November elections cost more b/c so many more people vote. Turnout for Presidential elections are greater than 50%. In off year Federal elections, turnout is closer to 35% or so. Turnout for municipal elections are a fraction of that amount and turnout for BOE elections is even lower than that of municipal elections. You think if 40-50% of the registered voters in this town came out on election day to vote, Pupie or anyone else could find enough money and enough voters willing to take that money to buy an election victory for the BOE, the CC or the mayor's race? Fat chance on that.

So you're saying we should expect Raia to support November elections?

Not a flaw at all. Mason and Occhipinti never would have won if the turnout was twice as high as it was in their respective wards b/c there are only so many voters willing to take a check and a ratty T-shirt in exchange for a vote.

BTW, can you do us all a favor? Can you and Lame decide Hoboken isn't good enough for you and your kids soon? I know, that is really a stretch b/c in reality it is you that just isn't good enough for Hoboken. But just pretend this town isn't good enough for you and move elsewhere. I suggest someplace far away from civilization w/ no neighbors nearby that way your presence won't be as bothersome to your new community as your presence is right now in this one. M'kay?

Just curious, do your children attend the Public schools?

The condo board would never let him in the building. We sort of frown upon vermin.

Uh oh, no vermin allowed. That's one tough Hoboken condo board. No room for Beth Mason's weasel with an easel.

Outofcontrol
10:06 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012

We all know Ms. Sullivan reads this stuff, so let's ask her:
1) Did you get fingerprinted prior to December 31,2011?
2)Has the NJDOE received the results?
3)Are you a member in good standing of the Hoboken Board of Education?
If the answer to all three questions is "yes", then this story was a waste of time.
If the answer to any one of the above is "No", perhaps a resignation would be in order.

No, I don't believe the people of the 4th ward can be bought cheaply. I just think the people who actually take $50 checks for their vote can be bought cheaply. And I am supremely confident that if elections all got moved to November, people like Timmay would never find enough people in the 4th ward that he could buy himself a win there. That is why you people are so scared about November elections b/c you know you can't win a real election when turnout is high even in the 4th ward.

Such venom. I have not witnessed such gratuitous acrimony since the dearly departed franksinatra outed herself as Maureen S. And then suddenly and magically appeared the every lovely gettheledout44. They seem to hold such similar views of politics in Hoboken. Things that make you go hhhmmmmmm. Btw, anyone seen or heard from franksinatra? Not that I really miss that skank.

With student population down 18% over the past 2 years, there had better be a substantial reduction in next year's school's budget. I would not vote for a total school budget that is anything less than a -3% to -5% reduction from last year's. That's why I want to vote on the budget. And don't let the BA blow smoke up anyone's butt with his rambling marble mouthed pontifications about the tax levy.

Hey Maureen, how do you cut the budget when you are already at the lowest level allowed by State law?

Why won't you save the taxpayers of Hoboken $100,000 and move the election to November like every normal voter wants.

Oh and Maureen.

SELLOUT!

Enjoy your Farmer Frank fraudulent paper ballots, you'll need them.

I think Farmer Frank will toss her under the boss. He knows that once a turncoat, always a turncoat so he won't trust her any more than we trust her.

HA- I win

sound familiar?

"In an email, board member Maureen Sullivan said that "I don't have a big problem with moving the election to November, but it's a mistake to give up the right to vote on the budgets. The more direct democracy, the better." Sullivan, whose term is up this year, added that she thinks that the people should decide the move, not a governing body."

I see that the skank is back. Stone cold sober as a matter of fact. NIce try at deflection, and kudos to the quick zig and zag, as you were on the verge of another meltdown, but you outed yourself plain and simple. Now please go crawl back into your bottle and recharge for the upcoming meeting. I understand that its will be one for the record books and you will need some, ahem, extra fortification.

Is probus the same person as curiousgal? They write in the exact same manner.

They're man and wife. The distinction is that SO FAR only the husband has been arrested at a BOE meeting.
http://www.nj.com/hobokennow/index.ssf/2010/04/hoboken_police_blotter_hoboken_3.html

Blah, blah, blah. Any extra money is sitting in the surplus. You know that. You also know that the people you shill for would love to flush that surplus at the BOE down the toilet on make work jobs, no show jobs and no bid contracts like they used to do in the past. That is why the vote buyers can't ever get back in control of the BOE if we want to keep the spending under control.

18% less students in the district---legal costs $400,000 a year? $780,000 in uncollected lunch fees? Stop spending it on lawyers, administrators, and financial negligence and give it back to all the taxpayers. Start making cuts. We should see a 3%-5% reduction from last year. Valentine's Day is approaching and people are going to be demanding BOTH a major reduction in the total school budget and the right to vote on that budget.

Yeah, and how much of that was thanks to frivolous law suits like the one the BOE had to deal w/ from people like our felon former mayor? I am sure he would have been real happy if we didn't hire a lawyer to beat back that baseless case of his.

If you are going to ue teh 780 number lets get it right and put it into perspective:
1mm lunch expenditure under your guys, 244k uncollected vs
780 lunch expendiuture(inclusive or your guys prior uncollected) and 133k uncollected

if you are going to legal fees, lets put it into perspective:
Your guys had no line item for legal fees- we know there was nearly 700k payoff in one suit
This administration puts its fees on line item- and 3 of your people filed bogus lawsuits costing hte district $$$$$ to defend in court- (one of those guys was your buddy and exemployee (with an axs to grind) petrosino).

if you are going to use the 18% number please provide documentation from a reputable source- not the nonsense from Petrosino's website.

