I agree with you 100%. This is bad politics. www.firebrandcentral.com

I love kids, but agree that this town is taking the "Think of the Children" mentality too far. We need a mayor who is childless, dogless, and who likes to drive a car.

Agreed, this is all around pretty stupid. Anyone hanging out at a playground has kids. If they want to smoke outside near their kid, let them. If a parent has a problem w/ another parent smoking near their child, tell them to grow a spine and speak up.

And then we get rid of the books that we don't like or want anyone else to read!

EXACTLY

lol I dont they have anything to do with it, and its the nanny's that hog up the tree rooted infested sidewalks..
Should we pick on them too, property owners that refuse to fix the sidewalks because the tree was there when they bgt the 3.2 Million dollar brownstone, did I mention they dont even salt the 2 x 4 sidewalk either while we are on sidewalks..

Agree - this is going too far, but, my understanding is that, at least they made it just around the play areas and in the dog runs. Other park areas do not prohibit smoking even if there is a dog run or kiddie play area in the park. Of course, I hope that that's clear in the ordinance and the council members supporting this also make it clear. Since we know that it'll pass because we totally are in the nanny/police/control everything & everybody state here in Hoboken, I'm glad they toned the idiocy back a bit.

How is your asthma bothered by someone smoking 5-10 feet away from you?

People who think that they are bothered remind me of a girl I went to college with. Suffice it to say she had to be moved to a handicapped room in a non-smoking dorm so that she could shut the smoke out b/c of her asthma. Funny thing is, she had no problem going to bars and drinking all night while people smoked. She didn't have the smoke issues she thought she did. I think for most people smoking is just gross so they have "health reasons" for needing to be away from it.

Get over it.

And smoking is one of the reasons I didn't go out to bars much. It is why I stopped going to some restaurants. If they are close enough for me to breath their smoke it is a problem.

So you want the right to smoke anywhere outside, and I should just stay inside with the windows closed.

I don't think your right to smoke should interfere with my need to breath.

Someone I used to know used to ask smokers if it was ok to piss or spit in their drink, while the smoker was smoking in the air they had to breath.

You can breath elsewhere. Move 5 feet over and you will be fine.

Journey - I've never smoked. I'll never smoke. I find it disgusting. But it's legal. So yea, people should be allowed to do it outside as it disburses.

Most people who say their health is at risk because of 2nd hand smoke (especially when outdoors) are full of crap. Smokey bar - sure, I get it. But it's not like you're in a bar improving your health. It's not a gym.

So if I'm in part of the park because that gives me the best vantage point to supervise a child, I should move in order to not breath the fumes. Which might mean I have to ask the child to stop playing on the equipment they were using.

The right to swing your fist ends at my nose. Why should the right to smoke not also end where it can affect other people.

Have any of you had asthma for the last 30 years? Do you know about the different types, such as exertion induced, allergy induced, etc? I know what things trigger my asthma, cigaret smoke is one thing, lysol is ever worse. I can't be in the same room where lysol has been sprayed. I even picked my daughter's daycare based partially on how often that stuff is sprayed.

Since smoking, while not illegal, is not required to keep on living, while breathing is, I would like to not have to rearrange my activities around the activities of smokers.

Count your blessings, in NYC there is no smoking in parks and beaches, you are less restricted in Hoboken.

Yes, you move 5 feet over or you ask the smoker to move. Grow up Journey. The world doesn't revolve around you and we shouldn't have to tailor laws to suit the needs of hypochondriacs. And seriously, if you are so sensitive that you can't handle a wiff of smoke outside then might I suggest you invest in a bubble to live in b/c I somehow doubt you can handle the exhaust of a lawn mower, a bus or truck or even the scent of a backyard grill.

What next, we going to ban peanut butter in city parks? How about we ban dogs that aren't hypoallgerenic too?

You are aware how some smokers react to being asked to move? Oh like the lot of you. Now when I ask a smoker to move and they give me rude lip, I can politely tell them about the law. If they are still rude, I can tell them that they can move or I can call the police.

I will take a smoker w/ attitude over a hypochondriac any day of the week.

So is your asthma unaffected by the car exhaust & poor air quality in Hoboken? If not, then I find it hard to believe smoke has some effect on you.
Regardless, I'm pretty sure that with all your maladies you'd have survived without modern medicine.

If I was in small sealed room with a running car, sure, everyone would be, it is a form of suicide. But the average day to day exposure, no.

High ozone bugs me, I check the ozone levels before going for a run.

Have you every wanted to tell the person on the elevator that they don't have to bathe in perfume? Don't you dislike that they make the elevator uncomfortable for everyone else? Why should everyone else be at the mercy of people who have no consideration for others?

You can still smoke in the park, just not in the places where people might be able to move away from you because they are taking care of someone or doing something that can only be done in my part of the park.

The Bloomberg ban on sodas is stupid and different, if you want to do something unhealthy that only affects you, go for it. But you are not the only person breathing the cancerous fumes.

You're contaminating MY air with YOUR car exhaust.

I don't drive. I choose not to drive because with my vision while it is legal for me to drive, I know it would put other people at risk.

I'm sorry if I leave by standards that you can't but I don't like when people put my life at risk. I judge people by the standards by which I live.

So true !

So true

Journey - we ALL know you don't drive. You say it all the time. My post is directed at HT

Again, I don't smoke and never have. I just feel people are infringing on the rights of smokers.

Well I've had to deal with smokers infringing on my right, no need, to breath. Smoking is optional, breathing is not.

Watch the average smoker, they have very little consideration for others, who has to breath in their fumes, or the mess they leave when the drop their butts on the street, or the empty packs. Sure there are smokers out that they that are considerate of others. I knew someone that kept a recycled baby food jar to put her ash and butts in. When hanging out with a group of people in the park always asked before she lit up. How many people do you know like that?

If smokers had a history of being considerate of others I don't think so many non-smokers would be happy about these laws.

And NYC has become a wonderful place under Bloomberg's reign. I guess graft and corruption are more appealing to you.

So says the media sponsor for Beth Mason's transparently cynical fake county charity.

How are the City's lawyers helping the mayor win reelection? By winning cases? How about the planners? By creating plans for balanced development?

You really need to reread your posts before hitting send. Use this standard - would a third grader reading my post be able to to make me look like an idiot by pointing out my incoherent nonsense. If the answer is yes then perhaps you should consider hitting delete instead of send so people don't start thinking you were home schooled by Tim Occhipinti.

"...mayor that spends over $2 Million a year on lawyers, planners and anyone else that can help her re-election."
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David you've lost me, and probably most people, with this comment. Other than by doing a good job how does hiring a planner help a Mayor win elections? Same for a lawyer who wins cases or protects our City's legal rights?
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Can you explain what you mean?

If the noise control ordinance stops the church behind my house from blasting sermons and loud music over their amps for hours at a time, I'm all for it.

YEP. Another stupid feel-good law. I won't vote for the corruptos who oppose reform, but when I have a chance to vote for other reformers who won't go making this town into suburbia with a mix of Bloomberg iron-fisted policy, I will vote for them.