I would love to get a timeline and scope of Occhipinti's participation with the project. All the meetings he must have attended, the documents he either prepared or marked up. I'm sure it would be a facinating read.
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It would also be nice to understand why bonding for this park is okay but bonding for the traffic light that allows the northern park to be built is wrong.
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Claire any chance Tim would be willing to provide either?

Amazing Tim votes to help the kids, but stiffs the adults- our police, fire and maintenance workers who need renovations and replacement of facilities and equipment as well. FAP: we need bonding for this needed item(s) too. Here Tim and MORC are 100% AWOL. All you'll get from Tim is puff piece answers.

"A field was planned for 1600 Park, but that park won't open until at least the Fall of 2012."

Due to the fact that Mr "Press Release / Photo Op" Occhipinti voted lockstep with the Old Guard to shoot down the bond for the traffic light that would have had 1600 Park open about a year sooner. You know, those same folks (Ms Mason, Mr Russo and Ms Castelanno) who just cost the town about 4 million dollars voting politically instead of rationally.

Don't believe the Occhipinti "pro-parks" hype. Totally style without substance.

Kudos to Councli majority Marsh, Bhala, Cunningham, Mello and Giattino who put the best interests of ALL of Hoboken above petty politics unlike Castellano, Mason, Russo and Occhipinti who seldom rise above the confines of their own political agenda.

I play kickball on the HHA field. Those fields need repair ASAP.

This Tim Occhipinti seems like a pandering do-nothing who only breaks a sweat when it comes to coattail-riding and press-releasing other people's work. What a joke. Seriously, a joke. He steals plans from meetings, votes against parks while pretending to be a parks champion, and makes silly, illogical arguments to rationalize his marching-ordered votes.

At council meetings, I look at Castellano and think, ok, this is one nasty lady, but at least she knows which side her bread is buttered on and she stands firm. I can respect that. I look at Russo and think, ok, this guy is a blowhard, a pandering pontificator and a crook, but he's fighting for a way of life that is the only thing he's ever known. I can respect that. I look at Mason and think, wow, this woman is beyond crazy and is clearly no longer able to think clear-headedly about what she's doing. She's cast her lot where she's cast it and doesn't know how to turn back even if she wanted to. She's insane and destructive, but she seems to be at least partly a victim of her own mental collapse. I can respect that.

Tim, I cannot respect.

I completely agree with your assessment and would add that Tim is an opportunist and a very weak vessel. If he ends up not being arrested by the FBI it's because his handlers determined he was too dumb to be trusted. Unfortunately, that would also mean he's too dumb to be shamed.

tim would agree to disagree with many of these comments

It's fascinating Tim Occhipinti is the person being quoted in this story? Did he do work or was Director Leo Pellegrini just not available?

MSV has Beth Mason's confession on the FBI investigation.
http://hobokenhorse.com

What's the matter afraid that all this bile will go unread on MSV. The turfing of Mama Johnson has ruminated at the HHA for years. When Lenz's lost and the council majority switched, a group of citizens met to proritize upgrades to our parks. Mama Johnson loomed large, as well as, Church Square Park, 1600 Park etc. Nino was the point person carring the plan at the council level. A small bond was approved and the HFA handed to the city a +$60,000 check to help defray the cost of Church Square Park. 1600 Park is stymied by a redesign and the realization of traffic at the foot of the viaduct. For some reason, the approved plans for the Chuch Square Park playground will now be conflated in a larger renovation plan. That Mama Johnson is proceeding is indeed due to the efforts of Tim and Carmelo Garcia. veryone one else sat on their hands.
Perry

Pretending Mr Occhipinti has earned his keep on any park project is just not true.

