Meeting Cancelled At Last Minute After Councilmembers Leave City Hall
Council members Peter Cunningham and Carol Marsh left the building at 7 p.m.
With a room full of Stevens Students, council meeting regulars and city directors waiting, Council Vice President Peter Cunningham and Councilwoman Carol Marsh left City Hall around 7 p.m. on Wednesday night, the exact moment the bi-monthly meeting was supposed to start, cancelling the meeting for lack of quorum.
Cunningham ran out in the direction of the ground floor bathroom, while Marsh took the elevator from the second floor of the building, her folder of paperwork still on the table in the council chambers where she had placed it minutes before.
The reason for their sudden departure?
They did not want to vote on a last-minute resolution—proposed by their political opponents Tim Occhipinti and Theresa Castellano—that called for a referendum for the people of Hoboken to decide whether or not to move school board elections, which are usually held in April, to the general election in November.
Councilmembers Jennifer Giattino, David Mello and Ravi Bhalla were absent, which would have left the power of the meeting in the hands of the council minority. The resolution would have probably passed in a 4-2 vote. With a four-vote majority, the council minority would have been in charge of the agenda of the evening.
After meeting with the mayor in her office right before the meeting, Cunningham and Marsh left the building. With only four council members present—not enough people to pass anything on the agenda—Corporation Counsel Mark Tabakin officially called the meeting off.
"This is not the city council working together," said mayoral critic Michael Russo, calling it "partisan politics at its best" and "despicable."
"We don't have the majority every single meeting," said Castellano, who said she was equally disappointed with the situation. "None of us get up and run out."
Also present in the crowd was Stevens Institute Prof. Jonathan Wharton with a class of political science students.
"What do I tell my class?" Wharton said, "they have a paper due!"
Other topics of the agenda included a $7.7 million contract to renovate Frank Sinatra Park and the Castle Point Terrace walkway. The four minority members said they would have likely voted "yes" on that deal.
The minority, made up of mayoral opponents, also said they were planning to ask questions about three city representatives going to Indianapolis this Superbowl weekend for a seminar. Councilwoman Jennifer Giattino, Director of Health and Human Services Leo Pellegrini and Parking Utility employee Ryan Sharp flew there on Wednesday. According to a receipt of the city of Hoboken, Sharp's airfare was $339.20 to fly from New York to Indianapolis.
Councilman Mello was absent from the meeting because he was under the weather, said Council President Bhalla, who was held up at work and couldn't make the meeting. But in a phone interview on Wednesday night Bhalla said he agreed with his colleague's decision to walk out.
"It was the responsible thing to do," he said about avoiding the vote on the last minute resolution.
A special meeting will be scheduled within seven days. Castellano said this will cost the city hundreds of dollars in overtime that could have been avoided.
"How selfish," she said. "Just because they can't get their way."
hobokenhorse.com
10:21 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
MSV has a full report and some additional exclusive coverage. On Thursday there will be another exclusive surprise you won't want to miss!
http://hobokenhorse.com
Mile Square View
Hoboken Questioner
10:51 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
Folks...don't be bothered with Roman's biased web site. Here is the issue - the question is whether to move the Board of Education "BOE" elections from April to November. The problem with doing this is that it will give the current BOE members 8 more months in power. That is a power grab.
A democratic coalition led by Occhipinti, Castellano, Mason and Russo want to resolve this issue by letting the people of Hoboken vote on whether to move elections to November.
However, the power grabbing council majority backed by Mayor Zimmer are trying to avoid a public vote at all costs. WHY? WHY? Why is Zimmer afraid of a public vote on this issue.
hobokenhorse.com
11:02 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
Shouldn't Lane Bajardi be rewriting his ghostwritten story all prepped and ready for Hoboken411? Sorry that earlier one got messed up, but hey Beth Mason does pay for overtime no?
Isn't Beth Mason on the record saying she believes the City Council members shouldn't interfere with the Hoboken Board of Education - two years running?!
(She is.)
The attempted power grab was tonight when the majority had multiple members out and just as in the previous "midnight power grab" for the control of the council, MORTe was again looking to hijack the legislative authority of the BoE in order to keep more voters from expressing THEIR will AT THE POLLS this November!
But it failed when no quorum could be called rendering their power grab inert.
Where are the quotes in this story from any of the Council majority or the Administration? This story RAN with only MORTe's being upset it's attempt to interfere with the BoE failed.
The public vote on the future of the BoE will be February 14th AT THE BoE and in November when the will of the voter will be heard. Chew on that prosbus.
Hoboken Questioner
11:07 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
If you check the timing it looks like Zimmer was the one who planted a pre-arranged story on your web site Roman. Wow...the CC meeting was barely even wrapped up and there you are with a story hot off the press...with quotes from Mello and Cunningham no less...hmm..how did you pull that one off so soon?
hobokenhorse.com
11:20 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
To HQ/prosbus/et all
FYI and on the Record:
Council members Peter Cunningham and Dave Mello provided their views hours after the meeting. Councilman Dave Mello did so directly in the comments section noting his illness and reason for not attending.
Thank you.
Mile Square View
http://hobokenhorse.com
Bet Mazin
11:38 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
I wish to issue my statement direct to the public. The public has a right to know why I might vote to seize power from the Hoboken Board of Education.
Tonight we were going to get them. With your help here and elsewhere, the Zimmertinis were out sick or doing recon for developing Hoboken business so we had our chance before the Hoboken BoE meets later this month and attempts to subvert my will and the will of the council minority.
I'm not going to admit how I would vote to seize power from the Hoboken BoE and unless there's proof, I'm going to say I wasn't guilty of any crime. My lawyer insists that I not be silenced - not here, not in the City Council and not by any voting majority elected on the Hoboken BoE or the FBI.
That is all. For now.
Thank you.
Looking down upon you with all my condescension,
Bet
Redrider765
8:44 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
There is nothing democratic about vote buying or vote buyers.
hobokenhorse.com
8:45 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
MSV has made its exclusive video from last night's council meeting available:
http://hobokenhorse.com
nice try
9:13 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Wow. Russo, Mason, Castellano and Occhipinti think they can override the legal authority of elected school board members. Talk about showing their true colors.
Hobbs
10:33 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
So Castellano, Occhipinti, Mason and Russo thought they could pull a power play and were foiled. YEAH !
Michael Russo tries to pull a low political stunt worthy of his convicted felon father and then has the nerve to say that others are not working together. LOL
Mason, Russo & Co. are desperate to be able to regain control the BOE elections and this last minute attempted power play was the underhanded way they went about it this time.
Frank "Pupie" Raia working with the Mason, Russo & Co know they can get out their small machine vote and have a much better chance to win if the voter turn out is low. Moving the elections whould increase the voter turn out an dilute their machine vote.
As usual Mrs. Castellano known for remaining deaf, dumb and blind to the transgressions and hundreds of thousands of dollars it cost Hoboken taxpayers have had to pay for her Russo realitives to her usal nasty cheap shot.
Prof. Wharton's political science class learned an important life lesson. :-)
Deborah Hulbert
10:32 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Professor Wharton's class learned just how dysfunctional Hoboken politics are last night. I wish someone would put a sock in Castellano's fat trap to keep her from making stupid and inaccurate remarks out-of-turn. She, along with Russo, Occhipinti and Mason, tried to undermine the BOE's authority IN AN OPEN PUBLIC FORUM. That's like stealing in broad day light! To quote another Hoboken blogger..."hate makes you stupid". That's why these hate-inspired shenanigans of the Council Minority will never, in the long run, accomplish anything.
Vincent Rossi
9:24 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
Your true calling is to serve as Propaganda Minister for the current Zimmer Administration .And concerning your disgusting hate filled vile remarks concerning the Russo Family, decency , compassion , forgiveness and understanding are not the contents of your character , but rather hatefull remarks, public humiliation , and misinformation are. Prof. Whartons political science class did learn a important lesson when in doubt being absent is the rule .and hitting the lowest demeanor when attacking political opponents is the Zimmer method . As for Zimmer last week she explained her reasoning for obstructing the annual Irish Day parade as being to unruly and costly for the City of Hoboken and threatens the quality of life of its residents , this week she is all in favor of a Giants Day parade because ? because ? it is what being hypercritical is all about .And lastly oh yea the days of Hudson County bossism and control would return having that board of election vote lumped in with the General election in Nov. A machine dream for column A , independents and home based political groups over powered democracy further hindered .
ThisMeansWar
10:19 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
Mr Rossi, the schools have a separate budget for a reason. So that the city council does not mix in their affairs. The minority attempted to do just that thanks to a rare evening as the majority, leaving Marsh & Cunningham no choice but to leave rather than become the instruments that validated minority's cynical ploy by giving them a quorum.
So yes, I think Professor Wharton's class may have learned something. Unfortunately, the rest of us have to learn it all the time.
Where did you hear Zimmer was in favor of a Giants parade? It will be in NYC like it was last time.
Also, there is no "Irish Day" parade. It's St Patricks. This sounds like another attempt to make this all about ethnic hatred, which it isn't, rather than a drunken fiasco and what do do about it, which it is.
Finally, the problem with "forgiving" the Russos is that a) there are simply too many chances to do it, and b) they don't seem particularly sorry. Only in the last year Sr. was caught scamming health care from the city while Jr was doing everything in his power to get our hospital closed; this was his follow-up to accepting a bribe on FBI surveillance cameras. We are supposed to take comfort in the fact that he didn't go back for the $$. We don't. HE should take comfort in it, since that's the only reason he isn't sitting in jail right now.
You're not too bad a propaganda yourself.
Outofcontrol
10:37 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
So the Zimmer Zombies took their ball and went home. They could have simply voted no on anything they didn't like. Instead they ran upstairs and were instructed by the inept mayor to sneak out the back door. Transparency? Mayor you're about as cloudy as the blood diamonds that support you.
ThisMeansWar
10:44 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
1) The minority was going to take the option of moving BOE elections to Nov away from the BOE. No public discussion, nothing.
2) You're an idiot.
Hobbs
10:57 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
A 4 to 2 vote.
No quorum, no vote and even someone with the amazingly poor math skills of Mike Russo could figure that out .
Mason Russo & Co got out maneuvered and their dasterdly plans were foiled again.
The good guys win. The bad guys bitch'n.
:-)
Hoboken Questioner
10:58 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
I see Hobbs - so to you the good guys winning means preventing the Citizens of Hoboken from voting on this issue? That about sums up your argument at this point.
Hobbs
11:05 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
LOL ,
I love it when one of Mason, Russo & Co plans blow up in their faces and their excuse makers try to do damage control.
Any
Hoboken Answer
11:05 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
You're so ugly when you're bitter. Or actually when you are more bitter. Have another drink, it will only look worse in the morning - and in November when the voters vote.
Hoboken Questioner
10:45 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
I am just absolutely blown away by this. Wow...I have never seen such blatant disrespect for proper governance! Basically all 5 members of the Council Majority managed to be "absent" for a vote that called for a "public referendum" on the issue of moving BOE elections to November? And there is evidence showing that Dawn Zimmer was behind this plot? WOW!!! Yes.. There will be MUCH MORE TO COME on this one folks.
