Roman - my sources tell me you were almost arrested Wednesday at the City Council meeting. By your own admission: "When MSV commented among a brouhaha adding "congratulations for closing the hospital" Councilman Russo started calling out for an officer repeatedly to come and get Da Horsey. Meanwhile people are calling out all over the room." I hear it was a little more then that. I heard a policeman was specifically ordered to stand next to you and that Councilman Bhalla himself called you out for disorderly conduct. Cautionary tale to everyone - Roman runs a hate blog site that does nothing more then smear innocent people. He is paid by Stan Grossbard - Zimmer's husband to spew his hatred and lies. There is 1 blogger on his site who takes multiple screen names and pretends to have conversations with himself. Sad.

The closest anyone has gotten to be arrested at a public meeting was Lane Bajardi at a school board meeting
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Russo can pull any tantrum he likes but he has no authority to direct any public safety officer. That authority rests solely with the council president.

Lane Bajardi did not attend the City Council meeting. No purple pillow was present and Beth Mason sat on wood no pillow.

The only hate blog in Hoboken is Mason's politically directed Hoboken411 which runs with iron fisted fascist control and Beth Mason likes it like that.

Mile Square View supports free speech and has had no problem with Beth Mason's husband posting on the site. In the Hoboken411 world, that freedom is called hate.

As for your other false claim, we shall see where it goes. That's your problem. Maybe you'd like to add it to your other problems.

I like Christie. Only if he would already unleash his buldogs (AG) to arrest some of this crooks! Too bad the taxpayers are such cowards: all it would take to get rid of the bad apples and high taxes it would be to take the pitchforks and go over at the council meetings. Every time! Get the 3 idiots running for their life (castellano, mason & occhi). But again, too many people do not care where their money goes (in the pockets of Hoboken's crooks).
BTW, no one cares how much money HoB steals away either. Do they still have the JC students stealing away our tax money? I bet they do. Mr Gold is there to ensure it's all a 'smooth' stealing process.
Set a date and see what happens!

I sincerely hope that this little mess has encouraged Christie to light a fire under the AG's ass to make some progress that little investigation. Also hope he starts calling the Feds and asks them what the hell is taking so long w/ their investigations.

@2ndWardAl - hey Finboy the people love Greg. On the night of the victory taking the City Council back from the Old Guard, Lincoln got as loud cheers as anyone. That would of course not count your coun$ess who pays you to chime in here but really do you get paid by the vulgarity?

Sounding kinda bitter. What's a matter the little meeting in Hoboken didn't work out as planned. Yeah we know, the Governor just messed it all up. LOL

Greg will be back. Perhaps a lot sooner than you think. Unexpectedly sooner.

@2ndWardAI

Usually when a person (such as yourself) resorts to more name-calling (4) than facts (2), it usually means they are on the losing end of the argument.

Your facts:
1) I lost an election
2) My opponent was caught on FBI tapes

Not very strong facts. I didn't realize that if I lost the election I was suposed to give up caring for my town and it's financial health. If anything, the converse is true.

Now, you may think I'm a "jackass", "lowlife", and "scumbag". Those are matters of opinion, though I know that you've never met me and really know nothing about me. But you are willing to make broad generalizations about me based on your political leanings and assumed payments.

However, the "liar" charge is one you cannot prove or defend. I challenge you to do so.

Lincoln - I respect your recent run for office. I think you are a good man and I hope we can find a good spot for you somewhere in our municipal government. But I would urge you to dig a bit deeper on this one...Did Zimmer throw the Council a huge head fake? Did she know all along that she had $ 5mllion comming from Christie? What is really going on here?

@HobokenQuestioner

Thanks.

From my own perspective, that being someone with no inside knowledge of what the Hospital Board or the Mayor have been planning, I really don't think Zimmer is "throwing a head fake". One of the things I admire about the Mayor is that she isn't necessarily the most politically savvy person. What people don't seem to understand is that she doesn't (to the best of my knowledge) usually have a political motivation for most of the things she does. She just tries to do her best for the city, plain and simple. That might be confounding to those who have the perspective of "what can I do to get mine?"

