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Running in the Fifth Ward

Peter Cunningham is seeking a second term.

 

Peter Cunningham is running for a second term as city councilman, "because the job is not done," he said during a recent interview at his Garden Street home.

Standing in his kitchen, preparing food for his Burmese Mountain Dogs Hayden and Phoebe, he discussed issues such as the budget surplus, corruption and public safety.

Although there has been much discussion on the budget surplus, to Cunningham the number is clear. The total reserve, he said, is $25 million. Of that money, $14 million is left in cash, of which $9 million has already been allocated. The rest, he added, should remain in the city's coffers, to fund unexpected events and emergencies. Part of the surplus, Cunningham explained, still has to be used to pay the city's debt, from when it had an underfunded budget.

“It’s ridiculous,” Cunningham said about the discussion about the budget surplus, “it’s so clear.”

In 2008—during the administration of former mayor David Roberts—Cunningham voted against Roberts' budget, because it was underfunded. The budget didn't pass, which caused the state to come in and take over the city's finances.

“It wasn’t anybody’s finest moment,” Cunningham recalled. 

Although things headed in the right direction, he said, “the city’s finances are still a concern today.” One good year is not enough, Cunningham said. “You have to have several good years."

Cunningham, who is endorsed by Mayor Dawn Zimmer and has served on the city council for four years, said another point on his list of priorities is the city’s public safety.

About last Fall’s proposed police lay offs—which the mayor announced but were ultimately avoided—Cunningham said, they were designed to restructure the, what he called, top-heavy police department.

“We got to have our guys in the street,” Cunnigham said. “We have not have the civilianization we need.” Cunningham added that Police Chief Anthony Falco’s redeployment plan still needs to be fully implemented. In the Fifth Ward, Cunningham said, “we don’t need two (officers) driving around.” He said also that too many police officers are still sitting behind desks.

During a recent council meeting, Cunningham voted in favor of hiring Class II officers, for a lower rate than regular cops. (The ordinance didn’t pass).

Cunningham, 47, who switched from being a Republican to being a Democrat in 2009 and voted for President Barack Obama, described himself as a “moderate Democrat.”

“Finances always continue to be a priority,” Cunningham said.

Cunningham said he would like to see an audit of the city’s finance department ("where all the money is coming and going"), done by a forensic accountant to fully evaluate the city's operations. 

Cunningham works for a global financial services company in North Jersey and has lived in Hoboken for roughly 20 years. Four years ago, Cunnigham also ran against his current opponents Perry Belfiore and Scott Delea. This time around, City Historian Lenny Luizzi is also part of the race.

As far as some of the difference in opinions in town, and between him and other candidtes. are concerned, Cunningham said he’s baffled by some issues.

“How could you have a disagreement on finances and infrastructure?” Cunnigham said. “How could you be against bycicles?”

Lastly—as dogs Phoebe and Hayden wobbled back to the back yard after slobbering up their dinner—Cunningham touched upon the issue of corruption, which he said he sees invariably linked to development in town.

“Development is critical. It’s tied to corruption,” Cunningham said. “The culture of corruption in this town has stifled our opportunities to be world class.”

During the last council meeting, Cunningham voted for an ordinance, introduced by the mayor, that would tighten wheeling restrictions, meaning that it would prevent moving money from one donor to another to avoid campaign finance restrictions. (The ordinance didn't pass.)

With less than a month left until city-wide ward elections, Cunningham said the new law came too late and should have been introduced a year ago.

So why wasn’t it done, then?

“I don’t know,” Cunnigham said. “The water front was falling into the river. There were so many things we had to address.”


InfotainMe

7:03 am on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

I want to get one of those Staples "That Was Easy" buttons. But instead it will be Peter saying "You're Done" to Lane. I could listen to that all day.

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Hobbs

7:22 am on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Peter Cuningham has been doing a good job for not only the Fifth Ward but all of Hoboken and should be re-elected.

There is much more work to be done and Hoboken's Culture of Corruption in Hoboken fear Peter and those who stand up against them.

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HobokenOwl

8:09 am on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

I agree with the previous two posters. Cunningham has done an outstanding job in the 5th and should be re-elected to continue in this fashion. And I love the "You're done" button. Let's make those and hand them out!

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Redrider765

8:25 am on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

And let's not forget he is honest, he can read a financial statement, he doesn't buy votes, he doesn't back people that buy votes and he doesn't have the backing of people who buy votes. You can't say that about at least 2 of his opponents.

p1ywood

10:49 am on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Mr Cunninghams's agenda is right on the money. If we ever want a Hoboken where developers don't call the shots, where we end up with amenities such as a municipal swimming pool, we are going to need Mr Cunningham and others like him prudently managing our budget. Don't give "faux independent" mouthpieces for developers like Mr Delea a chance to undermine the progress of the last few years with a lot of election year rhetoric. Mr Cunningham has more than earned our ongoing support. Thank you, Mr Cunningham.