Hoboken Answer
11:06 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
Really shouldn't you go to Hoboken411 and get that hanky already. Your worst fears are all about to come true, courtesy of the voters themselves....
And the FBI.
Lane Dastardly
11:11 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
there should be plenty more to come, you, prosbus and curiousGal will be loggging in and out from the same computer as one person "discussing" with yourself how the council minority should have stolen away with a quorum against the will of the voterrs while councilmembers were too sicck to come to the meeting. you're a snoooze, shill
Lane Dastardly
11:13 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
this Questioner sock puppet baloney is the best Mason can do at this point
HobokenTownie
12:17 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Tactics are used all the time in politics. Why should a minority on the board control the board on a critical decision? Not everything needs to be put to a referendum. Our system of government was designed to maintain order, not be perfect. The tactics used by the minority failed. If the majority of Hoboken agreed with the actions of Beth Mason and her crew, wouldn't she have won the election or elections she has run in for mayor?
Silly topic, not an issue.
FAP
10:47 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
Why did Castellano and Occhipinti spring this at the last minute? It robs parents of the opportunity to speak on the subject.
Were Castellano and Occhipinti afraid of what parents would say?
Hoboken Questioner
10:57 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
FAP you seem like a nice chap...but I prefer that Redriderinfotainme character...where is he? Methinks he is going to earn his overtime check tonight. LMAO
CuriousGal
11:02 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
Not a bad week for Dawn. Her zombie council walks out on a council meeting at the last minute even through there was no excuse other than partisan politics; she has a lawsuit against her and her BA for punitive damages and harassment charges from a 39yr civil servant, and she mucks up the pay for the firemen after signing off on all the paperwork. Maybe too many cameos on the Cake Boss?
Hoboken Answer
11:07 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
Yes let's talk more about the foul mouthed bribe taking Al Arezzo and that funky smoke device he approved on lower Park.
Tell us more CuriousGal; we're all very curious.
Lane Dastardly
11:23 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
Questioner, you and your other 4 screen names are the only ones beeing paid. do you get seperate checks?
Grafix Avenger
7:02 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Curious Kim... are you... jealous? I know you thought by now hubby would have that PIO gig for Mayor Mason, then some day you;d be on Capitol Hill... HAW HAW HAW.
WAKE UP from your lovely dream... your rage is jealousy. boo hoo. What a horrid mother you are... trying 24/7 to wreck our district, the one that will serve your own child. The kid would be better off being raised by wolves.
http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/02/marsh-and-cunningham-foil-farmer-frank.html
Hoboken Questioner
10:53 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
The lies and distortions that Zimmer's paid minions are going spray all over this web site are just sad and pathetic. If Zimmer is truly the "3rd most powerful power broker in Hudson County" the way the Hudson Reporter suggests then why is she so afraid of the public voting on this issue? Why did she order Cunningham and Marsh to exit the City Council chambers and Escape through the back? And don't think we wont find the tapes on that one. Is this the actions of a leader? Pulling items away from the public for a righteous vote? This is just ridiculous.
Hoboken Answer
11:10 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
Three cheers for Mayor Zimmer and Council members Cunningham and Marsh!
They just made sure the Hoboken BoE can give Hoboken voters the choice on elections to vote what they want for themselves!
Here's looking at voting in November.
Lane Dastardly
11:21 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
the minority was voted in to be a minority not a majoritty. that is the the way the people voted for th council
Redrider765
8:47 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Dastardly, actually, if you exclude the voters who got checks, at least 2 members of the minority wouldn't have won reelection. Really helps to win a tight election if you write a few hundred checks. Wouldn't you agree propuss?
Hoboken Questioner
10:55 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
My sources tell me that Cunningham and Marsh were in the City Hall chambers and that they were ordered out - evacuated - by a Mayor too scared of a public vote to resolve an issue that should be voted on by the people.
Hoboken Answer
11:08 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
A Beth Russo political operation to inject themselves into the Hoboken BoE down in flames.
Cry baby, cry.
ThisMeansWar
11:08 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
The PUBLIC elected the council. It was the minority's cynical avoidance of that council and thereby the will of the PUBLIC that led to this underhanded, unannounced-to-the-public move.
Any way you slice it the elections are moving to November where turnout for BOE will be much higher, and harder to buy, than it is now. Spin away. That's all that's left to do. You kids just lost the BOE election and you know it. I wonder if anti-KF Inc. will pay you as much now under the circumstances since you can't win without cheating and cheating just got SOOOO much more expensive. Just make sure your wife curiouskim gets paid on the books. You don't want her to end up like....
Lane Bajardi, who has NEVER appeared in an ELEC report for Beth Mason or Tim Occhipinti. He appears in this midnight video for Occhipinti's campaign leaders. http://www.hobokenhorse.com/2010/10/grist-for-mill-midnight-monday-meeting.html
Is he credited in Beth Mason's IRS filings? Does he credit her in his tax forms?
http://www.fbi.gov/news/videos/inside-the-fbis-internet-tip-line
CuriousGal
11:26 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
ThisMeansNancy- pathetic trying to defend Dawn and all these antics.
Lane Dastardly
11:28 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
oh, you're signed in as Curiousgal this time?
Grafix Avenger
6:53 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Read it and weep, Curious Kim. FYI, I'm not TMW, but don't care if you think I am. Should I? He/she is awfully clever.
http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/02/marsh-and-cunningham-foil-farmer-frank.html
Deborah Hulbert
10:41 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Were your sources in the Mayor's office behind closed doors with Peter Cunningham and Carol Marsh, HQ? Of course they weren't because you just made this crap up. You don't know this Mayor at all...she's not afraid of anything when it comes to protecting the best interests of the residents of the City of Hoboken. She's pretty fearless, in fact. This is what's made so many naysayers like you, who thought she was a pushover, crazy.
Hoboken Questioner
11:12 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
I think the public has a right to know WHY DID CUNNINGHAM AND MARSH bail out on the CC meeting? They are getting paid to represent the people of Hoboken and instead of acting in the town's best interests they ran out the back door obeying Zimmer's orders.
Hobbs
11:20 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
BANG ! Another one of one of Mason.Russo & Co. political schemes blows up in their face and now just the damage control spin remains.
Bottom line: More people will vote for the Board Of Education and that my friends is not just a good thing but a GREAT THING ! :-)
Lane Dastardly
11:23 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
we have a right to know if this is Kim or Lan blogging as Hoboken Questioneer
Redrider765
8:53 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Don't worry Dastardly, both are equally obtuse and equally vile. Plus, they have a dozen other SNs that will pop up soon and ride to the rescue.
Outofcontrol
11:16 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
This is interesting. Hoboken Horse already knows how the BOE will vote on February 14th?
I wonder how many ethics rules have been broken as board members discuss this issue with a blogger. Seems to me that the council minority were right in trying to let the PUBLIC decide rather than some backroom wheeler-dealers from the Zimmer Machine.
I am also wondering if the Zimmer Zombies were trying to avoid the questions regarding the possibility that the taxpayers may have sent three members of her administration to the Super Bowl. I think it's time ANSWERS mayor. Who paid for the Super Bowl trip?
Hoboken Questioner
11:22 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
Really?...hmm. That is interesting too...
Hoboken1653
11:23 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
There are two things I know for certain about tonight's events. L Blojardi is hyperventalating somewhere right now, and Mama Russo is spilling sauce on her cheap t-shirt while whining that her plot got foiled
hobokenhorse.com
11:27 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
Reported the story and it's all available in the earlier Monday exclusive:
http://www.hobokenhorse.com/2012/01/hoboken-boe-prepares-for-election.html
And no ethics rules were broken. But hey, good hail mary heave there.
P.S. More on the Super Bowl non-story. Who got an invite? (You should have checked first OOC.) ;)
CuriousGal
1:22 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Looking forward to hearing more about the Indiana/Super Bowl junket that I paid for...
Grafix Avenger
6:50 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Some angry pillow talk with the Farmer last night? It's Elmo time!
http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/02/marsh-and-cunningham-foil-farmer-frank.html
Redrider765
8:52 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
You sure were up late curiouslyobtusegal. You must be spitting mad your sneak attack on the BOE was foiled and you can't use that slimy emergency resolution to prevent the BOE from moving BOE elections to November when turnout will be to high for you folks to buy an election victory quite as easily.
Hoboken Questioner
11:18 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
So I am reading some Stevens' students were there. As per that Wharton fellow - "What do I tell my class?" Wharton said, "they have a paper due!" LOL. WOW..I'd love to know what the Stevens students thought about this one.
Hoboken Answer
11:28 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
They just learned first hand what it's like when a naked power grab is ruined. Sorry.
nice try
9:18 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
They can start by asking why the city council minority members Russo, Mason, Castellano and Occhipinti thought they could override the legal authority of the elected school board to change the date of the school board elections. Perhaps Claire can follow-up with that question too.
Outofcontrol
11:28 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
Why isn't anyone talking about the taxpayer funded trip to Indianapolis? Hobbs? Can you give us some clarification? Horsey, how about you? You guys seem to know so much. Tell us that this isn't what it appears to be.
hobokenhorse.com
9:47 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
That's not the story. It will be a great story - for Hoboken and especially in promoting Hoboken business' with the Super Bowl coming to Giants Stadium in 2014.
Mile Square View
http://hobokenhorse.com
Eric
10:22 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Indianapolis, synonymous with luxury and sophistication, a Mecca to the well heeled, discerning world traveler.
Seriously, are you kidding me? As if anyone looks forward to a trip to Indianapolis?
Just curious, is a trip to Indianapolis better than a trip to Israel with a stop in Italy? You know like the trip those two clowns who were arrested by the Feds, Ricciardi and Corea, took a few years back.
Hobbs
11:35 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
I am sure those Stevens' students will be writing in their papers how the son and cousin of Hoboken's First family of Corruption and their politically desperate banker and their bought and paid for vote tried to play some dirty tricks and was caught and stopped dead in thier tracks.
Those students got a very good life lesson. ....and so did Mason,Russo & Co. :-)
Hoboken Questioner
11:38 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
Um...Hobbs my man...from what I am hearing they were basically laughing their asses off at the story about Marsh and Cunningham trying to make a run for it....but please your dramatic verse sounds so well put together...by all means continue "son of Hoboken's First damily....politically desperate...play tricks...." lol..
Oh boy folks...its time for my medication.
Hobbs
11:44 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
You heard wrong.
But perhaps as you say it's time for more of your medication . :-)
Lane Dastardly
11:45 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
Hobokken Questioner is confused. it when he's loggged in as prosbus that he acts a little crazzy
Bet Mazin
11:42 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
I need my pills. Which one of you biyatches took my damn Special K?
HobokenLeaks
5:20 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Another day, another failed coup attempt. And Laney and Kimmy seething because propagandists get paid a lot le$$ for unwinnable elections. Sweet. It's gonna be a good day.
Grafix Avenger
6:49 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Farmer Frank and his City Council farm hands FOILED by Marsh and Cunnigham! My new school Board HEROES! Yeeee HAW!
http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/02/marsh-and-cunningham-foil-farmer-frank.html
FAP
7:25 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Why did Occhipinti and Castellano try to keep this vote secret from parents and residents? What were they afraid of?