Ply,
Your saying such does not change the facts. You can spin it but you can't win this one.Dawn tried to kill this project based on a concept plan. Tim and Carmelo kept it alive and are bringing it home.
Perry

Ply- What I stated was the truth. The deal on Moma Johnson was unraveling because of a concept plan.Tim and Carmelo worked to keep the plan moving forward. Khoboken, does it hurt to be you?
Perry

Owl- Hate to leave you up a tree but no.I have not seen an FBI agent is 5 years during the specious investigation of Paterson Contractors. Care to opine on the hold up of park renovations which is the subject of this thread.
Perry

FYI: Peter "Perry" Belfiore an "old guard" political opreative who in the opinion of many has little crediability and after his working so had to put the corrupt Peter Cammarano into office and removed and convicted of his felonies against the people of Hoboken he turn his attentions to his "plan B" to get Tim Occhipinti elected in the now infamous November election in the 4th Ward to give Mason&Russo the power to sabotage Hoboken.

Known for his highly verbose twisting of the truth having him spin a face saving tale for his plan b is to be expected. He is tainted by his own actions and the company he keeps.

When confronted he usualy loses his veneer of civility and reveals his nasty inner core.

Roman,
I probably viewed your site in excess of 10,000 time, and that was just last week. It is as compelling as a car wreck. Currently, when viewing your site I am convinced that the only person Oliver Stone could cast in this melodrama as you, is you. Our problem, if we confessed our friendship for each other, we would both lose friends. Time for Bed.
Perry.
Perry

Oh Hobbs, The fundraiser must be over. Old Guard, I hope you weren't refering to my age but you and your are attempting using a nice abstraction to denergrate the opposition. There is no spin needed here. You can fool some of the people.....well you get the idea. Mama Johnson's Field is proceeding despite the Administration. Riddle me this. Where is the $60,000 the HFA donated for the playgound upgrades at Church Square Park. Good night!
Perry

Perry's problem is that he's not on the inside anymore and Tim is not smart enough to give Perry enough info to piece together a plausible story.
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Perry it was the Mayor's office via Director Leo Pellegrini that put the park plan together and the Business administrator who organized financing. They did this in conjunction with Executive Director Garcia.
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From what I understand Tim's contribution was to periodically ask the grown ups how their work was going.
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Perry if you want to live in your fantasy world be my guest. However if you want to convince us all you have to do is have Tim release the many emails he must have exchanged in planning this park and arranging financing. Of course he'd then have to explain why bonding for the HHA park is dandy but bonding for 1600 is a terrible wrong.
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Perry do you think Timmay is up to it? Your move big guy.

Fap,
I think you are becoming obsessed with Tim. The bond for Mama Johnson passed in Jan/Feb while Nino was Chair of the Quality of Life Committee. It Languished due to a concept plan but the funding has been in place for months. There is no correlation between 1600 and Mama Johnson. The delay at 1600 is for redesign not the traffic light on a county road. But again the parking Utility had a 3.1 Million dollars surplus, why bond for the light. The whole world is reducing debt while recently Hoboken hasn't seen and over inflated bond that it didn't like. Khoboken, purient imagery. bodering on an unhealty fantasy. What you do in the privacy in your own home is your own business.I have not been questioned by any Federal agent in the last 5 years. Sorry! As to bonding doesn't it make sense to mitigate debt with surplus then bond for the delta.

Perry

Anyone who has seen Tim Occhipinti speak on the City Council or should I say try to read his script, understand that he would not be capable of being involved in any sort of negotiations.

Lucky for Hoboken he has never been in that position.

I would thank all concerned to take it light on the pettiness and debate this issue on it's merits. Believe me, there's plenty there to hold the discussion. Let's stop it with the posturing, and please Mr Occhipinti, despite what the handlers tell you, honesty is the best policy. It should have been Mr Pelligrini rolling out this press release about Mama Johnson, with you in the background "looking on". That, at best, is the relationship of the relative contributions. BTW, Mr Occhipinti, when you torpedoed getting 1600 Park open anytime soon, you showed your hand on parks. Clearly, they are a warm and fuzzy photo op when Ms Mason gives you permission to vote for them. But you do now owe Mr Belfiore a solid.