I think that what is really going on is the people who have been in charge and running the show (Russo, Mason, et al) are losing their tenuous grip. They didn't have control of the hospital sale process, so they did everything they can to sabotage it. They cry "transparency", when what they really want to is to select the bidder they can squeeze for kickbacks and favors. They didn't want to trust the Hospital Board with the vetting process of the bidders, nor the final selection.

The problem the Mayor has is that the Hospital was hemorrhaging money faster than anyone realized, and it needs to file for debt protection (bankruptcy) in order to make it to the sale to Holdco. That gave Beth Mason and her mailer team another opportunity to sabotage things at the expense of the taxpayer. Now in order to settle the $30+ million in debts payable, Holdco was to provide $5 million and the City the same, with the unions agreeing.

But Russo, Mason, Castellano and Occhipinti voted to not provide the bonding to settle, essentially killing the deal. The ramifications of that would have been that the City would then be responsible for the $52 million in bonding AND the full amount of debts payable ($30+ M) AND throw in the costs of extended litigation. That would have thrown our town into a severe financial crisis.

Did Dawn Zimmer know the Governor would bail us out? I highly doubt it, but I can’t say for certain. When I talked with someone on Monday more familiar with the situation, they were concerned about the outcome of the vote on Wednesday.

That’s how I see things, anyway.

Like I said Lincoln - I like you. You are a good man and I respect your perspective. I also like how you come out and tell the people what you think without hiding behind a fake screen name which even I myself am guilty of doing. If your merry band of Reformers was limted to people such as yourself and Seagul then I think I could really like you guys even more...but unfortunately some really bad apples are sitting in your goup...they are the ones who have to go...and what is even more unfortunatey is that Zimmer is financing them.

See what happens, Greg Lincoln tries to be polite and give his perspective and after one paid operative attacks, the other minion then chimes in and uses it to attack others.

Lame! Get thee to a Mason411unery!

MSV can confirm from one industry colleague the mayor was ecstatic yesterday with the State's entering the scene to aid the hospital. While the Mason minions will try to craft a lie to say it was all planned, that's just more Lame spin doctoring.

No one knew and it's blow a hole in the Mason Russo hydra. Look out it's going down. Waiting below is Club Fed.

Poor Finboy. You-all were hoping to spin Zimmer as weak. It looks your your people are the weak ones- humiliated state-wide with these words:

"It is completely unacceptable that the city council placed local politics ahead of the 1300 employees at the Hoboken University Medical Center and the people in the community who rely on the critical services provided by this hospital. "

Your sugar mama and her buddies couldn't get Hoboken a dime of help... not that they wanted it. Probably had some dirty deal going with another 'bidder'... you all look like jerks. Which explains your tantrum here.

Well, it won't be long now. Has the FBI interviewed you yet, Finboy? They will. With the people you work for.

can't decide if you're a jackass or just a crybaby. either way, you just got SLAMMED.

Yeah yeah, that's what's important here, political lables. You have no idea what you're talking about. A Tea Bagger would have let it close, calling it socialist. Instead, she, a DEMOCRAT Mayor, managed to get help for her constituents from a REPUBLICAN Governor, not just help but he went out of his way to do it. Who cares where the money comes from stupid, the job got done.

You're an idiot, 2ndWardAl! We needed the money, the Council of NO said "No" and the Governor stepped up to the plate. The Mayor is in no way, shape or form a tea party republican. She's a realist trying to do her job, despite the stupid, spiteful shenanigans of the Council of NO. By your use of silly labels, Al, you lose any credibility you may have had.

Eric, that's the problem, too many people "don't care where the money comes from." Allow me to educate you. The money comes from us, the taxpayers. The Governor does not have a potful of his own money; it used to be ours until we turned it over to the State.

Thanks Madison, you really think I don't know where the money comes from? REALLY? That wasn't the point, so wake up.