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Redrider765

10:58 am on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Delea is not independent by any stretch of the imagination. He was a supporter of Occhipinti in November and showed up at the opening of Mason's campaign HQ. He is completely a part of the Russo/Mason machine and cannot be trusted at all.

Hobbs

12:09 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

In a crowded field Councilman Cunningham is the best choice for the Fifth Ward and Hoboken .

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perry belfiore

12:40 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Hobbs,
I am shocked you would think that. I guess you haven't minded being over taxed $10,000,000.00 for the last 3 years.I read the last paragraph as to why concurrect policies weren't persued I am confused chrildren still play soccer in Weehawken soisn't the waterfront still falling into the river.
Perry

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Redrider765

12:49 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Does Scott need to explain to you again how full of horse pucky you are? Or are you going to save him the trouble and just retract your financially illiterate comment? Please, as someone w/ a degree in finance, can you please just stop making false, misleading and/or grossly misleading comments? It is pathetic how many times the "surplus" has been explained to you and you still can't understand it.

perry belfiore

1:01 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Well Red
Riddle me this-we have $25,000,000.00 in surplus against which phantom encumberances are attached to the tune of $9,000, 000.00+. $9,000,000.00 is rebated and $2,500,000.00 was rebated last year. If the taxpayers of Hoboken weren't over taxed $10,000,000.00 per year,for the last three years-did Hoboken turn in a winning lottery ticket. The taxpayers of Hoboken have simulaneously been over taxed and under served. All the while children are charged $25.00 to play soccer on fields in Weehawken.

Perry

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Hoboken1653

1:11 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

So we should believe Peter Cunningham's version of the numbers, Peter works in finance, or the guy who stood shoulder to shoulder with Cammarano and Tim "40 bucks a vote" Occhipinti?

I'll take Cunningham

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HobokenOwl

1:22 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Perry,
You're no dummy, so please stop acting like you don't understand what's going on. Scott has explained this is minute detail multiple times both online and at meetings. I don't believe you needed his explanation, but maybe you did. All I know is that at this point you're knowingly putting forth false facts for no good reason as far as I can tell.

Here's a question for you -is your end game to win the 5th personally or to gather enough votes for Delea (aka Pupie's puppet) to win the runoff & you to get something for your troubles?

Thanks.

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Hobbs

1:32 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Holy bloviated sesquipedalian Batman !

Everyone knows that Mr. B is not to taken seriously.

He is the joker in the race.

Always was.

BAH HA HA

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Redrider765

1:37 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Perry, are you really that stupid that you are going to spout that lie? It isn't a phantom encumbrance on cash, it is a non-cash book entry to account for the overspending during the Roberts administration that is being amortized over a period of time. There is no extra $9mm that is encumbered because it was spent already. You have it completely backwards if you think that cash actually exists anywhere but in your imagination. That is why I could never ever in a million years vote for you b/c you just can't at all understand what the hell you are talking about (not to mention your involvement in Timmay's vote buying binge).

Scott M. Siegel

1:10 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Yup let's try it one more time:
http://www.hobokennj.org/docs/businessadmin/auditor-letter-3-23-11.pdf
What is the cash surplus according to this letter?
If Perry had taken a course at my alma mata Rutgers on municipal government (like Eric kurta and Rami Pinchevsky) he would know that NJ guidelines (and probably every other state in the USA) require municipalities to run a surplus. Neither Scott or Lenny understand this either. Unusual events do occur. You don't get a 22% increase in NJ pensions every year, or tax appeals, greater numbers of retirements, piers collapsing, etc. Perry you are a home owner. Do you think it's prudent to live pay check to pay check or do you keep a 6 month reserve or something similar? I hope you keep a reserve for contingencies. I assume you want Hoboken taxpayers to pay 100% of the waterfront rebuilding according to your statement. I think it would be better if we supplement our cash with grants and matching grants. We will need a surplus for matching grants.

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perry belfiore

1:33 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Scott,
Only a matter of time before you started your spin. Let go with the facts. Dave's last budget was short $10,000.000.00 Judy came in increased the rate by $10,000,000. 00 and of course sent out tax bills for 5 quarters producing the much spoken about 47% tax increase. The following two years we went back to a 4 quarter year but the $10,000,000.00 underfunded remained so we have been paying for the under funding for the last 3 years-that is why we have a $25,000,000.00 surplus after rebating $2,500,000.00 last year. No saving produced the surplus-pure over taxation.
Perry

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HobokenOwl

1:39 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Perry,
You're no dummy, so please stop acting like you don't understand what's going on. Scott has explained this is minute detail multiple times both online and at meetings. I don't believe you needed his explanation, but maybe you did. All I know is that at this point you're knowingly putting forth false facts for no good reason as far as I can tell.