Ply,
The park is out for redesign, the DEP allowed the retaining walls to be lowered two feet. You have to coordinate your message better. On other threads the lack of Bonding for the Traffic Light is causing the delay-as if we just discovered the 16th and Wilow intersection. Stringing together beautiful words make you no more right and your presumption that Old equates corrupt borders on the pathological.But why don't we drop the caqnard, accoding to others there is no surplus. It has all been spent. Encumbered dollars are not surplus.This year we spent 2million on legal fees for wrongful termination lawsuits; is Adriani still on the payroll? Are you serious $900.000 in Firefighters overtime while we lost $600,000 in grant money for new hires in thar department. Giving this administration more money is like giving a hand granade to a monkey!
Perry

Perry for someone who has been a gadfly of city government you show an amazing ignorance of how things work. Neither Nino nor Tim arranged funding for the HHA park nor did they write the legislation that the arranged the funding. The Mayor's office put together the funding and negotiated the park plans. Tim would like to take credit for the work of others but I find that dishonest and Hoboken has had enough of dishonesty.
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The HHA field and 1600 park have one significant thing in common. They both need bonding to expedite their construction. Tim says he's categorically against bonding however he voted for the HHA bond. If bonding is bad why is Tim not calling for the funds for HHA to come from general revenue? Tim was called out on this at the last meeting and he looked ridiculous as he floundered for an answer.
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Bonding for capital improvements or durable goods is entirely appropriate. It smooths out spending over the life of the purchase and avoids spending spikes that could necessitate layoffs one year while giving a City an over large surplus the next. It's one of the basics of budgeting, but why should anyone expect Tim to know the basics when he can't comprehend a bond's structure even when he's walked through it.

As we have seen in the past several times Tim Occhipint's handlers have tried to take credit for the work of others by putting out a press release. The efforts are to try to deflect from his well deserved image as a bought and paid for, empty suit placed on the City Council to be rubber stamp the vote.

IMO, Perry Belfiore has tried to put a young professional face (Cammerano, Occhipinti) on the same old guard Culture of Corruption in Hoboken. His comments are always geared to protect and make excuses for their agenda and to attack and undermine anything that will reduce their power.

Redrider765 and Hobbs-- you fail to mention the credit you and yours deserve for all those wonderful moral victories your side keeps racking up with each city wide election loss.

Fap, What about the $1,600.000 bond ordinance passed last year don't you understand. The impetus was the tenacity exhibited in the private fundraising, some $60,000 which was donated to the city, by Moms who wanted to upgrade the playgound at Ghurch Square Park. The point person was former Director Maier By the way where is that $60,000? This was further exhibited in voting for $16,000,000 to repair Sinatra Park, a project 2.5 years in the making and $20,000,000 for undisclosd open space. Add to that $17,000,000 needed to buy back the Municipal Garage because this Administration bungled the NFA Letter and you are talking serious dedt obligation in uncertain economic times. Arch Liston has stated and was repeated at the council that the Parking surplus can only be used for the needs of the Utility. Why not mitigate the Midtown Garage debt with the Parking surplus and bond for the difference.
Perry

Owl- Dawn has the money. Ask her how she won the 4th ward the first time. Then ask Forde about Lottery tickets. The only elected official to step down from an elected position in advance of an adverse court ruling is our current mayor. But why not talk about more pleasant things such as Mama Johnson's Field?
Perry

1653,
Someone made a misstake I corrected it. No pride involved just the unvarnished truth. I have served this city on three boards and have never been accusted of a crime other than 2 disordley conducts (Both dismissed) and weeds at my shore home (paid the fine). Where do I get the cookie?
Perry

I just saw this thread for the first time and found it highly entertaining. thank you Perry and Prosbus (and Tim!!) Particularly amusing was the part where Prosbus talks about "moral victories." In 2009 when Zimmer was elected by something like 20%, the anti-Zimmer narrative was that Zimmer had really lost even though she got to be mayor because "anybody but Dawn" had gotten more votes than she had. Tell us Prosbus and Perry - which victory was real and which was "moral."

Last May, the reform wing won back control over the City Council winning 2 Ward races despite the widely disseminated pre-election claim that the anti-zimmer faction would "sweep six." The anti-zimmer folks proudly announced that despite losing control of the Council, they had actually won because their candidates collectively got 1000 more votes than the reformers. Tell us Prosbus and Perry - which victory is real and which is "moral."

Maybe posting about lottery tickets reflects another one of those "real victories" for you - If I recall Zimmer got the Council seat but that was probably only a "moral victory" too!!