Ohh..trust me 2ndWardAl..that nice little photo above is getting saved.....

you are correct 2ndWardAl...there is going to be much more to come on this. No way the governor just parts with $5 million that quickly...Zimmer and Christie had a deal all along. ANd like I said what is so sad is that Zimmer grandstanded in front of the City COuncil knowing she had what she needed from the State all along.

Wow Claire - quite an omission!!! Every other media outlet has included that paragraph in their reporting. You seem to be the ONLY reporter who left it out. I'm sure you had some valid neutral reason for this editorial decision. Care to share it with your readers so we can understand your thinking?

All we need to know is that the Governor is going to wire in $5 million; the rest is political window dressing.

I remember Gov. Christy being in Hoboken that time...I think he was at an invitation only event at Hoboken Catholic criticizing teacher unions, pushing for charter schools and reducing state funding while local protesters were across the street trying to convince the administration not to put the city garage 40 feet from a school. A day or two later I think the Governor took away the funding for the Connor's School rehabilitation project.

Passkey didn't we already dismiss this Mason canard earlier. You guys keep telling us $5.5 million to possibly save the hospital is not better than seeing the hospital go down in flames costing the city more than 10 times as much.

You can't cut it as you do. The Beth Russo hydra is united in this. So all four of them are responsible for putting Hoboken and the hospital at risk. But they are perfectly fine with it. The question is is the unions are too. Notice with the money on the table there is no deal.

From a strict technical standpoint you are correct. Beth, Russo, Tim and Castellano saved the town $5 million. This is because the State will now pick up that $5 million tab. What is interesting is whether Zimmer knew this would happen all along but nonethelss grandstanded in front of the Council knowing they would not vote her way so as to try to set them up - very dirty move.

Simply put - I smell set up.

Nice try with the smokescreen, Questioner. You and Ms Mason will remain on the political scrapheap.

So, it's a bad idea for Zimmer to "throw $5 million into this sinkhole" but Christie deserves a big thank you for "throw(ing) $5 million into this sinkhole".

Got it.

FAP, has the hospital been saved? I missed that headline. It looks as though a major piece of the puzzle is in the hands of the unions. Let's see whether the union hierarchy cares enough about its membership to do a deal so that at least 75% of them save their jobs. Or whether the Democratic masterminds tell the union to block the deal as a way to block Christie's power play in Hudson County.

How utterly foolish. The facts contradict your assertion. Selling the hospital to a viable bidder removes it from the taxpayers forever.

Are you paying attention to reality? Well get some.

With luck? Really it's luck to avoid shutting down the hospital now? No, you don't risk $70-75 million when a mere $5 million bonded out over years will protect you from such a downfall.

Unless of course, you intended for the downfall to begin with. You guys are all outing yourself repeating that party line. But it's transparent and you'll need new screen names after this one is over.

Well Smarty, if your goal is to destroy Zimmer b/c you hate her, that is exactly what you do and then you blame her for the massive tax hike required to pay off the bonds. People like Ken would complain either way. They are either not smart enough to understand the other option is worse or they just don't care. In Ken's part I think it is the former. For most of the others I think it is the latter.

KenOn10, it is ridiculous to assign any credit to the obstructionist Old Guard Clan for their shameful performance voting down the bond without any plan on Wednesday night. That's like saying a drunk driver is a hero because by dumb luck he happened to miss the baby carriage someone stepped up and pushed out of the way as the drunk driver intentionally swerved off the road.

Yes! We should stop paying any of our bills or maintaining any of our infrastructure. Eventually things will get so bad that the state will come in and bail us out. That Russo and Mason are so smart. Heck if they get in power they can manage our town so incompetently that we might get federal help!

Ken - what probably happend was that Zimmer knew all along she had CHristie's $5 million support. We are looking into that one right now...more to come.