Congrats Ms B! I see your current town of Secaucus kept elections in April. Now feel free to enjoy that and finally stay out of Hoboken decisions once and for all. We'll be happy with all elections in November.

http://www.hudsonreporter.com/view/full_stories_home/17470108/article--Secaucus-school-board-keeps-election-in-April-?instance=up_to_the_minute_lead_story_left_column

Moving elections to when turnout is highest is not a power grab. Of course not surprised the vote buying supporters think increasing turnout is a power grab b/c last thing they want is honest taxpayers running this town.

what are your thoughts on Ms. sullivan resigning?

Outofcontrol
10:06 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012

We all know Ms. Sullivan reads this stuff, so let's ask her:
1) Did you get fingerprinted prior to December 31,2011?
2)Has the NJDOE received the results?
3)Are you a member in good standing of the Hoboken Board of Education?
If the answer to all three questions is "yes", then this story was a waste of time.
If the answer to any one of the above is "No", perhaps a resignation would be in order.

Not you, too? tsk tsk You and gettheboozeout44, who called the NJDOE screaming at least 20 times. Yikes.

What ABOUT that fake "grassroots" petition.... well, it all depends on where the grass is growing... at a handful of elite buildings.

http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/02/they-got-mayor-on-ropes.html

Well, obviously you think Sullivan should resign.

Outofcontrol
10:06 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012

We all know Ms. Sullivan reads this stuff, so let's ask her:
1) Did you get fingerprinted prior to December 31,2011?
2)Has the NJDOE received the results?
3)Are you a member in good standing of the Hoboken Board of Education?
If the answer to all three questions is "yes", then this story was a waste of time.
If the answer to any one of the above is "No", perhaps a resignation would be in order.

Get back to us when you have her resignation signed off by the BA.

FAP, are you asking real people or Farmer Frank's ho's that showed up for the hoe-down?

Nice try. Not working.

What do you think about sullivan resigning?

Outofcontrol
10:06 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012

We all know Ms. Sullivan reads this stuff, so let's ask her:
1) Did you get fingerprinted prior to December 31,2011?
2)Has the NJDOE received the results?
3)Are you a member in good standing of the Hoboken Board of Education?
If the answer to all three questions is "yes", then this story was a waste of time.
If the answer to any one of the above is "No", perhaps a resignation would be in order.

Nice try, not working and will you be telling Mason to keep her out of town paid political operatives out of the race? Also, tell Pupie's dear friend in Secaucus to stay out of our BOE meetings as well since you care so little about what out of towners think. That foul witch keeps popping up at BOE meetings like the groundhog in Caddyshack and she moved out of town quite some time ago.

I would want her out of the BOE meetings too when she brings up embarrassing things like QSAC reports that aren't presented to the public as they should be. Don't want her around....

I am just calling out OOC on being a hypocrite you curiously obtuse gal.

Hey Curious Kim, want to know what's embarrassing?

A "grassroots" movement only for grass growing in Hoboken subsidized housing! BWAA HAW HAW. So much for your elitist petition.

Farmer Frank and his farm hands say: "Let OUR People Decide"

Wow, THAT'S embarrassing. Oh, and so is being married to someone arrested for robbery.

http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/02/they-got-mayor-on-ropes.html

You mean people like your mayor? Let's go to the video tape:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUqkH_2AgmE

Watch Mason fabriccate about the Superbowl right on camera!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYvgXXw3D0Y&feature=player_embedded

A. She hasn't said boo on the issue so don't know how you can claim she is doing anything
B. I didn't see her or the other reform candidates writing checks the last couple elections or so
C. She kicked the Poopster to the curb, I'd love for her to explain that falling out but I bet it has something to do w/ his tactics.
D. The Poopster is firmly in your camp harvesting votes like mad so if you don't like it, how about you explain why you have tolerated him and his harvested votes for so long. We clearly don't tolerate it which is why he is w/ you guys

We all know the people pushing the petition drive to keep the BOE elections in April are the same people who bought Occhipinti his Council seat. (Anybody in the 4th Ward having some buyer's remorse over that one?) These people will always lie and cheat because that's the only way they can prevail. There are NO legitimate reasons in favor of leaving the BOE elections in April. The whole argument about being able to vote on the budget is such a disengenuous crock! The budgets have been approved from time immemorial. We could hire two additional teachers for the amount of money saved by not holding separate elections in April. I find it appalling that the crooks and liars and vote buyers are now singing the praises and extolling the virtues of democracy to make their case to keep BOE elections in April ...what chutzpah! Then again, nobody in that crowd is capable of feeling any shame over their repeated crimes. Maybe some of them will change their tune when the FBI comes knocking. It can't be soon enough.

The last time someone from her family showed up, didn't they get arrested? lol

Hey, someone has to educate the curiously obtuse gal or she will be obtuse forever.

I wonder if a camera followed you and Pupie. What would we find??

It's up to 85% on the poll here in favor of November BoE elections. Ouch.

When it comes to vote buyers and their enablers, there is no such thing as a grass roots movement. No matter what they try to do, they will try to rig the results.

So even you are say frank "Pupie" Raia is a bad guy ?

I guess some understood that and walked way from him and some like Mrs. Mason understood that and decided that she was desperate enough that she didn't care and partnered up with him, as she already had no quamls of partenering with HOBOKEN'S FIRST FAMILY OF CORRUPTION the Russos.

But hey it worked for Mason, Russo & Co.with a lot of Richard Mason's money, they were able to have "Pupie" and his boys harvest enough votes (500 + election day "street workers" @ $40 a pop) to put Occhipinti on the City Council to be their extra vote.