Grafix Avenger
7:49 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Great questions, FAP.
http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/02/marsh-and-cunningham-foil-farmer-frank.html
v
8:38 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Castellano and Occhipinti are afraid that the people have figured out how they have lied and misrepresented their wards. They are paid off and just vote for who supported them, they hate Hoboken.
Bob R
8:41 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
If I were a member of the council minority I would be seriously concerned about the amount of time Lane Bajardi spends spinning talking points on Patch. That says to me he's not as bogged down in Newark these days, because he's already spilled all the beans he has on everyone, which is a lot, and the Feds are in the final stages of piecing the puzzle together. This tempest in a teapot cannot change the storm that is coming to Hoboken. Watch and learn.
Outofcontrol
9:50 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
The legislation that was recently passed at the State provides for three methods for moving the election: 1) The municipal body may do so by resolution, 2) The BOE may do so by resolution, 3) the public, by petition of 15% of the registered voters may do so. What the council minority was proposing last night was to let the people decide through referendum. This would have allowed the people the opportunity to be heard and not allow the politically controlled council or BOE to short circuit the will of the people.
What is going unsaid here is that by moving the election to November, the public will lose their right to vote on the school budget. That means that no longer will the budget be subject to public scrutiny. The mayor and her minions on the board would like to be able to hide their budget from public vote.What the council minority proposed last night would have assured continued vote on school spending. Zimmer and company would like to do away with that level of transparency. Moving the election to November would also assure Zimmer and her puppets that they would have control for an additional 8 months while they go on a wild spending spree. By walking out of the meeting, the Zimmer council puppets were trying to aid and abet their counterparts at the BOE in extending their terms without public input. Reformers? Gimme a break!!!
Bob R
9:58 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
I thought these weasels were supposed to be slick. How come every time they try to pull an underhanded stunt, they get outmaneuvered at every turn? Total amateur hour, week after week. Sheesh. Kinda sad.
Redrider765
10:05 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
The will of the people is not being served by people who write hundreds of checks on election day. They wish to obstruct the will of the people by launching 11th hour sneak attacks.
Seriously - if the minority wants to put this resolution out there for a vote so the will of the people can be done, tell them to put it on the agenda w/ plenty of warning so the people have notice, the people can speak at the meeting and the full CC can take it up and vote on it.
Hoboken1653
10:13 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
OutofControl apparently wants us to believe he/she/it suddenly cares about spending or the will of the people. Meanwhile the people he/she/it most solidly supports consistently buy absentee ballots, & could care less about spending and theft
The fake righteous outrage coming from he/she/it is an absolute joke
pied piper
10:14 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
What a bunch of nonsense!
1) ANY school budget that goes above the 2%cap MUST be on the ballot for a vote. Any budget that remains at or under the 2% does not.
2)The Hoboken school board has provided the lowest legal tax levy allowable by law and has had 3 budget cycles of flat levy.
FAP
10:19 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
So your method of allowing the people to be heard is to hold a secret vote avoiding public input? This is what you want everyone to buy?
.
Good luck with that.
nice try
10:19 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
@OutofControl: The legislation doesn't give the city council the right to override the legal authority of the elected school board members. The city council could vote in favor of such a move but it cannot override the school board's authority. The legislation only requires a vote on the school board budget if it is above the local cap and as you know Kids First has the budget at the lowest level legally allowed by the state.
http://www.njsba.org/sb_notes/20120118/legislation.html
Journey
9:43 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
I would be upset with Marsh and Cunningham if this resolution had been on the agenda and the public had a chance to speak about it.
But Russo and company didn't want that either.
gettheledout44
10:25 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
it doesn't matter what the issue is. Marsh and Cunningham bailed out of a scheduled meeting to avoid a quorum. they should have dragged mello off his couch instead of slinking out the back door. anyone know what would happen if the council voted for a refernendum on moving boe election to nov and boe itself voted to move it to nov? rock paper scissors?
and funniest post goes to horsedoo for saying jen gitttino and deesedemdose pelligrini are going to drum up business for hoboken in indy.
Redrider765
10:29 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Oh please, the issue is you folks launched a sneak attack, got caught and failed. Next time either put your BS resolution on the agenda so all can see and let the whole CC vote on the matter. We are tired of your sneaky, underhanded and deceptive BS.
Now pick a screen name and stick w/ it already! Tired of you and your spouse and your multitude of screen names.
pied piper
10:31 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
So that's your strategy? rock paper scissors instead of facts, details and laws. Thank god, your people are in the minority.
p1ywood
11:13 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
"It doesn't matter what the issue is". Pathetic spin at it's worst. "dragged mello off his couch". Unbelievable. The man was at home sick. What about all the meetings that Ms Mason misses because she is off on vacation??? You Old Guard flacks just make it up as you go along, right? Yeah, let's put a Majority corsage back on Ms Mason and Mr Russo because Councilman Mello is home sick. How ridiculous you sound.
Journey
11:45 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
I will personally through that back in your face the next time Russo and company does not show up to a meeting to block a vote.
I don't have the time to look for it but I'm sure they have done it in the past and will do it again in the future.
gettheledout44
7:11 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
the five member majority couldn't get ONE member to show up for a scheduled meeting? ONE? ravi is busy discovering there's a hospital in town and you can get a baby delivered there (guess he doesn't have to worry about using one of the insurance companies that got dumped). cunningham got the nervous runs and stained his khakis. carol didn't get her script from lenz delivered in time. jen thinks they;re running the indy 500 this weekend so she's doing research for sachs on putting gps on the cars. mello called in sick poor baby. We pay these people,, remember?
Lane Dastardly
10:42 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
ooo getthelledout44 is cranky. probably didn't get paid for bloggging this week because the posts are sooo lame
Eric
10:35 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
More people vote in November. They should move all of the elections to one day. Busy people would appreciate the consolidation of time and taxpayers benefit from the greatly reduced cost of holding the elections.
Why does the council majority want to waste tax payer money on having a separate election?
More people voting means a more accurate picture of what the people want.
pied piper
10:42 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
It is estimated that school board elections cost school boards as much as 100k per election.
hobokenhorse.com
10:46 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
The answer is in your first sentence: "More people vote in November."
MORTe and the Old Guard will fight to the death to avoid more voters in November elections.
Castellano complains about the cost of a special meeting. What she doesn't tell you is how much money Hoboken saves by having BoE elections in November when the county and state will pick up the costs.
Of course cost wasn't what was their concern. It was to stave off the voters.
Lane Dastardly
10:50 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
It is the council MINORITY (Mason, Timmy, Castalano, of course Russo) that wants to have a separate electtion for the Education board in April. That's because they walk around and pull the vote and want a small turnout so their puppet candidates can be ushered in without most pepple voting. then the handwashing goes on
Redrider765
10:53 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
But more people voting makes it harder for the cheaters to win by stuffing the ballot boxes w/ votes from their bought & paid for votes. So the cheaters and their supporters have skid marks in their pants when it comes to moving elections to November b/c they are afraid they will no longer be able to cheat their way to victory.
Just imagine how many more people would have come out in the 2nd & 4th ward if it were held in connection w/ Federal or State elections and ask yourself if either one of those representatives would still be there in that situation. Personally I think the answer would be a resounding no.
HobokenTownie
12:19 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Many towns have separate BOE elections - this is not a conspiracy. Additionally, Hoboken's public schools are terrible and it does not matter who runs the system it is in the toilet now and will be for some time to come.
Journey
1:00 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
HobokenTownie,
While you might be willing to throw the baby out with the bath water, I'm not.
The schools will might be bad for a long time, but unless we keep the people that want to use it as their personal piggy back out, it will never get better.
A journey of 1000 miles starts with single step.
pied piper
4:17 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
The schools are NOT bad. Scores of parents who have children enrolled in the district have sung the schools praises and are very happy with the children's performance as well as the professional staff and warm environment. The parents of public school children love their children and want the best for them. They have chosen the public schools. GA is just one of the many.
Most of the people claiming the schools are bad, have never stepped foot in one nor do they have children attending any on of them.
There are open houses, gosee for yourselves, or ask ,one of the many ,parents whose children attend the public schools what their views are- they most likely would be happy to tell you of their experiences.
gettheledout44
7:13 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
if the hoboken schools are so great then why did you move to westfield???
guest23
11:05 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Just a question here. If the vote would have passed 4-2, can't the mayor veto the resolution. Doesn't it still have to go to her desk for her to sign?
p1ywood
11:10 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
This is the situation, which is a bit different from this bias reporting on Patch which only cites persons from one side of the story. The Council minority was trying to do an underhanded end run. We all realize legislation should not hinge on whether the persons voted in are home sick for a meeting, it should hinge on what the persons the people elected to be a majority have to say. There was no emergency surrounding this attempted resolution, yet the Council minority tried like nasty children to pull a fast one. Again. That's what they do. It was dirty politics against the will of the people and it was stopped dead in it's tracks. Done. Stop spinning, Old Guard and your nasty bloggers, because that just means it will need to be emphasized over and over that the Council minority acted in bad faith and against the will of Hoboken. The Council minority should be issuing an apology instead of pretending to be disingenuously outraged. Of course since the Old Guard's blogging staff only say what they are told to believe to get Ms Mason elected in 2013 we all know this is not over.
gettheledout44
7:17 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
then the majority should show up. they were zero for five. we pay these people to go to meetings and they ALL found something better to do. the people who showed up didn't pull a fast one. get your head out of your orifice.
Grafix Avenger
7:27 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
James, is that you? You're more vulgar than your unibrowed-idol. Not quite as articulate. I'm worried about you... you seem to be a wee bit unstable these days. You're taking this latest implosion of your political strategy very badly. Relax.
Yes, Last night was a grave disappoint to Hoboken's farming community.
Alas, the November harvest will be a lean one, proportionally speaking. One can't buy an election in a presidential year. If only the farmers of Hoboken could use those ho's (like Lane and his shrew) for reaping an April victory. boo hoo.
http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/02/marsh-and-cunningham-foil-farmer-frank.html
gettheledout44
10:23 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
stincus, what was the majority plan? cunningham rushes out to make the 3for1 madras shorts sale at Joseph A Bank? Marsh heads straight to lenz for instructions on how to walk and chew gum at the same time? Mello stays at home barfing at the idea of having to take the bar exam again? jen heads to indy with dawn's soccer pal and ravi has to "work" at the job that's more important than the one he was elected to and gets paid by the taxpayers.
a proud moment for democracy. sorry stevens students that you had to see this.
Lane Dastardly
10:45 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
i wonder if gettheledoutt44 kisses Bet with that sewer mouth? wwhat a fool
Napoleon Complex
8:42 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
gettheledout44, that 3 for 1 Madras comment was hilarious!! I mean what do I know I shop in the kids section at Macy's though. Well at least now I do. Back when I was jobless, like the last 5 years, I had to hit today's man or Century 21. Needed the discounts
Anyways great job! I have to go feed Mongo breakfast at Mason's 12th street HQ, uhhh I mean the beautiful art gallery with side room for Team Mason meetings. There are at least 5 staffers working for queen bee. Lord knows a city councilperson with no full time job who represents about 10 blocks of people needs at least 5 staffers.