"Questioner" will find a Mason angle on it yet!

horse, it's a "mere $5 million" today, but the creditors have not agreed. who is to say they will? a rough estimate of the cost to taxpayers has been a few years interest on $52 million in bonds, $2 million in debts lost due to the bankruptcy, that "mere $5 million"... plus god knows what else. we need the cord cut ASAP, with few if any further concessions.

I point out (with no comment on their intent) that the "no" vote meant municipal $$$ was saved.... and once again I've "outed" myself as an operative of the mason/russo cabal. Very logical, if you consume as many paint chips as redrider.

Ken - you don't get it. Absent the state stepping in like that, a no vote would have certainly cost municipal taxpayers $52mm. There was absolutely no assurance voting no would save us anything and every indication it would have cost 10x more. Your position is completely illogical. Mason, Russo & the gang did a very reckless and irresponsible thing and it is sheer luck it didn't blow up in our faces. They get no credit for being lucky or because our Governor isn't as stupid, reckless and irresponsible as they are.

red, as usual, you completely miss the point of my post. it is not MY position, but surely will be Masons. the net result is a $5M savings for Hoboken. which is good, whatever their intent, be it reckless, stupid, evil, spiteful, or whatever. i'll leave that for you true believers to debate.

you can call it "lucky" that the governor stepped in to prop up the sale, but i do not think so. he stepped in very quickly.

Mr Russo suggested an alternate plan at great length and in loud pear-shaped tones. Corporate council and Mr Bhalla quickly extrapolated on said plan's lack of viability. Mr Russo's remarks also indicated that he was upset with the Mayors handling of the whole process and as such was not going to be of any help with the bond for that reason. Clearly, by the time it came to a vote, it was understood by all that the bond proposed was indeed the best viable option to give the city an even chance of keeping the negotiations alive. In a word, the Old Guard minority was vindictive and derelict in their duty. Our Governor saw the folly of this recklessness of the minority and stepped in to correct that, accurately labeling it at partisan politics by the Old Guard run amok.

I can see shadowy figures wringing hands and pacing around saying "there's got to be an angle!!!".

If Mr Russo and Ms Mason could for a nanosecond do anything not politically motivated, none of this would have happened.

I wonder where all of this closeness with Republicans is going to land Ravi Bhalla the Grifter. I don't see him in that picture with Christie..instead they sent that turn coat Cunningham. Could it be that Ravi is getting nervous about his political future...We all know he is gone in 2 years. So does he have a back up plan? Is Booker the back up plan? You see ladies and gents...Ravi has a nice and close relationship with Booker...Ravi rips all sorts of tasty service contracts from the City of Newark in exchange for contributions and other forms of corrupt back scratching. But I don't think Booker is going to like all this Christie friendliness....Hmmm...let's see how this one pans out...is this the beginning of a rift between dear Bhalla and Zimmer?

What a load of crap! Obviously, Zimmer works with people, Christie kicked in $5mm.
Try another tactic.

Aside from the lack of truth here (in other words Zimmer does work with people), your assertion that the council members are the mayor's peers is laughable. The city selected Dawn to be mayor. We selected her after vomiting up Beth Mason multiple times. More than that, the mayor is the EXECUTIVE branch. The council is supposed to be the legislative branch, but that only happens when we don't need a super majority. The council minority are not only derelict in their duties, they're downright treacherous to this city and the laws they've been sworn to uphold. To call them the mayor's peers is, indeed, laughable.

I'll let you know when you can talk to me Horsey...until then STFU.

Effective leadership means dealing with those who seek to tip the applecart for the sake of political gain on a level playing field. That was done here. The irresponsibility and recklessness of the Old Guard was apparent the minute they had a council majority, and the minute they had input on the hospital decision making process. Mr Russo was given his say, and it was clear he had no viable plan other than to attempt to "tell off" the mayor, and then act and vote irresponsibly if anything other than his political agenda was considered.

HQ do you need a nap? You seem cranky. Is everything okay there big guy?