You guys crack me up. Please don't let the FBI cart you away for awhile. I'm probably moving to the left coast in a few months and I'll need this stuff to keep from feeling homesick after the move.

Mayor Zimmer has been out spent in just about every race she's ever run in. Forget about the unreported cash that's used for funny business I'm talking the money the Old Guard actually admits to spending
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Then Councilwoman Zimmer stepping down was a tactical decision. People knew that with only an 8 vote margin separating the candidates and enough people honestly mishandling their own mail in ballots** a judge would eventually order a new race. Councilwoman Zimmer by stepping down choose the date of the re-run to coincide with existing November elections. In that Nov election she defeated her opponent by about 125 votes and on the machines
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As for the "lottery" lie, one dollar scratch offs were attached as attention getters to flyers that said "Don't Gamble with Your Future". At no time was anything given in exchange for a promise of support. I was there and I know that for a fact. In fact Campos and his team knew I was there and because they knew it was a dry well decided not to bother to ask me any questions.
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I'm sorry Perry that when you close you eyes at night you need to believe everyone is like the Old Guard. We're not and don't want to be. Mayor Zimmer has hired competent professionals instead of corrupt friends, she's cut the tax levy instead of dolling out tax dollars as favors.
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I'd like to say I've never been questioned by the FBI.

Giorgio's, your choice

Granted this thread is nothing but entertaining. Seems like ole MSV times.
Perry doesn't look like escaping the confines there is helping here much.
MSV turned p1ywood from a mirthful punster into a ninja good governance warrior.

He's been splintering your Beth Russo hydra team since. lol

Owl,
Could it just be that I abhor hypocrisy such as Lenz pontification against patronage while living off the public for 10 years. Or Vacuity such as this city squandering +$200,000 in an insane debacle to move the Municipal Garage engendering 2 law suits and the most egarious act I have ever witnessed; the illegal ursurping of another's lease. This city is being run into the ground. Planned development has come to a stand still, legal fees have quadrupled to $2.000.000, overtime in the Fire department topped $1,000.000 and we have less open space today them we did 3 years ago, while children pay $25.00 to play in mud or in Weehawken. As to your friends, time will tell. This thread is about Moma Johnson's Field and given the dearth of usable open space we should all be cheering on a sucessful completion
Perry.

Owl I like this, we should all post it, if we can.
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I've never been questioned by the FBI or the US Attorney.

Perry - what does "egarious act" mean. Also - can you expound on how much the lawsuit about the "egarious act" was worth in court? My recollection was that it was settled for something like $10,000. Is that the economic value of an "egarious act?"

I've never been questioned by the FBI or the US Attorney unless you count questions about the menu when I was waitressing. Also I oppose mama Russo being given a union city patronage job because I particularly oppose cross border patronage since the "payback" is likely to be more nefarious.

Owl- This may cause a ripple but I have always thought of Patronage as creating a position where none is needed, It is a given that both Michael and Michelle occupy position that predate their employment therfore neither was created expressly for them.So the difference between the two, in my mind, is that Michael made a career of denigrating Patronage while in pursit of it. As to Michael you have it wrong, I like him. I served on the school board with him and we had many spirited discussion leading to improving the system. Michelle has been a friend for years. She reminds me of my sister upfront, sometimes to fault. I don't know what she will be doing in Union City but I am sure that she as Michael will do Hoboken proud.
Perry

Poor patheticv Perry is just here to spread more of his half truths and whole lies.

His only real job is to try to muddy the water so his buddies dirt doesn't stand out quiet so much.

He will never comment on dear friend and matriarch of the probably most corrupt family in Hoboken Michele Ruso job because that would just reinerate his hypocricy.

He seems quite OK with the government jobs others have labled as patronage of his dear close friends Ramos (both Ruben and Sandra), the Calloichio's and even his own wife.

Ask Mr. B if he is OK with the actions of his dear close friends Raia, Mason, Cryan the brothers Callichio and himself in the infamous 4thward elections to put his boy Occhipinti into office and listen to the sounds of hypocitical silence.