Eric
11:13 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
These threads play out something like this:
Joe Shmoe is standing on the corner waiting for the light to change, minding his own business and up walks Jerk Magurk.
Jerk Magurk doesn't like Joe Shmoe. Suddenly for no apparent reason, he sucker punches Joe in the back of the head.
Joe Shmoe turns, clocks Jerk Magurk and lays him out on the sidewalk
Through his tears, Jerk Magurk cries "YOU CAN'T BEAT ME UP! DON'T YOU KNOW ASSAULT IS AGAINST THE LAW!"
Rinse, repeat, every damned thread you see some comments saying that you can't be for reform if you're playing politics against people with no ethics. It's like saying your a violent person just because you fought dirty and successfully defended yourself from some jerk who tried to assault you while you're minding your own business.
rtrux
11:30 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
true, eric, and everyone understands that's the situation. the crybabies and complainers you see here on patch are just disingenuous phonies. believe me, NO fair-minded citizen pays attention to their attempted spin, they're just taking to themselves. wonder if ricky mason realizes all he's doing is funding a small, inconsequential cyber-circle jerk?
guest23
11:18 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Just a question here. If the vote would have passed 4-2, can't the mayor veto the resolution. Doesn't it still have to go to her desk for her to sign?
pied piper
11:26 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Had this passed, there would be no need for her to veto such resolution.
pied piper
11:25 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
The idea that the cc minority would attempt to place an emergency resolution on the table, nearly 2-3 weeks before any issue had to be voted for is laughable. There is another cc meeting within that time frame, why didnt they just ask for it to be put on the agenda at the next cc meeting- or even present their resolution earlier so it was on last night's agenda? This law has been in effect for a while now.
Seems like the council minority would like the governemnt run via rock, paper, scissors (pencil).
puzzledone
12:30 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
rock paper scissors? more like cash in envelope, cash in briefcase, cash in car trunk.
For those keeping track, briefcase opens and holds envelope, car crushes briefcase, and envelope wraps around the car the same way paper wraps rock. Who all wants to play?
p1ywood
12:42 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
puzzledone, could I add to the game purple pillow smothers will of the people?
Hobbs
11:42 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Having Castellano and Russo two members of Hoboken's notorious First Family of Corruption try to play the the victim when their "dispicable" political plot blew up in their face is helarious. :-)
gettheledout44
7:20 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
so Mason & co knew ahead of time that mello, balla and jen were going to blow off the meeting?
professorpinetop
11:49 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012
The funny part of all this is that we were just grandstanding - the resolution was just make believe to give us a platform to say "let the people decide" over and over again and get Claire and Ray to cover it like it was an actual story. We can't legally create a referendum by resolution, and the School Board gets to make the decision anyway so our resolution was just a silly PR game but it would have fooled Claire and Ray. Those dummies never bother to fact check what we make up.
Even now, nobody is bothering to ask us why we put forward a silly resolution that didn't actually do anything claiming it was an "emergency" only after we heard that three Council members wouldn't be there. If they do ask why we didn't just put it on the agenda last week when we were supposed to and before we knew that we'd be in charge, we'll just say "let the people decide" over and over. I'm sure Claire will make it her headline - she's such a nice girl.
We're so much smarter than you guys its ridiculous. Now if only we were smart enough to figure out why we always lose.
Hobbs
12:04 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Like the sarcasm ProfessorPT, althought I doubt Claire Moses and Ray Smith of The Hoboken Reporter do, as it is again calling into question their journalistic credibility . :-)
p1ywood
12:04 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
professorpinetop is back! It must be oldies week in the "choose a screenname" boiler room over at Mason/Russo headquarters! Same drek, new cover!
p1ywood
12:13 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
The beat goes on. The Old Guard should release a line of action figures to represent each of these many screennames that 2 or 3 people actually author. Good way to raise money for that Ms Mason for Mayor 2013 campaign!
Hobbs
12:16 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
plywood as one of the leading posters of wit and wisdom I am amused that you did not see the sarcasm and humor of dreging up one of Hate411's screen names to give a backhanded slap to the spin of Mason, Russo & Co.. :-)
p1ywood
12:29 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
My bad, Hobbs, honestly sorry to have rained on your parade, it was a good parody you had on, and I am humbled by your assessment of me, but I'll tell you what I think. The Old Guard spin, as we say in sports, is currently in "scramble" mode. I find you to be a humourous commenter, but at the same time I have seen examples where "self-parody" is also in the book of tricks for the Old Guard. Your comedy is certainly well founded but I fear many will not see through to understand what it is. I might be wrong.
-
Conversely though, also, in the interest of full disclosure, or to take this dialog to the next level, if I am honest with myself I have to wonder how many people actually read these threads after they pass about 30 comments or so. My guess is less than 20.
Hobbs
12:49 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
It was not my post plywood.
I do try to see the humor in Hoboken politics as do you.
I am not sure how many read all the postings on any given thread either but I think enough do. :-)
p1ywood
12:58 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Thanks Hobbs. We're good, bro.
gettheledout44
7:22 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
hobbs + plywood = mello's barf
Reformerus_Gianticus
1:01 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Here is the situation as I see it:
- The Old Guard wants control of the School Board back.
- There is up to $2 million in patronage to be siphoned off once they have control of the board again.
- If anyone thinks Frank Raia and Ma Russo being at the BOE meetings actually has to do with the education of our children I have a bridge to sell you.
- The Old Guard does not want November Elections because they fear turnout = democracy.
- Vote buying is more expensive for November Elections.
- I think Toback should be given a chance to fix the schools. The revolving door of Supers must stop!
- The Old Guard wants Toback out and Petrosino in!
- Petrosino collected $144K a year while living in Texas. It was a part time gig. And he sued the City when his fat contract expired and lost. Another public tit sucker that one is.
- Whatever you think of Kids First imagine the BOE and your tax bill with Michele Russo in charge of the Board.
- Jamie Cryan belittles Seniors- says they don't know how to vote in November elections.
Say no to Russo, Raia, Sullivan and Mason controlling the BOE and say yes to School Board Elections in November!
Passkey
1:54 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
In 2 yrs Petrosino oversaw the conception, development, editing, and writing of a PreK-12 curriculum (first time in 25+ years) with associated lesson plans, district assessments, and guides. Formed partnerships with the Liberty Science Center, the New Jersey Commission on Holocaust Education, The National Center for History in the Schools (NCHS) , the Hoboken Historical Museum, National Geographic Geography Standards, The Presidential Library Project, The Hoboken Library, and Stevens Institute. Brought into the district Tools of the Mind, Read 180, SRI (online reading inventory), Expanded John Hopkins Program, Revamped Saturday U program, oversaw technology plan for district, led QSAC effort in Curriculum and Program, oversaw 8000+ hrs of professional development for 80 + district teachers, updated public regularly on progress of curriculum, met regularly with Trenton to assure compliance, oversaw NCLB compliance, brought LitLife into the district (early literacy program), as well as coordinated "Backward Design" training, other activities including regular visits to the schools, meetings with supervisors, principals and provided Board with full implementation plan. In addition he gave invited lectures at Harvard, University of Michigan, Rutgers, and the NSF dealing with the work in Hoboken...all the while Reformerus_Gianticus claims he was living someplace else. Petrosino this month gave talks to the National Academy of Sciences and the National Research Council in DC.
Passkey
2:05 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
This is not about Dr. Toback vs Dr. Petrosino--- I suggest the self proclaimed "Bard of Hoboken" does Dr. Toback no favors by pitting these two gentlemen against each other.
ThisMeansWar
2:25 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
So I guess you're ghost-writing this Petrosino guy's autobiography?
You guys are just completely dependent on a stupid and gullible public, aren't you?
Redrider765
2:42 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
We didn't pay the man all that money so he could give lectures anywhere. We didn't pay him so he could write academic papers about Hoboken. We didn't pay him to use this district as a research subject he could play around with and use as a case study. Texas may have paid him to do research, get published and give lectures but Hoboken certainly didn't. That wasn't part of his job description. We paid him to do a job, a job he wasn't here full time doing, a job that certainly didn't have his undivided attention and a job that seemed he couldn't get done on time. We are well rid of him. Let him stay gone forevermore.
Khoboken
4:40 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Oh shove it, pASSkey. Petrosino is just another in a long line of blood sucking leeches at the BOE. You can put all the lipstick on that pig's resume and he is still a pig. He lives and works in Texas - there is NOTHING relevant that he has to offer the Hoboken Hbooken system at this point, except continuous lobbying and wheedling for another part time with full time pay and benefits gig. Not happening. Get over it.
Passkey
6:31 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Redrider765 When Petrosino left Kids First hired *at least* 5 administrators to do what he was doing...(Rusak; Anzul; Acting Interim Supervisor of Instruction: Mathematics; Acting Interim Supervisor of Instruction: Language Arts; and Supervisor of Curriculum and Instruction: Humanities). And the result has been a disaster--
The Board approved the curriculum he oversaw unanimously. He took QSAC Program and Instruction from 34% to 87% (before it fell 20 points under Dr. Toback).
Passkey
6:32 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
what he has to offer may be for others to eventually decide....not you
Redrider765
7:11 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
You mean what he wasn't doing. Thanks for doing nothing but cashing those checks. Stay in Texas please. We don't need your kind here.
Passkey
8:50 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Redrider765- In 2 yrs Petrosino oversaw the conception, development, editing, and writing of a PreK-12 curriculum (first time in 25+ years) with associated lesson plans, district assessments, and guides. Formed partnerships with the Liberty Science Center, the New Jersey Commission on Holocaust Education, The National Center for History in the Schools (NCHS) , the Hoboken Historical Museum, National Geographic Geography Standards, The Presidential Library Project, The Hoboken Library, and Stevens Institute. Brought into the district Tools of the Mind, Read 180, SRI (online reading inventory), Expanded John Hopkins Program, Revamped Saturday U program, oversaw technology plan for district, led QSAC effort in Curriculum and Program, oversaw 8000+ hrs of professional development for 80 + district teachers, updated public regularly on progress of curriculum, met regularly with Trenton to assure compliance, oversaw NCLB compliance, brought LitLife into the district (early literacy program), as well as coordinated "Backward Design" training, other activities including regular visits to the schools, meetings with supervisors, principals and provided Board with full implementation plan. In addition he gave invited lectures at Harvard, University of Michigan, Rutgers, and the NSF dealing with the work in Hoboken...all the while Redrider claims he was living someplace else.
Redrider765
8:25 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
You know, you keep saying he did this and he did that but it all goes back to this one little problem I have with the man, he got hired to do a full time gig, he worked part time at it and never completed the job. The man was hired on a one year contract to do a job. In that year, he didn't finish the job he was hired to do b/c he was too busy screwing around with his other job down in Texas, giving lectures and doing God knows what else. So he stuck around for another year and still didn't finish the job here in Hoboken b/c he was stils screwing around at his other job down in Texas. Now at this point, your boy Jack knew he was on the way out so your boy Jack tried to get him a contract that would renew automatically so we'd be stuck paying this guy forever to not finish the work here in Hoboken b/c he was too busy doing whatever down in Texas. Sorry, enough is enough. No more blank checks. You want to get hired on a 1 year contract to do a job here in Hoboken then get it done in a year or have a damn good reason why you need more time. And by the way, greed doesn't qualify as a good reason!