Mr. Russo was given his say? Are you really serious about that? He was told in the 11th hour to vote for a measure the mayor already knew we did not need. She knew we did not need it because she had already gotten a committment from Christie. You really think the Governor just forked over 5 million without a longer drawn out process? Zimmer knew she had the money and she grandstanded for the worst reason of all...to play politics with the Hospital

@HQ

You keep saying that the bond wasn't needed because Zimmer had somehow orchestrated a Christie agreement to kick in the $5M. Can you offer proof of such thing?

If not, your claims of Zimmer grandstanding are completely false, and your tolerance of Russo, Mason, etc. taking our town to the brink of financial ruin is very suspect.

Please support your claims with facts, if you have them.

Nice try, H Questioner. Stop pretending though. Mr Russo had plenty of notice of what the voting was for, even though he and Ms Mason are famous for coming to meetings unprepared. Your conspiracy spin is very cute though, Lane. Sorry corruption had such a hard day.

You are talking to yourself. Literally. People are just styming you and your job for the counte$$ with facts.

Why don't you go back and do the old gig at Hoboken411? Is there no joy in ghostwriting there anymore?

You'll be talking again. But the Feds only talk to you because it's their job.
Until they pick you up, you can read up on your friends at russocorruption.com

Let me see if i follow your logic, So, the state is great and deserves recognition for its interest to have a viable hospital and emergency facility situated between the Lincoln and Holland Tunnels and centered in the state's major public transportation hub but ZImmer, who wanted todo the same thing, is crucified.

Why is it that the state is congratulated for supporting a deal which YOU believe has "No guarantees, no transparency, 2 members of the council majority with serious reservations, a request from a state senator for an investigation into the deal earlier in the week, a lack of support from the hospital's two unions, an expose in the Star Ledger"?

You guys are a joke.

I did not crucify anyone nor do I want to. I was trying to synthesize the critiques that were reported in recent PATCH and NJ.COM stories (not blog replies, but news stories) and present a plausible explanation/rationale/excuse (take your choice) why some people may have had some reservations concerning Wednesday's vote. Reasonable people can disagree. I don't believe there was necessarily a need for character attacks on people who disagreed with the bond vote-- there seems to have been legitimate questions that some people may have had at the time.

But neither you or the minority block on the CC are reasonable so what's your point?

And yet, you can't understand why anyone would have reservations employing a 144k a year employee, while he lived and worked in TX, full time.

What a hypocrite!

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No one said the "state was great" just that it was good that the state helped out. No one was figuratively crucified and no character attacks were made. The administration is certainly congratulated on being able to secure the funding via the state. It is regrettable that there were anti-union statements made in the public announcement and that the state took a partisan position in the internal dynamics of the City Council. But-- nothing very harmful or surprising. Kudos to the minority who saved the city taxpayers $5 million and kudos to the administration for going to the state for the money. I think it was a win-win.

Ha, is that the party line now? It was a win win? How is having the council minority being completely derelict in their duty in any way a win? More like Zimmer fixed a mess THEY CREATED by going to the state to find the money. Now let's hope it is enough money or we are back to square one.

But no way in hell Mason & her crew should be given any credit on abandoning their fiduciary duty to the citizens of this city. And if and when the hospital does get sold, you should thank Zimmer for not only selling but also for making sure that we didn't pay for the foolishness and vindictiveness of Mason & Russo.

That's like winning the lottery and expecting people to congratulate you on how sucessful you are.

The council minority's goal was to close the Hospital, they fail and you expect them to get congratulations because someone else got the money they refused to provide to get the deal done?

The more I read Hoboken local politics threads, the more I understand how a city could get so screwed up in the first place. Well, that and all the bribing, election fraud and general urban redneck asshattery displayed by the Russo fanbois..

A lovely low key piece of inaccurate (and worse) from Passkey. Name the 2 members of the council majority with "serious reservations." (MSV encaspulated their remarks and that is a flat out fabrication.)

