are uneven due to $3.5-4 a year in tax appeals.
2) Food trucks: Ordinance was designed to protect our brick and mortar stores, so it is valid.
Enough
9:52 am on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Thank you, Scott Siegel. You have now confirmed for me that the only people who have seen a significant tax reduction are those who have filed for tax appeals. I would not call that just "uneven," I would call it misleading and unfair to the average taxpayer.
Paul Mayerowitz
2:48 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
And how will this affect us grandparents who frequently come to Hoboken to babysit for the day?
Journey
2:55 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
When my paraents come to see our little one, I get them a visitor parking pass. I keep a few in the odd-n-drawer and they just go in, get the hang tag, scratch off the date, and done.
Hoboken Answer
2:57 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
Residents are going to be able to order $5 visitor permits online shortly. That plan is being rolled out and should go live soon based on comments by Director Sacs at the last City Council meeting.
That permit will not be limited to 4 hours.
p1ywood
3:30 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
To Mr Mayerowitz: have the person you are visiting get you scratch-off visitor permits at 94 Washington Street in the basement. The customer windows are open until 9PM. Anyone with a valid driver's license with a Hoboken address can get up to seven scratch off hang tags at a time, they are $5 each and good for the entire day. They can return to the window in a few days and get another seven if you like. Or, of course, park in a garage, or stay less than four hours. It's really not that convoluted once you understand the rules and the ins and outs. As well, there is an online process in the works too.
Scott M. Siegel
3:39 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
Your son/daughter can buy you a visitor pass for $5.
Paul Mayerowitz
4:29 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
Been using them with no problem. I just wanted to make sure that this new approach to resolving the parking issue does not forget us. thanks
KenOn10
4:55 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
The scratch-offs are handy and reasonably priced. I'd like to see them explicitly state that they are valid till 8 am (or whatever) the next morning. An HPU clerk told me our overnight guests "probably wouldn't get a ticket", but that isn't very reassuring.
CaptJackd
5:25 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012
Second to KenOn10's recommendation.
Redrider765
10:46 am on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Bring it up at a CC meeting. Makes sense that the scratch of permits should expire at a reasonable hour in the morning instead of the middle of the night. I suspect if you bring it up, you can get the CC to consider changing that and making it the law.
CaptJackd
12:39 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
@HobokenOwl--that approach must require a good deal of faith and trust (or something).. what is the penalty? a ticket or a boot or a tow?
Journey
1:08 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
It has never been clear to me when the scratch off hang tags would need to be replaced.
Normally when my family visits they grab one in the evening, then in the late morning we pile in the car and do something fun. We have never stress over replacing the hang tag until the evening, and have yet to get a ticket. We got one once but that was for street cleaning or being on the resident side of the street.
rtrux
9:52 am on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
am i still allowed to post here? two comments from last night aren't here, hmm...
Hobbs
11:00 am on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Obviously you can ;-)
I think when HobokenBiz went out of control and got suspended your posts may have been attached.
Scott M. Siegel
10:04 am on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Enough the mayor and council cannot do anything with individual taxpayers under any circumstance. Al the can do is lower the overall levy which they have done for 4 consecutive time frames. They have also completed the reval process which is now in the state's hands. Hopefully that will help your particular tax situation. If not it's just the way the cards are dealt.
Hoboken1653
10:46 am on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
What is the next step for the Reval? When you say the city has completed the process, what do you mean?
HobokenReformer
3:38 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Scott, what exactly do you mean with "they completed the reval process"? To my knowledge, nobody re-assessed the building I live in. Also, I remember from a discussion with the Mayor a few months ago that the reval hasn't even really started yet since some state approval has not been granted yet.
Scott M. Siegel
12:39 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
The state needs to review and approve it. I have no idea how long that will take.
Scott M. Siegel
5:14 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
BA Arch Liston was asked about the progress of the reval. He stated that Hoboken had completed it and forwarded it to the state for review and approval. Not every unit is surveyed. Like units are grandfathered in.
Scott M. Siegel
5:17 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012
It came up during a budget hearing.
Jabberwock
11:46 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
If I could wager a guess here, I think the process of re-mapping the town might be completed. That is phase 1. The second phase would be to higher a firm to "do" the reval. This would come before the council in a resolution, and we would ALL remember seeing that. It hasn't happened yet. The 3rd phase is for the firm that is hired to assess the properties in town. I believe that it is true that not every property will be surveyed/re-assessed, but if the city wants the reval done right, they will insist that a certain percentage are directly inspected to protect themselves from the packed city hall chambers during election season with citizen comments about how come the reval says they have a garage, central air, and other upgrades that raised the value of their property (and their taxes.) That process takes months and probably won't be completed until after the election. (just a guess.)
DarylJ
1:12 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
dumb idea, more metered spots mean less residential spots and while residents can park in these meters with permits what happens on fri sat nights when people come to town and park in these, where am i going to park now?
CaptJackd
1:48 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012
It's just on the 4-hour visitor side; bringing the price in line with washington st is a plus (hopefully results in fewer visitors hunting for parking in the residential area as their first choice)..
green
10:36 am on Thursday, April 26, 2012
This will remove a lot of confusion with which side of the street visitors can park on. They should expand this program to the areas surrounding the hospital, as well.
My question, though, is that if someone parks in one of these spaces without putting money in the meter, or their meter expires, do they get a boot, or an expired meter ticket? The expired meter ticket might be cheaper than just paying for a garage so some visitors might opt for that.