Here's a question for you -is your end game to win the 5th personally or to gather enough votes for Delea (aka Pupie's puppet) to win the runoff & you to get something for your troubles?

Thanks.

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Scott M. Siegel

1:39 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Stop lying already. Anyone can make a mistake, but you refuse to listen or look at reason. The citizens of the 5th Ward deserves better than you and your ilk. I urge 5th Warders to reelect Peter Cunningham if you want sanity to rule.

Hobbs

1:55 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

I think Perry understands that what he is saying is not true but truth is not the point he needs to cloud the issue, repeat the same lies and even when confronted.

Big words and small morals are his stock and trade .

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Redrider765

1:58 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

You mean he is lying. I agree. It is too bad that the people who oppose Zimmer can't just find some honest people who honestly disagree with her. If they had, maybe I'd consider voting for one of them. But no way I'd ever vote for someone who lies constantly. I'd rather just vote for an honest person I disagree with than a liar.

greenhaven

2:41 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Perry- Word on the street is that you're a side show - not the real candidate. Delea is the anti-zimmer "chosen one" and you'll be lucky to get 100 votes. That would be pretty embarrassing - being skunked by a pseudo-yuppie pretty boy like delea. I think that would be more humiliating than losing to Cunningham 4 years ago - but I guess your desperation has robbed you of even a semblance of pride.

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FAP

3:41 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Perry if you're taking the race seriously where is your Elec report?

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perry belfiore

4:18 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Oh Green,
Word on the street in the 5th is ABC -Anyone But Cunningham. Keep trying to spin.
Perry

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FAP

4:23 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Ahem, Elec reports. Perry where are yours?

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Redrider765

4:25 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Sorry buddy but ABC stands for Anyone But Crooks. Honest taxpaying folks want Cunningham.

Enough

4:30 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

I'm with Perry's ABC -- Easy as 1,2,3. Simple as do-re-mi. See you all in June.

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Hobbs

4:32 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

I thought ABC stood for - Another Belfiore Crook

As Perry has stood shoulder to shoulder with most of Hoboken's most notorious crooks.

Big words and small morals. :-)

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perry belfiore

6:28 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Careful Hobbs.
The days of trying to pigeon hole people as old guard and crooks as Cunningham tried on his facebook page are coming to a close. Believe that those who long for competent government are not corrupt, just against vacuity. The taxpayers of Hoboken want their over taxed dollars back. If we keep listening to Siegel spin not only don't won't we have a surplus but we will be in deficit. The Auditor said we have $25,000,000.00 surplus, of course under threat of contract non renewal, the encumberance pop up. Do you know that $6,000, 000.00 in encumbrances is a depreciation of a debt paid, leaving the taxpayers of Hoboken to pay the same debt twice. I have been knocking on doors and the people knowthey have been over taxed and under served. Forde-what about those lottey tickets and the PAC you are treasure of.
Perry

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Hobbs

1:15 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

LOL

Your record with Hoboken's most infamous crooks is what we are talking about.

Your big words and small morals have made you the bloviated sesquipedelalian mouth piece for Hoboken's Culture of Corruption in the eyes of many.

Rant on :-)

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Hobbs

1:16 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

How about Beth Mason's PAC she had her airline stewardess set up....you getting some of that $ ?

greenhaven

6:34 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Perry - they are laughing at you, and the laughter will get louder after Delea cleans your clock. Its hard to tell who takes you less seriously these days - the Zimmer crew or your own supposed "friends." I'm betting you don't break 100 votes - Delea beats you by about 300 and Luizi pretty much breaks even with you. I hope you keep your sense of humor when the laughter starts.

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perry belfiore

6:56 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Green,
At least I have never taken comfort hidding behind a Pseudonym . I am out there win or lose, you sit in the dark waiting for a intervention. You don't understand the point of the exercise is better representation for the 5th Ward. ABC. Time to add to the 100 votes. Until tomorrow. TTFN
Perry

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greenhaven

7:58 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Believe it or not I am rooting for you. You would be a far better councilman than Delea who believes in nothing and will betray old hoboken in a flash. He practically begged Zimmer for a spot on her ticket but unlike your "friends" she knew better than to trust him. Unfortunately, the powers that control the bulk of your potential vote have stabbed you in the back - taken your support for all these years only to bypass you for the new Cammarano - Scott Delea. It seems you yourself are plan B destined to be shunted aside for the new plan A. Good luck Perry. I for one am rooting for you and hope you get the last laugh - at least in the first round.

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Redrider765

7:59 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

A dishonest person who can't read a financial statement is not an improvement over Cunningham.

And u idiot, the $6mm is an asset that is being amortized. There is no cash. There is also no debt associated with that NON-CASH asset. The debt was paid a couple years ago with cash, we booked an asset that was added to the surplus in an accounting entry and it is being amortized over time as we expense it over several years. That amortization expense is a NON-CASH expense. But at least now even you are admitting you are dead wrong about there being $25mm in cash there (almost). Now do us all a favor and stop spouting the same lie over and over again.