Yes, State Senator Weinberg is against Holdco, that isn't exactly news, the Star Ledger had trouble with the story and its reporter took "sources" re: the unions information to heart and posted it in a story. He soon found out he was wrong and MSV told him that personally Wednesday night at the City Council meeting. He spend the next 20 minutes on the phone in front of City Hall trying to claw his way out of the errors.

There was no rational reason to not leave open the possibility of a $5.5 bond ordinance. They could have passed it on first reading and seen how things went. Instead they choose to destroy what they could control: a lifeline to the hospital's sale.

At least you can end your deceptive post with some classy congratulations. I give you a ton of credit for separating yourself from these other people for that alone.

HQ is in love w/ people like Russo. I am in love with sites like Russocorruption dot com that show us the true colors of the Russo clan.

Eric - with all due respect, at the national level there are at least some legitimate differences of opinion on fundamental issues that seem to be holding things up. Here the friction b/w the factions has more to do about corruption and a desire to see Zimmer fail so people like Russo & Mason can get back in power and "get what's theirs".

Eric,

Awesome smack down of that nasty, blood-engorged tick, HQ a.k.a. Mason's Pet Poodle, better known in law enforcement circles as an FBI 'person of interest'. It is fascinating how the gang-that-can't-shoot-straight has underestimated our mayor at every turn. She's done an excellent job; now using her influence with NJ's Chief Executive to bail out the irresponsible behavior of Mason-Russo-Timmy- Castellano to SAVE our hospital and taxpayers and bond rating and 1,200 jobs and City services and City jobs... the list goes on. Yes, these ninnies fall into the trap of their own over-confidence, over-estimation of their political skills, underestimation of Zimmer's EVERY TIME.

I'll bet Beth Mason broke every dish in her house yesterday.

Why, thank you GA, I take that as big compliment coming from the Queen of hysterical and biting sarcasm.

A Republican would have closed the hospital and sold the land to a developer the day they were elected. A Republican would have laid off half the city workforce the day the fiscal administrator left just to cut taxes. A Republican would have outsourced almost every essential service to a private company and cut programs just to bring down spending. She is no Republican. She is something most of them have never seen in a mayor's office, an honest Democrat. They are a rare breed her in Hudson County but pretty common in other parts of the country.

As I said, no signs of intelligent life in Timmay's eyes.

Red, this one's for you:

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It's the team that tried to get GA arrested for violating the anti-satire laws of the Reich. http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2011/08/dear-fbi-letter-no-4.html Maybe they feel guilty. What's the word for hypocrisy times 50?

Ha! Please nominate me, Karen! That will drive them NUTS.

Did you hear that Mason attacked the Governor? I hope he's got Paula Dow on Speed Dial.

http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2011/09/mason-attacks-governor-christie.html

GA, Zimmer should nominate you for every board seat that comes up just to drive them nuts. Not saying I want you on any boards b/c I think 1 seat per person is enough. But I'd love to see Mason foam at the mouth during the CC meeting when your name came up.

Thanks but one's enough for me! Although the pure pleasure from driving them NUTS is pretty tempting...

Ha! You can thank my agent, Lane Bajardi. And my Executive Producers, Beth and Ricky Mason.

Here's the poster for my first feature film:

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Have you got something against lizards?

The State didn't have to do a damned thing for Hoboken. Thinking that the State would pay 52 million for Hoboken's folly when the entire State has problems is misguided and dangerous. You should never get yourself into serious danger on purpose hoping that another party will swoop in and save you at the last minute. Hoboken had no reason to expect even 5 million.
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Due to Mayor Zimmer's and the Hospital Authority's hard work we were in the position for the Gov to aid Hoboken's residents and we should be thankful Gov Christie did the job Mason, Russo, Occhipinti and Castellano were elected to do.

Very bad thiniking if you want to protect the City's bond rating. Thnik about what you are saying to the folks that would be underwriting the City's bonds. That you really dont intnend to pay them in accordance with their terms, just if it suits your needs. Who cares if we default, we always know that the State will bail us out. Who would buy a bond from a city with such a checkered payment history on its obligations? Very irresponsible manner of conducting business.