Grafix Avenger
2:12 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Timmy attacked Kids First on his Facebook page last night... what a dim wit.
http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/02/timmy-attacks-kids-first.html
Reformerus_Gianticus
2:53 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
I overheard Raia himself lamenting in a public space that a November election would buy Toback another year. Frank Raia's got one big loud mouth. Who else would Raia have in mind but Petrosino to replace Toback? They are buddies on the HOLA Board and Frank got a nice $100k public contract out of that arrangement. As Russo Jr. says "You do for me, I do for you".
This isn't Toback vs. Petrosino passkey. This is Frank Raia against BOE reform and Frank Raia for BOE jobs and Frank Raia against Toback. I say give the guy a chance. Petrosino had his chance under Raslowsky and cashed in and then like a petualant child sued and lost when the gravy train dried up on him. Waaah!
This has nothing to do with Petro's academic credentials which I don't question and everything thing to do about the old crappy way of doing things which Petro under Raslowsky was a part of. $144K for a part time job where you are barely in Hoboken? C'mon man cut the Crap-HOLA and get real passkey.
Frank and his sad slate of slippery suckers should come clean and reveal his true motivations for gaining back the BOE. Jobs and Money for the Russo clan and his Pupie Pals.
Mrs Prosbus
6:08 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
The giant is blogging during work hours, better call the fbi on him.
Passkey
6:21 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Sorry Reformerus_Gianticus- I heard that the petualant children were the Kids First Board who initiated a costly counter suit against Petrosino...
pied piper
6:29 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Uh- NO Petro- as anyone can clearly see- it states:
Anthony J Petrosino
vs
HBOE
http://www.skicamelback.com/Camelback-Mountain/Conditions.aspx
Those damn facts!
pied piper
6:30 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
http://thehobokenjournal.blogspot.com/2010/01/hoboken-boe-fact-check-dr-petrosinos.html
Reformerus_Gianticus
6:31 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Passkey- Sometimes a Government Board has to make a decision to fight a lawsuit that has no merit. The judge found against Petrosino so it looks like the Board was right.
The Anti-November gum flapping from Old Guard bloggers and operatives has everything to do with limiting votes and absolutley nothing to do with more participation.
Your side will simply have to buy more votes diminishing your return on investment in a potentially rigged election.
Passkey
6:40 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
The lawsuit that had no merit and was costly was the Board's counter suit against Petrosino--
Redrider765
7:13 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
pASSkey, countersuits against people who file frivolous suits are quite common. I would hope that suit is still ongoing so the BOE can recoup all the money you forced the city to waste on legal expenses.
Passkey
9:02 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Reformerus_Gianticus- what about the new crappy way of doing things like trying to appoint superintendents on "live agenda items"??? Or reappointing Peter Carter 2 weeks before the 2010 Board election even though his contract was good until August 2010? ;-) Just turn a blind eye to that stuff----right?
Redrider765
8:14 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
Jealous much pASSkey? Of course Carter's contract was renewed. A certain shrill witch who liked to leak confidential closed door meeting discussions tanked the superintendent search so we knew we would need to make sure Carter stuck around until a new superintendent was found. Nobody wanted to waste looking for a new interim superintendent and a new FT one on top of that.
And of course, the only dissenting vote was the foul witch who tanked the hiring of the guy who was supposed to replace Carter. Guess she wanted Hoboken to have absolutely no superintendent at all.
Mrs Prosbus
9:28 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
you wish you were pupie, how does the landslide victory for Romano feel?
Lane Dastardly
9:51 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
ooo, good one Mrs prosbus, your master puppie must be so proud.keep the change
Andy
3:34 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
Castellano calls someone else "selfish" and Russo used the word "despicable" and wasn't referring to himself, Beth Mason, or his parents? Wow! That takes some cojones. How do these two even show their faces in public?
Lane Dastardly
3:51 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
They are both grotesque no class acts whosse self-awarness is that of a gnat
Passkey
8:53 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012
A little analysis showing the "minimum levy" has been low for the past 6 years: http://tinyurl.com/6on9tls
Khoboken
7:42 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
Oh go annoy some Texans for a while. Really, no one CARES wtf you have to say. The school budget was HUGELY inflated with no show jobs LIKE YOURS! The board can only reduce the budget by a small percentage, so it will take more than a few years to get ti where it should be. NO THANKS TO YOU, asshat. What about the state audit findings? Funny you never seem to mention those. You should crow about how wonderful you are. I bet you give yourself blowjobs, too. Narcissistic pig. You are just another teat sucker clamoring for more of Mama Hoboken's milk.
Mrs Prosbus
9:26 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
the zimmer demons are at it again on this post, Khoboken nobody cares about you on here. Please do us all a favor and go play in traffic.
Lane Dastardly
9:50 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
Mrs prosbus = usual anger issues with alleged paid Mason bloggers
Mrs Prosbus
9:58 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
oh Brian, I mean Lane would you put a pie in your mouth already. Go sell some houses.
Lane Dastardly
10:22 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
Mrs prosbus, why don'tcha lie down and try not to thinnk abbout what a nasty mess your life is
Mrs Prosbus
12:06 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Lane, don't you have an apartment to show someone?
Passkey
9:35 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
Khoboken- you are correct and I know no one cares about what I have to say (why would they, I'm an uneducated dad from Hoboken), but tens of thousands of people do seem interested in what Dr. Petrosino has to say.
A little analysis showing Hoboken tax payers have been paying very close to the "minimum levy" for the past 6 years: http://tinyurl.com/6on9tls
Now, try not to get the last word in, and let's just move on.
Lane Dastardly
9:48 am on Friday, February 3, 2012
Jerk
Khoboken
4:33 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
pASSkey
Your incessant need for validation for whatever you think your not you Petrosino did in Hoboken is irrelevant at this point and frankly boring. Here are facts, you imbecile - Petrosino IS NOT IN HOBOKEN! HE IS IN TEXAS! HE IS NOT COMING BACK! Your incessant blathering about him is indicative of a deep seated emotional or mental disorder. Petrosino is irrelevant in any conversation about Hoboken BOE now or going forward. Its like someone that keeps mentioning the virtues of Michael Dukakis and what a difference the world would be like if he had been elected president while we are talking about the presidential election of 2012. Enough already. Give it up. You are starting to get creepy in your melanchony posing as obsession. And as much lipstick as you want to smear on his accomplishments and his resume, Petrosino will always just be a Hoboken pig feeding at the trough. Paid over 100k while teaching and living in Texas. Dont pee on my leg and tell me that it is raining.
Mrs Prosbus
12:04 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
When will the mayor spin this to look favorable? Are her 2 pool boys dan and juanita still writing her speech for this? Haven't heard from the mayor on this one yet, she must be on CNN again spinning the Snooki denial.
Lane Dastardly
12:12 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
wow mrs pobus, they let you have internet in the rubber rooom now?? don't hurt yourself
Mrs Prosbus
12:51 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
whatever you say Brian, go sell someone a flood prone house would ya
Lane Dastardly
2:53 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
mrs prosbus = imbecile
Reformerus_Gianticus
12:23 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Again this BS maneuver is all about getting school board control back for the old guard. They can then get those patronage jobs back in high gear and steer no bid contracts to their "friends". The City Council minority has no shame and was seeking to do a very undemocratic thing by sneaking in their silly non-binding resolution. The School Board will decide the November election issue on February 14th. That is what is appropriate.
For all those old guard bloggers who criticized Zimmer for endorsing a school board slate you can now eat crow. Your uncivil minority showed their hand and showed they are all about a BOE power grab. Again, if you think Mike Holmes, Michelle Russo and the Callichio brothers aka Gumby and Dopey attend BOE meetings because they care about education I have a bridge to sell you.
Take pot shots all you want about my Freeholder run but I got 1724 votes and spent less than $1 per vote. That is about 1722 votes more than Mr. and Mrs. 1010 Wins would get if they ran for dog catcher.
Passkey
2:53 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Reformerus_Gianticus how does the council minority's introduction of a resolution earlier this week concerning the election dates differ from the idea of "live agenda items" (late minute resolutions) which the Kids First Board of Education introduced to board governance when they took control a few years ago? (i.e. to hire a superintendent) Why are the council minority's motives questioned and ridiculed and yet when "live" items are introduced on the Kids First Board of Ed's agenda it is defended as fair and just and unproblematic? And yet you pontificate about "shame" and actions that are "undemocratic" and of "eating crow" of the council minority???
Eric
3:20 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
That's easy, because everyone thinks that the minority is corrupt. You see anyone else on FBI tapes arraigning a bribe?
Passkey
3:31 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
It's "easy" because you present a logically inconsistent argument--- I am asking specifically what is the difference between a "live" Kids First Board agenda resolution and the resolution that *may* have been introduced at this week's council meeting??? Neither have public notice, neither have been introduced earlier, neither were discussed earlier....what is the difference other than a false assertion of "corruption" on the later but not the former???
Where's Redrider? At least he has a head on his shoulder and presents challenging counter arguments. What is this, take your kids to work day on Patch?
Redrider765
3:36 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
False assertion of corruption? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Tell that to the FBI. They've locked up, investigated or implicated more than a few of those folks for various crimes and they are currently investigating a few more right now. Go ahead and tell them the Russo family is clean as a whistle and watch them fall out of their chairs laughing at you the way I just laughed at you.
Reformerus_Gianticus
3:46 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Passkey- Let me first address your comments on Peter Carter. The Board was right to bring him in on a temporary basis as he was meant to be an interim superintendent. He did clean up a lot of things left hanging by Raslowsky but his abrasive style at times did wear on some good teachers and faculty. No denying it.
Carter's stay might have been much shorter had your gal pal Maureen Sullivan not gone on a jhihad and try to blow up the appointment of Romano. Not only did she try but she succeeded smearing him all over the blogosphere and in my opinion comitting a gross violation of board ethics. Romano got a better job anyway and even though the search took longer the board finally found their man in Toback.
He has a very even keeled disposition. Check.
He is easy to talk to you. Check.
He has a solid background as an educator wtih results. Check.
He has background in Vocational Schooling which fits Hoboken's non-college bound students very nicely. The Professional kitchen could give us the next Buddy.
Toback also knows what projects cost. I went back and forth with him once for about 20 minutes about verious projects and the guy knows his finance as well.
He is honest from what I can tell so far.
His full time salary is not much more than Petrosino made part time from Texas.
This guy has a leg up on Petrosino big time. Vote Kids First Fall 2012. Keep Toback!
I thank Peter Carter for his short term service to Hoboken. Toback for the long term!
Passkey
6:06 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Well, I did suggest you not make this about Dr. Toback vs. Dr. Petrosino but seems like you feel it should be. Fair enough.
Eric
3:37 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Apparently it is, are you having a good time today? Considering the same arguments have been laid out over and over again on this forum and several others I've seen you post on in the past.
You know the answers already, so quit acting like any of this is news to you.
