i'm going spend the day looking out my window and watching knuckleheads get soaked in the cold rain, get $2,000 fines and have their cars booted/towed. might not be much to watch, though, word on the street is this whole thing is fizzling out.

Hopefullythe warnings of ZERO Tolerance and the rain on Saturday keeps the attendance to a minimum and will have the added benefit of washing the streets down. :-)

The town had been barking these same Zero Tolerance warnings for the last 2 years and what's that done? How is this year going to be any different? Because there's no parade all if a sudden NOW people will head those warnings?

Let's be real, the warnings and to some extent the fines do nothing to curb the partying. Its going to happen whether the town wants it or not. The only thing that may reduce the amount of people that show its the rain. The last few years have had great weather for this day; this year, not so much.

I will be enjoying myself responsibly. Cheers to all!

@Hobbs-I hope you're right but part of me believes that any increase in the mention of the policy won't have much of an effect. The Bar Crawl sold out all of their T shirts over a week ago so that tells me that people are taking it seriously.

In the previous years the town did a good job of getting the word out about the fines before hand and placed posters all over the day of SPD. It just seemed to have landed on deaf ears.

However, I hope I come back here on Monday singing a different tune :) Have fun and stay safe! Sláinte!!!!

I'm bummed the public won't get an opportunity to thank the Hoboken fire department.

Rotary event, then to a party hosted by a commenter on patch and then crashing the PeoplePlease party. Should be fun.

I will do what I have done every year. I will make sure I am stocked up with groceries so I don't have to leave the house. However, since the drunkfest doesn't begin until 11, I may try to run to the gym before 9. Regardless I will sit in my downtown apartment listening to the screaming from the streets until the wee hours of Sunday morning.

I'm waiting for the Faux Irish Festival planned by the faux reformer mayor which will feature faux Irish treats like tacos and sausage and peppers.It will be fun watching all of the Zimmer Zombies gathering on a brisk Wednesday night patting each other on the backs and telling themselves that they're doing a great job running this town into the ground! Sounds like a great night.

When the Irish came to America they weren't welcomed, whats the difference now?? We may be shunned by the Scrooge's but you know very damn well Hoboken wants our hard earned money. God damn we will give it to 'em. HAPPY ST. PATRICK'S MONTH!

If people are willing to pay those prices, how's is it the bar's fault? They're out there to make a buck, the fact that out of town people are willing to pay it doesn't make them greedy. It's the people that come and spend that which creates a market that day where they can get away with those prices. If people decided they'd rather spend their money elsewhere, then the prices would go down. If I owned a bar I'd do the same thing. However, as a consumer I decided it's too much. House party for me!

The people are the suckers, the owners are just capitalizing on that.

JUST DON'T BE STUPID PEOPLE! Is that too much to ask?

@rtrux, I'd support that. The city should Levy some sort of Special Events tax on alcohol serving establishments that gets put into a fund used for policing and clean up.

Rain will end just after 11am - same time the bars open. Coincidence? I think not. God has spoken. Nobody can rain on our parade. Temperature near 60. LepreCon is ON !!!

@KLP, the tickets put the cost of the event onto the people (albiet the stupid ones) not those who profit from the event. They should bear some of the cost since they stand to gain the most. If the town wants to bake that cost into the tax they already Levy on alcohol served then fine by me.

In Ireland the custom is to entertain guests and family at the local pub. The houses and cottages are too small to comfortably host people. The pub is the local gathering spot for the community. This is how it was explained to me when I was there by our Irish family friends. Instead of visiting them at their house we always would meet at the pub. It's been done that way for centuries.

Side note - if you've never been to Ireland, it's a great country with amazing history and culture. This coming from an Italian

did anyone else get a robo call from the police chief the past few days?

@RR, I'm not hosting a party. I'm going to one but I see your point. However, you could make the case that the people hosting the party already do pay through taxes or rent. The cost is currently born by tax revenue collected from residents.

@CJd, true.. The houses I was in in Ireland were more comparable to Hoboken apartments than to Hoboken houses. I visited Limerick and Galway, not Dublin. Nevertheless, your point about the bands and dancing makes sense. The point I'm drying to make is that in Irish culture the pub is the focal point for entrainment.

To Hobbs' comment: we're not really funding a helicopter to circle around and make sure that there aren't too many people on fire escapes, are we? Now THAT would be government of the hysteria, by the hysteria and for the hysteria!

Will councilpeople and former councilpeople be on patrol? Will we get to take helicopter rides with former fourth ward councilpeople?

Hobbs: Where did you read/hear that the mayor ordered this helicopter? ....Ineffective "save/topic switch" by the way. While you might not agree with me...entirely... (that the circling helicopter is ridiculous/over-the-top/hysteric) - I get a feeling that, were we to sit down at a bar and discuss this one away from the blogs and w/o the handles, you might quietly admit that yeah, this move is a little "much."