Dave - this whole thing is a giant set up. Trust me. Zimmer and Christie had this whole $5 million ready to go long before Zimmer pulled her "last minute shenanigans" at City Hall. Do you really think the governor is just going to pop $5 million that fast without a thorough vetting and understanding process? Trust me...these two sides were talking long before hand. This is part of an overall Zimmer scheme to have her name appear with the popular Governor Christie. YOu can start looking for evidence of this plot in her attempt to move elections from May to November and thus run at the same time as Christie. Essentially ZImmer is in power grab desperation mode...and the Governor may be her ticket. (WHat this will do to Bhalla's relationship with Booker is going to be interesting).

It's tin foil hat time for H Questioner who is starting to see conspiracies everywhere. Yes that's it HQ- it's all an elaborate hoax to have the council minority look foolish by knowing they will vindictively and recklessly vote against anything Zimmer tries to enact!! The reality is then you say, it is Ms Zimmer's plan to let them vote irresponsibly! That is funny in a way, but about as plausible as delusions about monsters under your bed. The votes and the vitriol spewed by Ms Mason are their own evidence. As well Mr Russo and Ms Castellano basically said they were voting to spite the mayor and her handling of matters. Some elaborate conspiracy indeed - just on the Old Guard side of the table. They say screw the hospital, and that must be Zimmers master plan?!?!

How many times have we seen this throughout the course of history? Where a dominant class moves onto a land and pushes out a weaker class? How often have we hung our heads in shame as we have watched this? Folks..this is happening right now in front of your very eyes. Zimmer and her crew are in essence wiping out the Hoboken native born and raised class. And I appreciate and admire Russo's attempt to fight against this. His heart is in the right place. That is what the people read. We could care less for Zimmer's lies, ambitions and political set ups.

Questioner, close but no cigar on the quasi-Americana fife and drum, anals of history bit. However, there is a time when one group becomes institutionalized, lazy and corrupt and needs to be ousted from the houses of power, along with their paid by the hour dramatic fiction commenters. The paid-to mislead commenters will scheme and pontificate for the casual eye until the last man is standing, with each lie a coverup for the prior lie. You will know them by their changing screennames and desperate, wildly thrown together accusations and increasingly obvious lies. russocorruption dot com

I don't think the State would spend 52 million to bail out a municipality from a mess it could have extricated itself from and decided not to. It would encourage cities and towns to put themselves into danger and sooner or later there wouldn't be enough resources to save them all.
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I think we have to say these are special circumstance unlikely to ever repeat themselves and be thankful for the unexpected assistance.

You know what I think is lame? People who post questions to themselves, then answer them for the rest of us. Just sayin...

GA - I hope you carry some insurance on that blog site you are running. A defamation suit could wipe you out. I hear one such suit is already heading "hot head's" way. A law firm has been retained to view the material on both of your sites. Of course I don't know what your liquid net worth is but if you are - as suspected - taking payments from Stan Grossbard then you can't be worth all that much.

In fact what is interesting is that when you are finally served...I wonder if you are going to squeel like a little pig and tell the world who has been paying you for your dirty work.

HQ

I love, just love assinine silly posts like yours. The last thing in the world that you or Beth is going to do is sue GA. Why do I know that? Becasue if you do, then GA gets to rummage though all of the dirty laundry from Hudson Street and expose the nature the relationship between you and Beth and her other thuggish minions. I am thinking tax returns, etc. You know, that pesky stuff that parties to civil llaw suits have to turn over. If that weren't enough, you and Beth are public fihgures - anything GA has posted is protected free speech and if you sue, besides the humiliation and emabrassment that will come out of the discvoery process, you face the peril of bringing a baselessw lawsuit. I am also confident that any one of the several national free speech organizaitons will be more than happy to defend GA. Rather than ask GA what the value of her blog is, you should be checking out your own assets, and preparing for a bail application.

Speaking of the hail of law enforcement, the group "We love the FBI in Hoboken" just hit a new benchmark in membership.

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