And to anyone who cares to see the actual cash balance, go to the city website, read the letters from the auditor and the budget presentation and please don't pay attention to financially illiterate people like Perry.

Scott M. Siegel

7:15 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Re ABC. Tell that to the 300 people who took his window signs that are everywhere.

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Redrider765

7:59 pm on Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Not to mention all the people who won't need to get paid to vote for him.

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2ndWardAl

11:05 am on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

When are you going to tell Greaney to stop lying? He hasn't lived here since 2003, he does not have 20 years of management expirience, and he does not have 10 years of community service here. At least Cunningham lives here, we know that by how often he parks his car illegally!.

I used to think Tom was a stiff now I know he just stiff businesses on money he owes!

http://hoboken411.com/archives/63398#comments

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Redrider765

11:19 am on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

A. He never denied living in areas around Hoboken during that time period so it isn't a lie (plus - most of us don't restrict our view to 1 mile square and think a person must live in that tiny geographic area for X of years to be qualified for anything)
B. Show me where on his resume it says he doesn't have 20 years experience doing whatever it is you deny he did/does for a living
C. Community service anywhere is laudable so why should I care if he did it outside of Hoboken instead of inside of Hoboken?

BTW - Beth tanked a company or two during her short pathetic career before she resorted to baking cookies and watching soap operas for a living. But doubt you care.

Oh - and good job in promoting 411's hit piece and making sure you brought up all the major points Mason asked you to bring up in that phone push poll she was running a while back. She sure is getting her money's worth on this smear. Makes me wonder if she is going to flush another million down the toilet on this political race. Between the vote buying, the hit pieces, the stalkers/thugs, the paid bloggers, the phone polls & the TV ads she is really spending money fast.

HOBO87

10:35 am on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

Peter Cunningham has done a good job as 5th Ward Councilman. Moreover, there is no credible alternative. Perry Belfiore is unembarassable, just won't stop proudly displaying his ignorance about the 'surplus'. Proud Ignorance was once a pillar of Hoboken politics and a big vote getter and still is in some quarters, but times are changing, as Perry himself was quoted as saying in his now infamous comparison of the 'plight' of the BNR's to apartheid South Africa. The meteor has hit, dinosaur.

Scott Delea is another 'independent' we can't trust not to side with the Mason/Russon crime family, no thanks. I've never heard of the other guy.

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2ndWardAl

12:20 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

@Redrider765:

If you actually read the story and the documentation that links to it, like most educated people do, you will see Greaney lists his occupation in Japan as a School Teacher. If he was a teacher from 1996 to 2003 it means he has only worked in HR for the past 7 years.

Even if he started in HR from 1988 to 1996 before he fled to Japan that is 8 years. Add that to the 7 years from 2003-2011 and it is just 15 years expirience. He does not have "over 20 years expirience".

Greaney repeatedly said that he lived in Hoboken since 2003. He was misleading at best if not out right lying. It has nothing to do with living in Hoboken or not it has to do with misleading the public. And he does it in his literature and in stories in the Hoboken Reporter.

Greaney is a snake just like Lenz and just like Soares. You'd have been better off running Mr. Siegel. At least he is honest even if people don't always agree with his opinions.

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Hoboken1653

12:29 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

Still a better option than Mason.

Does Greaney sponsor the Russo crime family? No, Mason does
Does Greaney lie about the budget? No, Mason does
Has Greaney screwed the taxpayers by not supporting rightsizing the muni workforce? No, Mason did
Will Greaney spend $ 500,000 in a lust for power for a job that pays $25k? No, Mason will

Mason is a cancer on this town. She needs to go

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Redrider765

12:45 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

Funny, the man is something like 50 and you ignore about half his working career and have to qualify your statement w/ the word "if" because YOU HAVE NO CLUE what he has done for a living, where and for how long. Maybe if you weren't using a source PAID FOR BY MASON you could rely on what they write.

Even if it is all true, I agree, still a better option than that lying, scheming, vote buying fraudster Mason and her minions. We don't need more crooks in office and Mason is not only a crook, she funds the illegal behavior of others.

2ndWardAl

1:10 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

Greaney, Marsh, Soares, and Lenz supported Russo for City Council in 2003.

Greaney stood by Lenz and Soares when they cut a deal for Russo's vote to get Soares a 2nd job with free health care.

Greaney screwed banks out of thousands now he wants to be in charge of a HUGE surplus.

Greaney is the worst choice for City Council. Zimmer should cut bait and make a deal with Franz.

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Hobbs

1:18 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

Beth Mason still supports the infamous Russo Family !