Reformerus_Gianticus
3:57 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
In other words: If you support Toback and a potentially great leader for Hoboken's Schools going forward vote Kids First November 2012.
If you support BOE Patronage jobs for Michelle Russo and her goons like Gumby,a thug-like bus driver on fake diasability and want a guy as Superintendent that wrongly sued the City of Hoboken in a bogus contract lawsuit and lost by all means vote for Frank Pupie Raia's Independents in the Fall. They know how to "Stick it to the Taxpayer" like Anthony Romano.
FYI- When Pupie approached Toback at the League of Municipalities I have been told that not once did he mention a damn thing about education. The Old Guard is short on ideas and once again they have tipped their hand as to their intentions. It's a power grab pure and simple.
The most important thing a board can do is support a good Superintendent. Whether you like them personally or not Kids First at this point is the only option to ensure that going forward.
I look forward to the increased voter turnout in November. I sure hope the FBI will be watching things closely
Mrs Prosbus
4:16 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
FBI is gone, never coming back and they get a great laugh around the water cooler when people bring up all you Zimmer Kool Aid drinkers. The ship has sailed and you're stuck believing it didn't.
puzzledone
4:20 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Yes, mrs. P, of course. They just charged Ricciardi with sending emails to two people and then forgot completely to follow up on those two people. This after spending countless man hours and digging through thousands of emails. Hey, can I sell you a bridge?
ThisMeansWar
4:27 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Hey I get that Lane & Kim have to take the day off once in a while. But did they have to send a complete moron to fill in?
Redrider765
4:33 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Beth picked a complete moron to be her puppet in the 4th ward so why can't she pick a complete moron to be her puppet on patch?
Mrs Prosbus
4:38 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
No day offs here, no fill ins either folks. In fact let me share with you a little secret. You can say whatever you want about my husband and I and it goes in one eye and out the other. The more you verbally attack us the bigger a smile we get on our faces. Just like Mrs Mason, she loves the attention good forbad because it's attention, it's keyword hits. Same thing for us, keep it coming, you're wasting your time and making us feel happier, publicity good or bad is cherished. You zimmer honky tonks, the 4 of you out here with 5 names each. Everyone reads you and laughs at you. Kurta, Brice, Pinkass or Pincus however its spelled, Kempf with an occasional 2 or 3 others chiming in. 2014 going to be a sad year when Ruben running this town and Dawn is back to taking pictures at weddings.
Khoboken
5:09 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Ruben - HA! He stuck his foot in his mouth recently and wedged it so far down he can wipe with his toes. And his future does not look bright. So much for what you know,
Eric
5:21 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Obvious Troll is obvious.
The greatest gift to any reasonable person who wants to be informed about any particular politician is Google. So keep talking about Mason and keep pointing out the facts online complete with links to published stories, and video clips. Google results will do the rest.
I love these guys, they're like a bunch of little pocket Glenn Becks. So adorable, stamping their little feets. Awwwww. Look at how cranky they are! Who needs a nap? Huh? Yeah, that's right YOU do!
Lane Dastardly
5:52 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Mrs prosbus is amusing, but a little too out of the loop for any really good laughable inaccuracies. The angry short fuse is good for some yuks though
ThisMeansWar
5:55 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Mrs Braindead - a few quick notes.
They're called "days off" not "day offs."
It's "in one EAR and out the other," not eye.
Kemph never blogs.
There is no election in 2014.
Good lord what an idiot.
Grafix Avenger
7:24 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Mrs. Prosbus, not only have your comments shown that you are not 'plugged-in', they show you'll never fill Maurice's shoes, not even close. And you are not the man, nor never will be the man that he was, with the political gifts that he had.
And as much as you are trying to raise your profile over here, you lack the intelligence and the skills to be the player you aspire to be. Your obsession with Horsey and other bloggers is strange, as is your hopping from moniker to moniker.
You are a weirdo.
And a punchline- your County friends call you 'Mr. Hoover'. You really ought to pack it in and do something you're good at.
Basket weaving? Hopscotch?
http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/
Grafix Avenger
4:36 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
GA's got the dish on what preceded the walk-out.
Hint: the dimmest bulb on the tree.
http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/02/exclusive-what-really-went-down.html
gettheledout44
5:15 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
correct me if i'm wrong stincus, but i bet you wouldn't hide in the bathroom at a planning board meeting if you didn't have the majority vote, wouldja?
Khoboken
5:21 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
He is such a gift - everlasting idiocy for the merriment of reform.
Grafix Avenger
6:55 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
"stincus"? Is that the best you can do? Jeez, you're dumb.
gettheledout44
5:09 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
hey giant, toback fired 2 of the best teachers in hoboken. no one is going to forget that. irene sobolov bragged about being invited to paula's house with her kids and then she fired paula cause paula invited kids to her house. huh? and she's the smartest of all the kf people.
and please explain why enrollment keeps dropping if kf has done such a great job? is it because irene won't send her own kid to hoboken high even if she's the biggest cheerleader? guess if you can pull strings you can get pass the other 1500 kids applying to high tech high and get your kid in. how do you spell hypocrite?
Khoboken
5:30 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Thankfully you have yet to spawn, so why talk about the BOE and matters of which you know nothing. But then again, you dont live here and that has never stopped you before from making a complete imbecile of yourself, Finboy, like the time you tried to plant the story with Sullivabitch that a certain someone left a Hoover at your door? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What a tool. What a law school drop out tool. What a live with mommy and daddy in Weehawken got fired by Mayor Turner lost my website Hudson Shark tool.
Lane Dastardly
8:13 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
getttheleadout44 = insane Mason talkingg point comments + bad writtting
Mrs Prosbus
5:56 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
The real spin on this meeting is on 411 right now, the video is pretty rock solid for king kool aid maker zimmer not answering questions and running away. Will roman brice spin this as part of his $8 allowance a month from you fools? 8 x 3 people equals 24 bucks, wow a real money maker. Lane Dastardly, suck it biotch
Lane Dastardly
6:00 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
I don't know whicch is funnier, the trash talk, the inacuurrate information or the citing of 411 as anything but Mason garbage
ThisMeansWar
6:03 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
411 has an assisted living demographic at this point and not much of that.
PS. "real spin" is an oxymoron, moron. Have Beth explain that to you.
Khoboken
9:27 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
"real spin" ROTFLMAO. No wonder this idiot flunked out of law school.
hobokenhorse.com
9:22 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012
Well thanks for the mention Mrs Prosbus. Monthly sales continue to flourish. As for your request, someone did send over the Mason trash and so let's dedicate this story to the Weehawken annual subscriber MSV has grown to love:
http://www.hobokenhorse.com/2012/02/michael-russo-yells-at-mayor-zimmer-on.html
Thank you again for supporting MSV. Have a nice day Mrs Prosbus.
Passkey
6:08 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Reformerus_Gianticus- take a look at this once you've completed your praise for Kids First and for Peter Carter: http://tinyurl.com/6o2shp6
franksinatra
9:11 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
RG -- you're far off the mark on Toback. How can you argue that he should stay on as super after he fired two of our best teachers? He's dug a hole for himself so deep he'll never get out. He lost all credibility in this town and made himself an instant lame duck. There's no doubt that the Pupie ticket will let him go after the election and good riddance. The district will not make any progress until he's gone. Petro has many weaknesses but will he be any worse than Toback, Rusak or Carter? The district has gone completely backwards under Kids First, to the regret of all of us who supported them--taxes are up and scores are way way down. So after three years it's probably time to give another group a chance. Maybe Pupie has learned something during his years off the board. He can't do worse than KF.
And RG -- don't fall for the line that if you let the machine back in, the patronage mill will go into full gear. Check the latest audit report that was released at a recent meeting. Student enrollment way down under KF but the number of staff is up by almost 10%.
And you can moan about Romano, but check what he's up to now -- caught up in a cheating scandal at his new district. Hoboken dodged that bullet.
Hoboken Answer
9:30 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Why the thread hijack for two administrators? How will Maureen Sullivan vote on the 14th? Will she choose to save taxpayers real money or will she vote with the Machine in the hopes they carry her on their voter fraud ticket that exploits the minority community in the HHA?
Guess the answer is Maureen already kissing up to Pupie?
Will Maureen Sullivan be earning his support by collecting fraudulent ballots in the HHA?
Back to your character assassination on Romano already Maureen? Was Romano convicted of anything? Has he been indicted or even arrested.
How low will Maureen Sullivan go to keep sitting (and doing nothing) on the BoE?
Disgraceful.
p1ywood
9:40 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
For goodness sake, for starters Ohaus basically was fired for insubordination. Why would you spin that as bad management? It had to be done for the good of the institution and it's ability not to have insurance exposures. The ad-nauseum repeating of debunked talking point based blogging on here is ridiculous. Mr Raia is now hopelessly conflicted with his side-deals for construction. He has no business getting involved in any ticket.
Reformerus_Gianticus
10:29 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Frank Sinatra- One of those two teachers had threatened to resign one year, resign and rescind it over the last two election seasons in a prima donna power grab involving students on Facebook. Good riddance. We need the drama on stage not in the classroom. The district is much bigger than any two teachers. I know of one child that is thriving in a gifted and talented program is doing great. Under previous administrations I do not know of one case where tenure was denied. It should not be automatic. Toback is decisive and teachers going forward know they have to produce to get tenure. Ohaus can be someone else's headache. She won't last wherever she is. Her ego is too big.
How is staff up 10%? please explain. The tax levy is as low as it can go under state formula. If staff costs were up 10% that would be an issue but that is not the case. The budget has not been finalized yet.
As far as Romano, tell Maureen to stop hating on people she suspects are homosexual. She should show some tolerance but then again she ran a far right wing Republican slate that had candidates that looked up to Sarah Palin. What was the name of that slate again. Oh yeah, "turd in a punchbowl", Oh sorry "Unreal Results". Nice turd place finish for Maureen's Right Wing Marauders backed by Money Bags Mason's Hubby Ricky .
Reformerus_Gianticus
10:32 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
I at least do appreciate your honesty as to motive for Frank and his people to get rid of Toback. I have now flushed that out for all to see. What will your pal Maureen " the lying nun" do for an encore. Remember Carmello, Fran and Maureen all voted for Toback. They just voted his agenda in 9-0. If they have complaints they should be airing them now. If not they are being disingenuous.
ThisMeansWar
11:23 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
FrankSullivan, the other Frank is still conducting himself like a major felon and you damn well know it. One vote buying operation after another, making an absolute joke of democracy in this city. The only thing that makes it worse is when clowns like you deflect that he hasn't been arrested yet so that means everything is just fine. But that measuring stick we can conclude that Al Capone was only guilty of tax evasion, because that's all he was ever arrested for.
When you vote for April elections, which you are guaranteed to do, you will be showing that you value cheating and a rigged game over democracy. So take your "maybe Frank has changed" schtick and stuff it up your ample derriere.
Enough
1:28 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012
I can't help but notice that when franksinatra points out that the superintendent that Kids First wanted to hire for Hoboken is in the middle of a cheating scandal in his new district (there are news stories that confirm this and say his district is under investigation by the state DOE), Hoboken Answer calls it "character assasination", but when ThisMeansWar says Frank {Raia} "conduct{s] himself like a real fellon" and accuses him of vote buying, that's OK.