As interesting as this smorgasbord of issues and sniping in this thread is, I would like to make an attempt to get back on topic. Here's the set-up. Mama Johnson Field was always the stepchild of the Little League Field. Over the last say, for this discussion, ten years, the athletic programs have burgeoned. In particular, the interest in organized municipal youth sports has exploded. All was moving along fine, we even added a much-needed soccer field on the water front during strong economic times. A jewel in the crown for Hoboken. Life was good.

Fast forward. The waterfront soccer field falls into the Hudson. Why? Turns out it was built on the cheap with fuzzy science and fuzzy engineering. Who knows how much money went south with the decision to build a brand new soccer field pier on a 100 year old pier foundation. So this great triumph to the Russo administration was literally built on a shaky foundation.

However, the athletic programs have continued to burgeon. We learn that it will take I believe over $20 mil (? help me out here Mr Siegel) to rebuild it. Plus environmental concerns, state involvement, blasé, blasé, blasé. Short version is we are on the 10 year plan over there.

I believe it's $12 million for Sinatra, the remainder is for other projects.

Timmy verbally supported Mama Johnson Field but did everything to slow down 1600 Park for political purposes. This another example of him playing gratitous ward politics and not looking out for the best of Hoboken. The light should have been approved pure and simple. Maybe Dave Roberts was right, eliminate the ward seats and the bickering. Tim did not serve Hoboken well voting down 1600 Park to his paymasters.

Something that this city seems to misunderstand is that the Council is not "responsible" for anything other than legislation. It is the Mayor who is the executive and ultimately she and the people who work for her are truly responsible.

Let see, one at a time Ply- I get it youlike Leo however the field now known as Moma Johnson has a checkered history. I like many commissioners advocated the installation of Turf but the HHA finances were debilitated by a former Exective Director leaving a good idea unactualized. Carmelo picked up the ball then first Nino and more recently Tim rose to the occassion but so much for not being strident. Kurt on Oct 21 Claie reported a traffic light was holding up 1600 Park yet we all know the park is out for redesign. The way I would handle this is to do the traffic study with the Utility and make installation of the light if not fundeed by the County part of the construction bond. Scott. Sinatra Park is a stand alone bond there was a small bond, under 2M for park upgrades. Perhaps you know where the 60K the Moms donated to the city for Chuch Square Park upgrade went to? Hobbs when Michael Lenz chaired the Robert's transition he fought to add the department of Constituent Service in General and Sandra Ramos in Hispanic Affairs in particular.Greenhaven was that your definition when Lenz was hired. I don't recall you railing against it. Additionally, the squatting on anothers lease is a flagrant abuse of governmental power and that is more egracious than monetary damages
Perry

Red weren't you paying attention, I like Lenz. I even tried to get him the job as Parking Authority Director.If you think this administration is not vacuous you deserve your nom de plume for wearing rose colored glasses.- Scott, The Moms were fundraising with the help of Dave Roberts and David Lieber. Dawn crashed a party and stop the fundraising stating the city would come up matching funds on a two to one basis. The Moms handed over a check and Dawn took your advice not to honor the committment. Shouldn't the Moms get the money back because if they didn't stop fundraising the playground upgrades would have been done last spring. Again this pastyear saw 2Mfor park upgrades is, 12M for Sinatra, 20M, which isn't a fifth of the total need, for undisclosed open space approved and, 17M buy back of municipal garage approved and issued. Why not tell Dawn to pay down the Midtown Garage with the Utility and bond for the delta.
Perry

Let her raise your and the obstructionist minority's taxes and I'll say yes.

Scott, Won't you contribute your taxes to help out the kids.I see are you holding yourself out, as the administrationseems to be, the arbitor of what needs bonding and what doesn't. I think the Moms are a victim of a bait and switch. Were is the $60,000. Is that moneygoing to pay slaary increases. The money was raised for a particular purpose by caring mothers, children and concerned citizen. Fix the playgroung or give the money back. Pizza night be back tomorrow. Play nice.