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Redrider765

1:21 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

Response to statement:
#1 - if Greaney wasn't involved in politics back in '03, then seems like you just disagreed with yourself w/ that comment (DUH)
#2 - like we care? Soares is far better than anyone Russo would have put up for the gig and he isn't running for office, neither is Lenz. And is your buddy Mike going to ask his mom & dad to reimburse the city for his free (and illegally provided) health coverage for the last decade or so? Who covered up that his coverage hadn't been canceled?
#3 - Mason screwed the banks too - she bankrupted her own company (try again there dummy)
#4 - Franz who? You mean the Mason spoiler candidate who is only in the race to help make sure we have a run off? You mean the candidate nobody sees anywhere doing anything? I'll laugh my head off if he gets more votes than Queen Beth (I think he might)

2ndWardAl

1:12 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

Lenz and Greaney perfect together but not for taxpayers!

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Hoboken1653

1:26 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

You really are afraid of this Mike Lenz who holds no position in hoboken. Is tying everyone you don't like to him supposed to scare people?

Is that somehow going to make Mason more likeable? People hate Mason for good reason

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Redrider765

1:29 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

We hate her b/c she lies, cheats, schemes and pays lowlifes in JC and Weehawken to sling mud here in Hoboken non-stop (like the guy we are both responding to). How many names will this piece of toe cheese post under today I wonder?

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Hoboken1653

1:36 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

I guess he needs to earn his check from Mason. I wonder if she pays per post?

funny thing is that she has ZERO volunteers. The only people who help her get a check or want to get money from her

2ndWardAl

1:36 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

The only people who hate Mason are the small clique of people with no live who hate being told they are wrong. Anyone who doesn't agree with Zimmer, Marsh, or Lenz is labeled corrupt or an out of towner. Except they are the ones who back corrupt politicians like Joe Vas and Angel Alicea.

Zimmer was happy to have Perry Klaussen on her payroll when she ran against Campos but since LEnz couldn't control him now he is vilified by the Zimmer bloggers of hate.

Mason is going to crush Greaney on May 10th because the people of the 2nd Ward see the work she has done to improve the community. Keep hating though. It is very amusing.

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Redrider765

1:41 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

You pretending you live in Hoboken is also amusing.

franksinatra

1:39 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

The main problem with Cunningham is that he keeps voting to raise taxes and then pretends he's a tax cutter in his ads. He voted to implement the parks tax in early 2008, and justified it by saying something about cutting other taxes to make up for it (which he later forgot all about, probably around the time he became a Democrat). Last year he voted for the $25 recreation tax THREE times, adding to the waste at the recreation department and discouraging many parents from signing up their kids for sports. But the real damage he's done to taxpayers here was his votes for the budgets the last two years that failed to avoid big tax increases. With Zimmer as mayor and Cunningham part of the council majority, the municipal property tax (not including the schools and county) went up 9.4% in 2009 and 4.4% last year. Is Cunningham embarrassed over this? Probably, because in his ad in the Hoboken Reporter the weekend before last, instead of admitting the truth he baldly tells this whopper: "Supported & enacted a 10% tax cut during the past 12 months." What tax cut is that, Peter? Why are you making this up? Don't you think we can read our own tax bills? Do you think we're so stupid you can just pretend there was a tax cut? Even if you're mixing up a tax cut with a tax levy cut, the levy certainly wasn't cut 10% last year. We can no longer afford a councilman in this ward who raises our taxes and then says he cut them.

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HobokenOwl

1:42 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

Frank- your first sentence is a bald faced lie. He has not voted to raise taxes. The recreation FEE is not a tax, it's a usage FEE. The municipal property tax went DOWN (check your bill), the county went up. The municipal levy is down 10% indicating a cut.

Keep lying Frankie.

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Redrider765

1:47 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

You call it a $25 tax, I call it a user fee. Any parent who couldn't afford the fee had it waived. Any parent that didn't want to pay the fee and could afford to do so and chose not too probably wasn't going to bother having their kid show up at any games either. I don't really care if they didn't sign their kids up for sports b/c it would have been a waste of taxpayer money had they done so.

And yes, since you insist on not looking at the budget which lists how much in taxes are collected, I think you are either stupid or deliberately misstating the facts to suit your own argument. And if you do look at the transitional year budget (which was the last 6 months of last year since it was a "stub" period), the levy was indeed cut by 10%. But why let a fact or two get in the way of your misinformation.

2ndWardAl

1:43 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

Greaney's attempt to pretend he lived here for over 10 years are laugh out loud funny! Go back to Liberty Towers you freak!