ThisMeansWar
8:13 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012
I said "major felon." Pay attention.
Why don't draw us up an new and enchanting explanation for how Tim Occhipinti wound up with 575 paid "workers" but no votes were bought although hundreds of the "workers" showed up on vbm lists. That works out to just under 1 worker for every 2 votes.
I'll jump ahead to the subterfuge that no one has been arrested (yet) and remind you of the analogy to Al Capone, whose only crime appears to be income tax evasion. By your way of thinking, that must be all Al ever did.
I didn't assassinate Raia's character, he did. You assassinated your own.
Redrider765
8:41 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012
You know what I don't get? How Maureen Sullivan could even covertly aligned herself w/ people like the Russos, their backers or their allies. What self respecting Republican would do that? Or is it that she is like Mason, all she cares about is winning and damn the consequences or the means used to win.
ThisMeansWar
8:58 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012
Fake republicans get along fine with fake democrats. All they want out of party affiliation is a path to the teat. Whenever there's a choice between some stated principle of the party and self-interest, the stated principle has zero chance. That goes for all of them.
Khoboken
9:25 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Look - Big Mo is back in all her fingerprinted glory!
Outofcontrol
11:20 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012
Grafix Avenger commented on the article Meeting Cancelled At Last Minute After Councilmembers Leave City Hall
"Sister Maureen 'franksinatra' Sullivan, how about saying Vespers for your future on the School Board? Word's been out for some time that you're running with Raia. How does it feel to sell out? Other than a handful of loyalists, you're perceived 'out there' as 'unstable' and you've left quite a trail of letters, emails and postings. Under monikers like 'franksinatra'. Whose fingerprints are on file at the NJDOE? ..." I don't know why this post of hers was deleted, but folks should see it.
GA is once again showing her penchant for religious bigotry. She attempts to insult Ms. Sullivan by likening her to a nun and mocking the use of morning Vespers. I for one am outraged by the continued actions of GA relative to her apparent dislike for catholics. Her position on the St. Patty's parade and now her infusion of religion into her discussion about a council meeting is disconcerting. Many good people were educated by the good nuns and I'm sure they would be upset to see this kind of thing.
hobokenhorse.com
11:38 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012
Understand OOC your desperation with the bitterness running at wit's end but the attempt to sully Grafix Avenger as being anti-Catholic is frankly silly. Much of your screeds usually are but this one earns a rebuttal.
GA has no "apparent dislike for Catholics." In fact she calls them her brothers and sisters when she salutes their holidays and of course she's extended same to me, a Catholic.
GA is riffing on possible NJ DoE confusion on which Maureen Sullivan's fingerprints they actually have on file. But you already knew that.
If you want to defend us Catholics, you might start with using a capital c.
Hobbs
12:07 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
Trying to breed hate and division in Hoboken has been job one for Mason. Russo & Co. and as more and more positive things are being accomplished by the Zimmer Administration the more shrill and desperate their hate becomes.
Redrider765
12:09 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
I am guessing OOC didn't see copies of the emails where the state said they had some nun by the name of Maureen Sullivan on file but they didn't have Big Mo's greasy prints on file. That would explain OOC's most recent uninformed and completely clueless comments.
Grafix Avenger
12:24 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
Yoo hoo, what an IDIOT you are... oh yeah, honey. Like THAT accusation's gonna work for you.
Drop ELMO and pay attention.
Carl Carablelli NJDOE Criminal Hisotry Review Unit MANAGER indicates Hoboken's Maureen Sullivan's fingerprints are co-mingled with Newark's SISTER Maureen Sullivan's fingerprints. Yes, a NUN. So, Hoboken's Sullivan can tell us whether this was a subterfuge or... well? How did her case Manager confuse a NUN with our Sullivan unless... he was directed to her?
OOC you better quit your ELMO-luvin' and read up because you and your ilk will have to explain this:
http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/01/two-maureen-sullivans.html
But you KNEW that, since you ops read my site religiously. Now that you bring it up, Sullivan needs to say some prayers as the clock runs out on her BoE tenure.
Lane Dastardly
12:24 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
Anyone running with Raia is a puppet clown on the payroll.
ThisMeansWar
12:31 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
Outofideas,
1) Saying the annual Saint Patricks fiasco has anything whatever to do with the Catholic Church is in and of itself an anti-Catholic comment.
2) You're an idiot.
Grafix Avenger
12:51 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
Thanks all of you who answered this profane ELMO-luvin' witch.
She and her ilk's constant anti-Semitic references to the Mayor's Jewish spouse as 'blood diamonds' make her effort stir up religious hatred laughable, as well as her fake sanctimony. What a pig.
Check out the bizarre story of the co-mingling of Hoboken's Maureen Sullivan and Sister Maureen Sullivan, the nun, at the NJDOE.
http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/01/two-maureen-sullivans.html
Outofcontrol
12:11 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
I didn't see any letter mocking Vespers. I did see GA doing that though.
Lane Dastardly
12:22 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
More made upp garbage. I don't think the Vatican is giving your syncopphants in irrespponsibilty known as the council minority any clean bill of health.
Grafix Avenger
12:25 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
Moron. You're spending too much time with ELMO.
http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/01/two-maureen-sullivans.html
Khoboken
1:00 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
OCC you out of control anti semitic gutter snipe. You keep making anti-semitic regerences in yoru posts her about the mayor beign supported by blood diamonds and other not so sublte refences to reinforce the disgusting anti semtiic steroptype that Jews are bloodthirsty diamond dealers and behind the atrocities and genocide involed in the illicit diamond trade. Even that despicable Weasel with an Easel gave up posting under the name Blood DIamonds after he was thoroughly trashed for using that screen anme. For you to now call GA ant-Catholic is beyond the pale and reveals you to all as the moronic self absorbed asshat that you are. In the deceidely off chance that you dont know just how vile and vicious your references are, I have no inclination to educate you by chapter and verse. Get yourself to the library, talk to your priest or a rabbi and inform yourself. What an effing disgusting piece of trash you are. The wafer must burn a hole though your hand, you evil shrew.
Lane Dastardly
2:34 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
Outofcontrol is a hater Mason and Russo operativve tool who says what he is told to say, rationnal or not. just garbage
Passkey
6:06 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
Reformerus_Gianticus- here's some data you may have overlooked in your blind and uncritical praise for Kids First and Peter Carter: http://tinyurl.com/6o2shp6
gettheledout44
6:27 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
time to remind everyone of how stincus made headlines in the NJ Jewish News for using Nazi imagery to attack her political opponents.
HOBOKEN POL APOLOGIZES FOR NAZI ANALOGY
read this story just to hear stincus the hoboken pol talk about how on the one hand she's a "targeted artist and satirist" but then backs off and admits she's just a nobody. "I am a stay-at-home mom, and the blog is something I do for fun" .
and here's another favorite "I do a lot of good things for people in my city,"
someone deeply wounded this puppy to make her such a hater. michael vick treated his pitbulls better than someone treated stincus along the way.
she also says that "There was no conscious decision of producing something that was Nazi or fascist.”
so her other excuse is that she's brain dead not to know that picture was Nazi imagery. i don't have to call her stupid - she did that herself.
http://njjewishnews.com/article/2529/hoboken-pol-apologizes-for-nazi-analogy#.TyxnusVSR14
Grafix Avenger
6:38 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
POLICE ARREST LANE BAJARDI FOR ASSAULT AT SCHOOL BOARD FORUM
BAJARDI CHARGED WITH ROBBERY
Hoboken police have made an arrest on a warrant issued for Lane Bajardi, a local politically involved Hoboken resident. The arrest came after he was accused of having assaulted a local blogger at a Board of Education forum a week ago.
Bajardi was charged with robbery because the victim had his camera taken by Bajardi. The police noted that the arrest was based largely on the victim's testimony, and that it will be heard in court. It also may be downgraded to a disorderly persons offense, police said.
The police put out a press release saying:
The complainant is a 46-year-old Hoboken resident who alleged that on April 12, 2010 while attending a Hoboken Board of Education candidate’s forum at Stevens College, Mr. Bajardi, [allegedly] knocked him to the ground, assaulted him, and took his digital camera. The victim further stated he had to follow Mr. Bajardi to obtain his camera back before Mr. Bajardi [allegedly] destroyed it. Based on the statement provided, Mr. Bajardi was charged with robbery.
http://www.hudsonreporter.com/view/full_story/7140972/article--Police-arrest-made-in-alleged-incident-at-Board-of-Education-forum-
Lane Dastardly
6:32 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
mrs prosbus = getttheleadout44 = Mason operativve
Redrider765
6:40 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
How about you remind everyone that Nancy is Jewish while you are at it and that Mason lies through her teeth, funds vote buying, is aligned w/ corrupt politicians, has a serious problem w/ envy b/c she seems to think she should be mayor instead of a CC member and she is about as crooked as a barrel of fish hooks.
gettheledout44
6:48 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
stincus, are you the same nancy pincus who posted this on democraticunderground.com with an upside down American flag when bush beat kerry...
"I am extremely angry and depressed. Hopefully I can eventually put this in a perspective that I can live with, but the pain is great now. I had such high hopes for a Kerry administration and was yearning for Bushco to suffer the humiliation of defeat. I was praying for other countries to see that we weren't a nation of ignoramuses and lunatics."
EXTREMELY ANGRY AND DEPRESSED...some things never change. try yoga or something honey
gettheledout44
6:49 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
stincus, are you the same nancy pincus who posted this on democraticunderground.com with an upside down American flag when bush beat kerry...
"I am extremely angry and depressed. Hopefully I can eventually put this in a perspective that I can live with, but the pain is great now. I had such high hopes for a Kerry administration and was yearning for Bushco to suffer the humiliation of defeat. I was praying for other countries to see that we weren't a nation of ignoramuses and lunatics."
EXTREMELY ANGRY AND DEPRESSED...some things never change. try yoga or something honey
Redrider765
6:55 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
Does your boss over at 1010loses know you are playing politics again? Give it up Lame. You not only backed a loser, you backed a liar.
Grafix Avenger
7:01 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
It's time to follow up on my communication with Ben.
gettheledout44
7:21 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
angry and depressed - too bad, so sad. maybe zumba's the answer
Grafix Avenger
7:41 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
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gettheledout44
10:20 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
sorry stincus, there are a lot of other angry and depressed people in hoboken but you are the only one who would think of going to a guy's boss to complain about posts that you think he wrote (which he didn't cause I'm not him). you know your pals lenz and stan are reading this and thinking you have gone too far. they may even think about contacting you and telling you to dial it back but they are afraid you will go after them in your anger and depression.
All I did was quote you...you are the one who says you are an angry and depressed stay at home fun blogging mom who doesn't know when she's using Nazi imagery. own it.
ThisMeansWar
10:36 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
Stincus? Are you 10? Did mommy say you could use the computer? You're a ahole. Own it.
Grafix Avenger
7:13 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012
Listen getheledout44 Baracato , don't know where you're pulling your "angry and depressed" quotes from but I'm guessing it's the same source who tipped you off that I'd left a vacuum cleaner at your Weehawken home.