Perry

I was initially against Hoboken bonding for playgrounds. Then I spoke to Zabrina. I asked if they could raise the money themselves. She said that $60,000 wouldn't do much at all. That's why I changed my mind and supported the bond issue. The problem is that your side doesn't want to bond for anything. They would rather risk layoffs and our firefighters not being paid. They also won't pay our lawyers and now we have a case with no representation. That is what your side does for Hoboken.

I don't know why Belfiore bothers doing the irrational talking points for th Old Guard.

The Old Guard Dumbo dumped him like a ton of bricks in the Ward races for of all people the haircut Scott Delea who couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag. Goodbye and goodnight Perry.

Guess he can't take a hint or just likes to hear himself talk so he can go to bed embarrassing himself instead of doing but thinking he showed everybody. Or maybe PUpie still buys him dinner once in a while and asks him to do this, but perry doesn't even know the script anymore.

Scott, The only side I am on is Hoboken's. In the last two Months Dawn has asked for a 2,000,000 bond to cover retro pay inreases. When did bonding for operating expenses become accepted. She further went on to ask for a $19,000,000, with +200,000 in fees, when the outstanding obligation at the Midtown Garage is $17,000,000. We then found out that only $4,500,000 of the note is subject to IRS penalty. Later it was statred that of the $4,500,000 $3,100,000 of the Utility surplus had been applied reducing exposure to around $1,500,000. If we have no surplus in the new Fiscal year whing begins in January, why not bond for the $1,500,000 which is all the money needed reducing fees and debt.
Oh by the way Mr. Dastardly, when I ask for toilet paper that when you should roll out, LOL. Off to join life in Hoboken. This thread is worn. Play nice.
Perry

LOL Perry Belfiore has always been a verbose enabler and excuse maker for the Hoboken old guard and continues to to be.

His record behind likes Cammarano, Occhipinti and Mason Russo leaves little doubt of his political agenda.

Belfiore is here to do damage control and to try to muddy the waters with his usual half truths and whole lies so the people he supports don't look quite so dirty.
That is not being on the side of Hoboken.

Perry, get your facts straight. Retro was to come from surplus via a transfer that minority didn't approve. The original parking debt was $19 million (current balance $17 million), that's why it is worded a ssuch. The minority has refused to bond for anything, so your last point is moot.

Perry you still haven't answered my question as to whether the financial value of the most "agarian" case you'd ever seen turned out to be about $10,000. Please define "agarian" and let us know whether or not I am correct in my recollection of the settlement amount.
Also - a word to the wise. In both your written and oral presentations, you seem to strive to use as many big words as possible, often incorrectly both in terms of spelling/pronunciation and usage. This perhaps makes you seem intelligent to those less intelligent and less educated than you, but has the opposite effect on those with average intelligence or higher. You might want to reflect on who your target audience is and what your goal is and consider whether this is an effective tactic.

Your selective mixture of truth and falsehoods is not nearly as skillfully fabricated as the brilliant diatribes of the minion - if your goal is to be compared favorably with the "not paid for friendship" couple, you are aiming too high. Despite having rendered themselves completely ineffective, their skill set dwarfs yours and when you parrot their tactics you just highlight their strengths and your own weaknesses.

The tactics that you have employed somewhat effectively within your political base over the years make you somewhat of a laughing stock when you venture outside. If your goal is to simply entertain, then keep up the good work. If your goal is to persuade then you might want to consider another approach.

Green
Sorry I misspelled the word egregious. But your post is pedantic. Commenting on spelling and grammer as if that more wrongful than a flagrant abuse of govermental power. You cannot quantify governmental abuse with monetary award. Doggy Day Care was ground to dust and forced to relocated from Hoboken.Our tax dollars were used to stymie the hopes and dreams of a fellow citizen. I feel sorry for you. Your attempts at being the English teacher on this thread out weighed your empathy. What was done to Staglione was wrong, no matter how you spell the word worng. That you don't agree is scary on many levels. Look for me to respond no more.
Perry

