Say, FAP, is it possible to link this prosecution to anti-semitism somehow? Or - does it promote global warming? Wouldn't people have to drive to a trial and thus produce extra carbon that wouldn't happen otherwise? And isn't kind of anti-traditional, given the election 'traditions' of Hoboken? What's wrong with having traditions? Isn't that really what Christmas is - a set of traditions? So couldn't we say that this whole case comes down to a bunch of anti-semites trying to stop Santa through global warming? Work with me on this. I already borrowed an easel.

Thank you "shep" for defending the residence of "The Hoboken Housing Authority" . and Yes Mr Lenz should apologize to all of us. That is why He wasn't voted in cause He is a two faced lier. The last time He ran for The ward He was telling the newcomers that He was going to do His best to get us out of our homes. We are intellegent people and know what is best for our community.

Concerned the same eviction rumor was spread about Mayor Zimmer when she ran for the 4th Ward Council Seat. It was false then and I suspect it was false with Mr.Lenz. The people who buy votes likely know the price per vote is cheaper if they scare people first. They know they're lying but what's a lie compared to felony vote buying fraud?

Also I think Shep is quoting Tim's campaign and comparing Tim's opinion that these charges are "bogus" with the actions of the board of elections, who investigated on their own, and found the issue serious enough to refer to the Prosecutor’s office for criminal proceedings.

As Tim Occhipinti ran partialy on the honor of his family name I would expect him to be eager to see this matter fully investigated and any guilty people arrested..

I don't think there's an error. Maybe Patch decided the 1,000 people who are part of Corner Cars outweighs the 10 people who care about this election. Ever think about that?

I love Corner Cars , so much that I have a Corner Car Card:) However the possibility of a criminal operation to buy votes and defraud the electorate is more troubling than Mike Russo, who has tax payer subsidized parking, not getting that Corner Cars helps people be able to live in Hoboken without a car of their own and the associated parking space it would need.

You need to get your information from more reputable and accurate sources Hobbs. I was there, but I was in no way "reprimanded" for making "personal attacks."

I informed the board of improper activities by poll workers who were working as agents for a candidate's campaign. The board requested the information be put in writing because two of the individuals involved may be considered employees of the Board of Elections (as annual poll workers) and that makes it a personnel issue.

There was no reprimand. There were no personal attacks. The board was appropriately protecting itself by asking for me to provide information about this matter in writing, and I respected that request.

Lane I'm glad you're speaking up here. As a member of Tim's team and someone who spent quite a bit of time in his headquarters can you tell us if you will be cooperating with the County Prosecutor's criminal investigation. I understand anything you may have already told them is confidential and can't be shared witht he public.
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I don't mean to imply that you personaly did anything wrong but as someone who was part of the campaign and spent quite a bit of time in Tim's headquaters you might have seen or heard something that in retrospect could help with prosecutions.
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I've challenged on a number of elections and poll workers speakign too quietly or not promptly calling out names is common, I saw it in 4-4 last election day infact. I think poll workers need to be better taught how to run the polls. Most concerning and something I've enver seen before is a challenger going into the voting booth to "help" a person vote. That challenger's name is Sandra Ramos, mother of Assemblyman and Occhipini supporter Ruben Ramos.
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Lane hopefully with your help people who criminaly bought votes will be brought to justice.

'Concerned' the problem is that someone told you that someone told them that Mike Lenz said something. You didn't hear Lenz say it nor did the person who told you and if you go back far enough you may find the person who started the rumor had incentive to lie. Just as they lied about Dawn Zimmer and more recently about Patricia Waiters getting a job. If someone is lying to you about one thing you should be worried they're lying about other things.

My point is that anyone lying or buying votes does not have the interests of the HHA residents at heart. They're trying to scare the residents with lies so that they don't trust anyone but the people lying to them. Once the liars lose influence they lose money. Think about it, if someone is buying a vote for 40 dollars don't you think they're making much much more than 40 dollars to do it?

If you wonder why the 4th ward doesn't have more parks or a better community center it's because the people who have had power know they can break any promise they make and come election time they can scare residents with lies and buy others off with money and still get re-elected.

If the people who buy votes for 40 bucks a piece are stopped then those who run for office will have to deliver on their promises or they won't get re-elected. If that happens you'll see more parks, better community centers and other improvements.

I agree that not everyone who wore Tim's tees were paid but soon (if Tim's ELEC report is accurate) we'll know how many were paid. I was out on the street for Mike and met 3 individuals who were volunteering. I met and saw dozens that were paid. I never met anyone who was not a volunteer for Mike. It's not paying for workers that bothers me. It does bother me when those same workers will have also filled out a VBM and voted for Tim and when that numbers in the potential hundreds of names especially when it's a Ward race (vs. a city wide race) and each was within a 5 minute walk to their polling place.

I hope you get a pool and a community center as was promised to you. For all of the support you have given them over the past 30 years- you deserve so much more than they are giving you. Push them- make them give you what you deserve. They can't get elected without your support.

The NJDC took the bait hook, line and sinker and their lack of diligence is coming back to haunt them; the title of the hit piece they blindly accepted was slightly altered today to include a "correction" in the title.... no longer condemning Pincus but "her actions".... how long before there's a full retraction?