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franksinatra

2:44 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

Owl -- fee is one of the weasel words politicians use instead of tax. It sounds better but it comes out of our pockets all the same. And the last department that needed more money was the vastly overstaffed recreation department. The department has basically admitted the money is going into some sort of slush fund to pay for things as they come up. Zimmer ran on a platform of cutting taxes 25%. She didn't run on a platform of cutting taxes and then raising "fees" to make up for it.
And you're obviously not a homeowner because if you were you'd have a bill and you could see clearly that the municipal tax went up, as the county and school taxes also did. The year-end bill each year clearly breaks down the rate for each part of government and makes it easy to compare how much they went up over the previous year. From the city hall press releases, the levy was cut 2.5%, or 5% pro-rated over the year. You and Peter are making up that 10%.
And Rider, it was very poorly publicized that parents who couldn't pay didn't have to. The website does not mention that. The result is fewer kids playing sports this year and fewer teams in the leagues. Another Dawn/Cunningham legacy--more poor, minority kids on the streets and not playing sports.
And another thing Rider, you deliberately misread what I said (but I won't call you stupid). I clearly said I'm not talking about the tax levy, which is irrelevant to taxpayers, but the tax rate, which determines what taxpayers actually pay.

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Hoboken1653

2:49 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

WRONG. A tax affects everyone. A fee affects the users. If you don't have kids in the program you don't pay?

Get it? Of course you already know this. And stop lying, Muni taxes have not gone up

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Redrider765

2:58 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

No dummy, the levy determines what taxpayers actually pay. The rate is calculated by taking the levy divided by the assessed value of all the real estate in town. If you had at all been paying attention the last 2 years, you'd have realized tons of people in new construction appealed their obscenely high assessments so that changed how the levy was apportioned to taxpayers.

BTW - I will call you stupid b/c I do think you are stupid if you think people who lie, cheat & steal have any interest in cutting your taxes. (actually, I don't even think you live in Hoboken so you don't at all care about anything other than what Beth pays you to care about)

Anyway, to people who care about what taxes are really doing in this town, I suggest you all go to the city website and look at the budget instead of paying attention to the posters on Mason's payroll.

2ndWardAl

3:02 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

Taxes are up and crime is up. WAY UP!

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Redrider765

3:14 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

Only if you are retarded and you think the $54mm levy is higher than the $60mm it was a year or so ago. But hey, not like you are smart enough to figure out $54mm is less than $60mm (just like you aren't smart enough to figure out how to hit the reply button).

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2ndWardAl

3:42 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

Retardation is a serious mental illness and should not be used as an insult. If a non-Zimmer supporter used that word Tony Soares would be screaming about bigotry. Grow up. It is only $54 million because they are using the surplus for 1 shots. Taxes could be cut a lot more. Stop trying to argue both sides of the issue.

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Redrider765

3:51 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

Would you rather I just call you an idiot? Fine then, I'll stick with calling you stupid and be politically correct.

And now you are changing your story and claiming taxes are down and it is only a 1 shot deal? Come one, past time you admitted you are WRONG and that you are a LIAR. You can't have it both ways and claim taxes are going up when the levy is going down then change your argument and say that taxes should be cut a lot more.

BTW - taxes would not be going down at all if any of the people you support were elected b/c they all wanted more spending, bigger raises for city workers and more waste on make work jobs. But let's ignore that inconvenient truth b/c you don't want anyone paying attention to the fact that the people you support all support more spending and higher taxes.

franksinatra

4:50 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

Why do the Zimmer/Cunningham thugs have to resort to calling names every time they lose the argument? Why are these thugs unable to look at a municipal tax bill and see that it's going up? Why do they insist on changing the subject to tax levies when we're talking about taxes that people actually pay? Everyone who disagrees with them is a Beth supporter. I just wish Beth understood the tax issue. Zimmer/Cunningham have been raising taxes for two years and Beth hasn't said a peep (though she did vote against the recreation tax two times after she voted for it once).
1653: property taxes don't affect everyone, only homeowners, so why is that called a tax but you like the word 'fee' for the recreation tax? Maybe because it was Zimmer's idea? If it were Russo's idea I'm sure you'd be calling it a tax.
Remember voters -- Zimmer and Cunningham have raised our taxes four times in four years: parks tax, recreation tax, 9.4% municipal property tax hike in 2009 and 4.4% municipal tax hike last year. No amount of spin about tax levies and reassessments--and no amount of putting words like WRONG and LIAR in caps--changes those facts. That's what politicians do--they try to confuse the public with misinformation. And you folks are falling for that spin.

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Redrider765

4:56 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

Taxes went up in 2009 b/c Roberts spent like mad. They were flat in 2010 (DUH - look at the levy), down in the transitional year and down again for this coming year. Stop looking at the just the tax bill, stop lying. You and I both know that the tax bills only are a reflection of how taxes are allocated based on the TAX LEVY and the assessed value of property in town.

BTW - I only call a person stupid after they keep repeating the same lies over and over again. Stupid people bother me. You bother me.