Hobbs,
This thread on Mama Johnson but has morphed into several topics,. I confess I don't know the facts on HoLa, except that this stated as a program in the Hoboken Public Schools, was terminated and now is a charter school siphoning students from the system. I am ignorant of the personnel issues at the program so I refrain from opining. Owl indeed the business you reference had a lease on property proximal to the 16th street willow ave viaduct. THe City of Hoboken with full knowledge of the exting lease relocated heavy equipment from the Municipal Garage squatting on Doggy Day Care's leased location. The city was sued and In advance of an adverse court ruling, aided by the cover of night, the heavy equipment retreated back to the Municipal Garage. We lost two lawsuits on this one. Off with the family. Enjoy the day.Play nice.
Perry

Geen,
So I take it you are OK with the illegal taking of anothers property and having government desroy someone's dreams. Are you really that insenstive to the hopes and dreams of others. I pity you and pray you are not now norr ever will be in a position to actualize the governmental abuse you so vocicerously espouse.
Perry

Off topic; Interesting stuff in the Reporter this weekend - interview with new hospital ceo and a article mentioning zealous Hoboken prosecutor. Wonder if PATCH will have any articles on the subject? Can't comment on HOLA cause i don't have a clue as to what is going on there.

Furde,
The city knew of the preexisting lease and still squatted on another's property rights. Do you not realize that. Kates admitted the city and Zimmer knew but it was an inconvience that would be steamroller by an out of control desperate Administration. Nothing less than an abuse of power to anyone who believes in civil liberties. But keep on trying to spin this by reducing the award or blaming the property.owner If you were wise you would drop the issue and not continue to remind people of the vacuilty and insensitivity which is at the core of this administration.
Perry

I apologize for being off topic, but Hoboken Unleashed wanted to move where the Bier Garden is. I was the only member of the public to support them. Now they are moving to Newport shortly. If the Nino led council had supported our local business' as I did their jobs would still be in Hoboken.

Forde,
What fees?Your reality testing is faulty. Are you are attempting to trivialize the relocation of a man's business and dreams forced by flagrant governmental abuse. Check the veracity of my narrative by reading Claire's reporting.. You sir, are the one blinded by friendship. I assure you, had the name of the Mayor performing this flagrant abuse of power not be Zimmer, you would be manning the barricades.
Perry

Scott,
You are wrong. I was on the Planning Board .The council was attemting to change zoning which would have allowed dog runs in a significant portion of the city. Citizen spoke out decrying the change. The council voted against this unintended consequence. Staglione then found a less impactful location which this Administration squatted on. Blaming the council in an attemt to excuse the bad behavior effectuate by the Zimmer Administration is a perverse warping of logic and revisionist history. Red, Staglione could not hazard zoning board approval after suing the city. .Zimmer even had Mayor Turner, who was pursuing a share services agreement for use by Weehawken's DPW, bus protestors to Zoning Board meetings. But I guess It is okay for government to screw the little guy as long as you like the mayor. Hobbs, I never defended Peter and I don't know what Tim nor Beth have to do with Doggy Day Care. Your animosity is too high take time to hug yourself. Perhaps if you dislike yourself less you will like others more.
Perry

Green,
Last post of the evening. A distrust of government is not only healty but required. The settlement was for $15,000 but this was not a conflict between equals as in two prvate companies. This was a conflict between the government of Hoboken with the almost limitless ability to use taxpayer's monies to fund a lawsuit and a private citizen who was borrowing dollars to augment a business model.The outcome was never in dispute until the courts forced Hoboken to vacate the site, in the dead of night, by asking our cracked legal team "what were you thinking". You follow a slippery slope if you reduce government abuse with settlement dollars. A government has the ability to grind down a private citizen and we as a society must be vigilant in never allowing that to occur. You like this Mayor. Fine. But we cannot accept bad acts creating precedent because you may not like the next mayor, or worse it may be your lease.
TTFN.,
Perry

Perry thank you for proving my earlier point. Perry assumes that Mayor Zimmer would have "ground Staglione into powder" because that's what he and the people he has supported would have done. Maybe they would have spared Staglione if he hired a few of their friends or gave them a "campaign contribution" preferably in cash.
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Perry if you stand with the abusers and thieves long enough it's impossible not to assume everyone will steal and abuse the public trust.

Why is Mason fan site trashing the Project Play ?

Hoboken Grafix Avenger looks into the trash bin @ Hate411