Who's footing the bill for helicopter? Hoboken or the state?

Did 411 do a helicopter story? Hadn't even been to that site in years until the recent fire. Have to say, 411 did scoop ALL other blogs with coverage of the recent terrible fire at least a couple of hours before every other local site. Friend called and said Monica's is on fire, go to 411, sure enough...

Now, I'll answer your question, but I sure hope you will finally answer mine which was: Where did you read/hear that there would be helicopter(s) patrolling tomorrow?

My answer: Do you seriously thing Hoboken should become a pseudo police state in order to monitor parties that "could become a problem?" (your words) How low will they be hoovering? What about the noise level? Won't it be loud enough tomorrow without the noise of helicopters (if it's plural) like we are in some war zone (we're not.) I think there is a better way to deal with unruly parties than helicopters unnecessarily, intrusively and noisily hoovering around. If there are parties that are getting out of control, neighboring citizens will hear them and can report them, we don't need this type of surveillance in Hoboken. No, this is really over the top, no way to convince me on this one.

I agree it's s bit much. They're treating it like a tailgate party at The Meadowlands. It's a waste

Red - ignorance and intolerance? France, Italy and Spain are the booziest countries in Europe.
"But Journey, you are forgetting that in all of Europe, the Irish do rank up there near the top of who tends to drink the most. Everyone may be able to get drunk but it seems that it is the Irish who tend to get drunk the most."

M. Whipple: There was a time when 411 was a great site, lots of discourse & opinions, fast coverage etc. At some point that changed, posters got banned, stories became extremely biased. I recall the deconstructing Lenz, it was full of hatred, lies & poison. I no longer read it. With that said, I also see MSV as slanted/biased towards the Zimmer administration, but, at least the horse tries to correct info when wrong & doesn't seem to ban anyone. Still, it appears most opposing viewpoints are posted under the handle "guest" & my feeling is that anyone not rabidly pro-zimmer got weary when trying to start an open discourse & ending up being slammed for being Lane Bajardi (to some extent that happens here & I've also been accused of being Lane for simply suggesting that Zimmer has done things that I disagree with) GA's site is kinda fun she doesn't cover as much, just what is of interest to her & shows some creativity in her articles. I do read both of those sites with some regularity, but don't bother posting. All in all, we can get articles on all manner of things in Hoboken very quickly when you add online pubs NJ.com & H.R., but the political climate is too toxic with one side wanting to destroy zimmer at all costs & willing to let the city be collateral damage of that hatred & the other side refusing to see some errors that harm the community & a mayor that no longer 'hears' opinions not in complete agreement with her own (or those of her inner circle.)

Over the years I have seen the same things posted about Hoboken Patch, NJ.com the Hoboken Reporter and other bloggers and web sites that have come and gone. The truth is no website or newspaper is completely objective and the truth lies somewhere between the lines. 411's legacy will be that he proved someone can earn a living blogging about Hoboken while being attacked by all sides with agendas.

War your a teetotaler? You do know alcohol is not the only addictive drink in town. When you gurgle the Kool-Aid before you even have breakfast well then you have a real problem and should seek help. I hear they have meetings every day in the basement of the Lutheran Church on 8th and Hudson.

GA's got the Leper-con Weather Forecast, hour-by-hour.

Happy drinking, everyone.

http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/03/leper-con-weather-forecast.html

Hoboken411's legacy will be as a fascist cult of personality supporter for Beth Mason. The website survived for a time by threatening the local businesses for ads and being underwritten by Mason money.

Pumping out hate and pathological lies about Hoboken officials, city workers and residents the whole way in service to Beth Mason.

After more than a million spent, she isn't and will never be Mayor. She'll be lucky if she stays out of jail.

BATMAN AND ROBIN SPENDING LEPRECON ON THE STREETS TELLING PEOPLE TO RELAX, HAVE A GOOD TIME AND KEEP IT PROFESSIONAL.

h411 was fine when it stuck to new store/restaurant openings and closings, etc. when it decided to become a site with political commentary (aka, when perry sold out to mason and lane/kim started spewing their hate), readers started drifting away. the non-stop negativity and inside baseball (hate to break it to perry/lane/kim but the average citizen has no idea who mike lenz is, never mind care coverage of his every move) made readers feel dirty and who needs that? they never came back, and now perry's circling the drain by his own doing.

i'd feel bad for the guy if he (and those he let write for him) didn't take such glee in the personal destruction of others.

Batman and Robin party appearances available today, $50 for 30 minutes. 100% proceeds go to displaced fire victims. To book us 201-589-9832. Checks only accepted.