HOBO87

5:28 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

'Taxes should be cut a lot more' claim the paid Mason bloggers, but the Russo/Mason alliance is against every action that would seriously reduce City expenditures, or increase the tax base, like making people with high incomes in Church Towers pay their fair share of property taxes. They only have stunts and gimmicks like telling the mayor to take another pay cut. Zimmer and Cunningham haven't done enough about it either IMO, but you have to make a choice and there is simply no credible alternative who can win in this town, as of now. You wish 'Beth Mason understood' the tax issue? But I understand Mason has allied herself with the people who want the high spending gravy train to continue, thus taxes could never be lowered. And let's not forget selling the town to developers as Mikey was seen doing on FBI tape, which is another reason taxes are so high. And then there are the 'independents' who are either Old Guarders with a long history of siding with the people and policies that made Hoboken taxes so high (Perryasaurus), and/or are taking money from Mason (Occhipinti, and why should I trust DeLea that he isn't too?)

The 'tax' argument by the Mason bloggers is a complete joke. Anyone who has lived here any length of time, actually pays taxes, and isn't stupid, knows it's a joke. I guess it's mainly aimed at taxpayers who just moved here, might not be familiar with the history of the issue, and a few of them might be fooled.
Don't be.

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franksinatra

5:36 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

Under your definition, Red, I guess I should call you stupid. But I won't. I won't stoop to that because I have the facts on my side. Stop looking at just the tax bill? But that's the only thing that tells me how much I'm paying. No one in this town cares whether the levy is $1 or a trillion dollars. Whether it went up 50% or down 50%. What you and the Zim/Cunning people don't get is that we care only about the amount on the check we have to write. What about that don't you get? There are two weeks left. Whoever gets that will get my vote.
Of course you're right on this: "tax bills only are a reflection of how taxes are allocated based on the TAX LEVY and the assessed value of property." But no one has ever disputed that. Not me. Not anyone. So why do you change the subject by bringing up this definition? You still miss the point: Zim and the council should have kept their promises and cut the levy enough to make sure we got a tax cut--either her infamous 25% tax cut or at least something. But instead of tax cuts we've gotten BIG tax increases under Zim/Cunning. That's bait and switch and my guess is the Zim people will pay for it May 10.
One more thing: your facts are wrong about 2009 and 2010. It was 2008 when we got the huge Roberts tax increase--66.4%. In 2009 taxes were supposed to go down but they went up 9.4%. And I would hardly call the 4.4% tax increase last year "flat." And don't talk about taxes going down in this coming year. We'll believe that when we see it.

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MadisonMonroe

6:07 pm on Wednesday, April 27, 2011

You tell him, Mr. Sinatra!

I sit here with tax bill in hand. Taxes higher in all three categories (municipal, school, county) in 2010. Them's the facts.

I would like to believe that the screechy redrider and his clan are paid bloggers from out of town because it's clear that they have no idea what's on a real Hoboken tax bill. But sadly, these are most likely our neighbors who just want to slime everyone who dares to read what's written on the bills sent out by the mayor's tax office.

I looked up Mr. Cunningham's 1009 Garden St. taxes with the handy tool available on the city website. http://wipp.edmundsassoc.com/Wipp0905/#taxPage5833
It says that he paid $16,384.85 in 2009 and $17,319.25 in 2010 (almost a $1,000 increase). And his bill for the first half of 2011 is $8,659.63 --- that's half of the 2010 rate.

So where is that 10% cut that Mr. Cunningham is bragging about? He owes a thorough explanation to the fifth ward residents (his fellow taxpayers) whose votes he covets.

I know -- who's on first? Tax levy.

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Tingley

10:40 am on Thursday, April 28, 2011

I can't stand Cunningham. He is anti-rent control, anti-tenant. Wife's a total jerk. I love this:

"Standing in his kitchen, preparing food for his Burmese Mountain Dogs Hayden and Phoebe"

Hayden and Phoebe? Dogs named Hayden and Phoebe. Hey Cunningham, what happened to the Hoboken Dog Association you started? Oh right, that was just to establish your base - it served its purpose so its no longer useful. This is what all these two-bit professional politicians do. See Delea's Party with a Purpose, Occhipinti's Volunteers for Hoboken. The so-called "reformers" (who don't exist anymore but anyone who opposes the machine group gets that label) are as phony as the machiners. Let's be honest: there is no one running in any of these wards who is impressive (possible exception: Kurta - I can only hope). Sorry but the new people (read Republicans) are as untrustworthy as as the old guard crooks.

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Redrider765

11:19 am on Thursday, April 28, 2011

Well, to each their own. But his Bernese (they are not from Burma) Mountain Dogs are friendly as hell and I thought he was quite personable as well. His wife I've never met so I can't comment on that. He also does want to lower taxes, control spending and make sure if the city is doing something, they do it well and at the lowest possible cost w/o sacrificing quality. When you want something, he is by far the most responsive person on the CC. Nobody else returns as many emails (several like Mason, Russo & Castellano never respond). When people bring up the budget or the surplus, he doesn't fabricate answers or twist things out of context. You may not like where he stands on an issue, but at least he won't lie to your face or sell you out to the highest bidder when you aren't looking. You have a choice. Do you want an honest person you may disagree with or a dishonest person you might think you agree with but you really aren't sure b/c they are dishonest as hell. I'll stick w/ the honest person every time when given the choice.