You, Bajardi and his shrew share monikers and thus share responsibility. Too bad so sad.
Oh yeah, no problem reporting that someone who works for CBS- the corporate owner of 1010WINS- is a partisan political operative. Media bias? Media trying to influence local politics? Scandalous! James, if you had ethics, you'd get it.
It's my duty as a member of the Fourth estate to report this scandal!
As far as mumbling about Stan and Lenz, that IS the Barracato calling card. So is threatening one's county job- ring a bell, idiot?
Don't be too pleased with yourself, you're a Hudson County joke. Folks call you a 'Hoover' behind your back. Only employable by Beth Mason, Hoover Man. I guess you've shown up because the Melanomas were scared off, and needed the protection of a Bad Seed from "those cyber-bully meanies!"
Yeah you're 'bad'. HAW HAW
http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/02/dangerous-dumb-inatrix.html
Lane Dastardly
7:38 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012
what a joke. this getthelead out 44 barraccatto guy is the one who stinks at blogging. anger issues, stoopid jokes
gettheledout44
5:42 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012
angry and depressed and shrill.
funny how when you're under the Jewish News investigation you're just a sniveling stay at home mom who has a fun blog. but when the spotlight is off you are a vicious hag who calls herself a member of the fourth estate (i.e. the media).
Grafix Avenger
8:55 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012
Earwitness News Report- the latest move to violate the Open Public Meetings Act brought to you by.... who else?
http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/02/earwitness-news-report.html
C.Harrison
10:16 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012
Mr rossi
I'm try to teach my 3 year old to oppologize for mistakes. Then she gets forgiven. I'm teaching her fix her mistakes.
Have the Russos ever apologized? Have they made restitution?
C.Harrison
10:18 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012
Sorry posting from a mobile device. No useful spellcheck.
ThisMeansWar
10:42 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012
Don't sweat the typos. A new authentic voice is always welcome.
Outofcontrol
11:11 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012
Until she disagrees with you, at which point you will chew her up.
ThisMeansWar
11:52 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012
1) I have no problem with principled disagreement. I have no principled disagreements with you.
2) You're an idiot.
Khoboken
12:20 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012
OOC, you vulgar anti Semitic STD petri dish. I actually am beginning to think that you are so effing dumb that you dont comprehend just how vile you are.
Redrider765
12:49 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012
K - I long ago came to the conclusion that OOC came from a very shallow and very base gene pool.
Outofcontrol
12:36 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012
Pointing out your nasty, vile insults to Catholic prayer doesn't make me anti-semitic, it makes you a vile individual.
Lane Dastardly
4:38 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012
quit kidding. outofcontrol is long established of intollerant of any one not BnRr or not tied into the olld Guards
Ian Rintel
5:30 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012
Making this a ballot question seems to be the right thing to do - but I don't think this is the issue.
Near as I can see it - two undeniable facts exist about this incident.
1) Two councilmembers left a meeting to prevent there being a quorum.
2) Four councilmembers attempted to pass a resolution which would only pass because of the absense of three of their fellow councilmembers.
I do not know government very well - or how the city council voting works, but it seems to me that in no case should resolutions be adopted or ordinances be passed by taking advantage of absenses. Would this resolution pass if there was full attendance? While it is a shame that members of the city council were absent - taking advantage of this absense is reprehensible.
I do not know what any of you do professionally - but could you imagine if you called in sick one day and came back to find out all sorts of decisions were made which would never have been made had you been present? Are our duly elected city councilpeople required to never have an absense lest law be passed contrary to their position?
ThisMeansWar
6:03 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012
School board budget is $59million. A lot of patronage to be doled out if you control the school board. Right now a reform group holds a one vote lead on the BOE. It will be much harder for the old guard to unseat them if elections are in November. Elections in April have 10-15% turnout and very simply are easier and cheaper to buy.
More than anything in this world the old guard fears voter turnout. They ran screaming from it on city council elections. Only with the BOE they have fewer options. They saw one and made a run for it.
That's what we're dealing with. Democratic representatives who fear democracy.
Jabberwock
6:14 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012
Ian: talk about being on point from start to finish. I think you summed the whole thing up exactly.
C.Harrison
6:53 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012
Great post Ian.
p1ywood
7:11 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012
Mr Rintel certainly has a clarity on this dynamic, but to delve a bit deeper:
1. The City Council has no authority over the Board of Education yet this proposed resolution would suggest otherwise. This is solely a B of E matter.
2. As Mr Rintel points out, the whole concept of introducing this resolution was to circumvent the will of a full council vote. That is why the resolution was introduced by the Council Minority members (Mr Occhipinti and Ms Castelanno) as "emergency", so it would take full effect immediately and without further review. It was know that Majority Council members would be absent in sufficient numbers to allow it to pass where it would otherwise fail. There was no "emergency" since the election in question was months away. Just desperate, sneaky politics.
3. I don't believe anyone has any problem bringing this to a referendum, just do so in a November election when there is reliably sufficient voter turnout to suppress long suspected intrigue of voter irregularities when the turnout is small and swayable. The resolution in question would not have achieved that. That needed accountability, I suspect, is what is feared by the Minority and drove them to such a desperate, underhanded act.
Jabberwock
8:03 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012
P1y: I didn't read the resolution - did it state when the public vote would happen, i.e. - as part of the next election, which would be November, no? Or would it be on the BOE election?
I also agree with you that, that the city council doesn't belong anywhere in this equation, but isn't that what the law that Christie signed said was one of the 3 ways that the BOE election could be moved to Nov?
Lastly, how is an election moved by resolution? I thought elections had to be moved via ordinance. Does anybody have an explanation on this? Elections are held by law...aren't ordinances, not resolutions, our laws? The "problem" we have with elections is one thing, but is our gov and our elected representatives in Trenton playing a little underhanded politics here too? Sincere question, I support the move of this BOE election to November, and would vote for that given the choice. I'd also like to think the citizens of Hoboken would vote for the change too...those who care. The BOE is such a forgotten election sitting where it is. I wish the election fraud issues would somehow get addressed. I'd always like to see the people vote on stuff like this cause you never know who will be in power tomorrow. I do have concerns about elections in general, but it's awful when you can't trust the vote on issues right in your own back yard and that's what we've got here.
p1ywood
10:38 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012
Jabberwock, I believe it goes something like this, but I am not 100% certain on the finer points. Yes, Governor Christie set 3 different mechanisms to move school board elections. Each could be used to vote to move it to November, but not to NOT move it to November (pardon the double negative but I am in something of a hurry now). One way is by voter referendum, one is by the school board and the third is by a citys council. In the case of the council I believe it has to be by ordinance, not by resolution, which is the way it was attempted to be done this past Wednesday. So probably what was attempted was not illegal, it was just not going to be binding per se because the council did not attempt to do it as required, by ordinance. Hope this helps, but I am not a final authority.
Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled program:
YO!!!! "SUPER" GIANTS ROCK THE HOUSE!!!!!
pied piper
7:28 am on Monday, February 6, 2012
Agree with P1y, any one of 3 entities may MOVE the boe election to Nov. If one of the 3 votes to MOVE the election- it gets moved ( njsba.org ). One Yes vote to Move the elections cannot be circumvented by any of the other 2 entities. This whole escapade was pure grandstanding /politics.
Re: No quorum-There seems to be a few hypocrites amongst the minority bunch...fromJuly 15, 2008 Hoboken
Tonight's Board of Education meeting has been canceled because they couldn't get the five (out of nine) trustees needed to make up a quorum.
Board members Rose Marie Markle, Carrie Gilliard, Theresa Minutillo and Anthony Romano were all able to make it.
But a family medical emergency caused President Frances Rhodes-Kearns to cancel at the last minute (her daughter broke an arm) and James Farina is ill, said Board Secretary David Anthony.
Carmelo Garcia, Frank Raia and Phil DeFalco are all out of town on vacation.
Reporter...http://www.nj.com/hobokennow/index.ssf/2008/07/board_of_education_meeting_ton_2.html
HobokenLeaks
7:59 am on Monday, February 6, 2012
"The focus of the Board of Ed elections should be on what is best for the schools, for the kids who attend them and for the parents and taxpayers who support them.... Too much politicization of the Board of Ed race has already occurred during this election cycle, and I do not wish to contribute to what, I believe, is an undermining of the Board of Ed’s purpose."
-Beth Mason
Redrider765
8:56 am on Monday, February 6, 2012
The purpose of the BOE is not so vote buyers can pass out jobs, sweetheart contracts and other favors to their BFFs so how about you stop aligning yourself w/ the vote buyers who want to turn the BOE back into a patronage mill so it can actually focus on educating children. It is the people you back who wish to undermine the BOE's purpose.
BTW, seriously, you want to stop politicizing things now? You, the woman who has spent a fortune spewing out your lies, distortions, half-truths and misinformation on every contentious topic out there, you now want to stop politicizing things? How about you put your checkbook away then. No more paying your PR team to post online all the time. No more money for junk mailers every time you are in a snit over something. No more TV ads. No more hiring cameramen to film meetings around town to provide you w/ stock footage for your PR attacks. So you, the person who now wants to stop politicizing things, how about you just put your money where your mouth is and just stop your antics completely. You see Beth, it is you who is responsible for completely polarizing this town with your nastiness and with all the money you fling about. Just stop already if you want to stop politicizing things b/c you are the one politicizing everything!.
Lane Dastardly
9:30 am on Monday, February 6, 2012
Bet Mazin = embarrasment to herr family esp unfortunatte children. will never be mayor with her lies. dope
Hobbs
9:43 am on Monday, February 6, 2012
Again, at the same time as Mrs. Mason was issuing this statement about the BOE, Mr. Mason was flooding the BOE elections with money. :-)
Eric
9:30 am on Monday, February 6, 2012
Lane Dastardly, you know, there is such a thing as going too far.
Eric
9:32 am on Monday, February 6, 2012
Well I am glad you had enough sense to delete the comment I was referring to.
Outofcontrol
9:50 am on Monday, February 6, 2012
Oh please, why weren't any of you outraged when your girl Zimmer held fundraisers all over town for her Kids First puppets? Weren't the robo calls she made evidence of her desire to interfere in BOE affairs? Why is it ok when Zimmer infuses money into a campaign, but bad when someone else does it? The double standard used by you guys is sickening.
ThisMeansWar
10:02 am on Monday, February 6, 2012
1) BETH wrote the letter about staying out of BOE affairs, then went on to fund a BOE ticket and attempt to use the city council to take the election day option away from the BOE.
2) You're an idiot.
Redrider765
10:03 am on Monday, February 6, 2012
Yes, the basic problem w/ Beth is she again revealed herself to be a two faced liar. The only double standard was Beth's. She seems to think it is fine for her and her bottomless checkbook to be involved in the BOE elections but nobody else in city government can take a stand on the BOE race. She is the one w/ the double standard.
And completely agree, OOC has again revealed a stunning lack of intellect that can best be described as idiotic.
Redrider765
9:55 am on Monday, February 6, 2012
Zimmer never lied about supporting Kids First or her involvement in trying to help get reformers elected. Mason did lie. You may not care that she lied but then again since when did you ever support anyone who was honest?