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InfotainMe

9:45 am on Saturday, May 7, 2011

Finally - the real issues. Dog names.
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You aren't actually taken in my Timmy's "charity" are you? If he's not re-elected see if it lasts a day. See if he ever comes to another council meeting. Campos II.

David A. Liebler

11:13 am on Thursday, April 28, 2011

Cunningham has done nothing for open space! The Henkel conversation is a joke and Peter and Dawn both know it. Peter is for budgets and finance was his mo in his 1/2 page hudson reporter ad?? No where does it talk about improving the community by building more open space, parks, fields..........
Henkel will be cleaned up by BASF and bid out to the highest bidder ....and we dont have $30 million to give them...besides the clean up will take years and that is only after a final negotiation. So What is Peter doing to improve Hoboken's Open Space and Fields Issue?
Nothing. More politics. Peter is a talking piece for the mayor nothing more. IN 4 years he accomplished nothing for the ward or Hoboken that he can say was truly his idea. The Ward has so much potential and yet it still looks like part of the Industrial Hoboken Past........
Peter is better off spending more time with Hayden and Phoebe :)

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Hobbs

11:20 am on Thursday, April 28, 2011

Well as usual your wrong again but we understand that is your function to pretend to be independent while attacking for the anti Administration cabal . :-)

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FAP

11:29 am on Thursday, April 28, 2011

Speaking of jokes, the Liiiiibler is back :) I guess when you get your talking points from Ursa it's hard to see the gains Hoboken has made.

David A. Liebler

11:29 am on Thursday, April 28, 2011

Hobbs and your function would be to bash anyone that does not vote or agree with the Mayor!
Peter has not risen to the challenge of bettering his Ward. He does not stand for Open Space!
He stands for nothing. He waits to hear what the Mayor wants and nothing more.

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Hobbs

11:39 am on Thursday, April 28, 2011

Sorry not a professional social media guru like yourself Mr. Liebler. I do this as a hobby.

I know it doesn't play to your script but Councilman Cunningham has along with then Councilwoman Zimmer who put forward the Open Space fund which is paying for the $20,000,000.00 bond issue to purchase new open space in Hoboken.

Unlike the obstructionist you support they have been moving Hoboken forward.

David A. Liebler

11:32 am on Thursday, April 28, 2011

FAP you are hysterical. It is almost as funny as when you get up and speak at a council meetings with your notes from Dawn. I love it when your so dramatic with your outrage!!!! Does the mayor coach you with that or does someone else from the peanut gallery?

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Hobbs

11:43 am on Thursday, April 28, 2011

David your staged rants in front of the City Council are much funnier especially when people understand your motivation. :-)

Yet not as funny as the sesquipedalian Peter "Perry" Belfiore.

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Scott M. Siegel

12:11 pm on Thursday, April 28, 2011

David: Perhaps if you lived here for 26 years as I have you would understand Hoboken's industrial history. From Henkel to Maxwell we have a tremendous amount of industrial pollution. Review the recent article about 14th and Willow or Neuman Leathers. It can take 2-3 years to clean up some sites. EPA controls the process. Henkel is further complicated with the BASF takeover. BASF has to deal with many properties and legal issues. I doubt that Hoboken is at the top of their concerns. You can't blame anyone, it's a slow, long drawn out process. Unless of course you want our children to play on toxic polluted fields.

Redrider765

11:33 am on Thursday, April 28, 2011

Liebler - you are just upset b/c Cunningham and the residents of the 5th ward have told your paymaster to go jump in a lake b/c they don't want what URSA and you are peddling.

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HobokenOwl

12:09 pm on Thursday, April 28, 2011

Liebler, you putz, you don't even live in the 5th and probably haven't been there. If you had been there, you'd know that there are many new condos up and it does not look like something from the industrial past. You're wrong (again) and your rants would be funny if they weren't written at a 2nd grade level.

You really are a wannabe. But you're going to end up a Never Was.

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Redrider765

12:38 pm on Thursday, April 28, 2011

Liebler believes whatever you pay him to believe.

MadisonMonroe

2:44 pm on Thursday, April 28, 2011

Redrider said, "Stop looking at the just the tax bill..."

That sums up the administration's main talking point.

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khoboken

2:48 pm on Thursday, April 28, 2011

You are an idiot. That sums up your contribuiton to the dialogue

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Redrider765

3:06 pm on Thursday, April 28, 2011

You forgot that he is a paid idiot from the next town over.

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