Should the Hoboken School District Change to a Junior High School Model? [POLL]
A meeting about the question will be held this week.
On Wednesday night, Hoboken's parents are invited to partake in an information session about the future of the school system.
At 7 p.m., Superintendent Dr. Mark Toback will answer questions at the High School auditorium.
Rather than adopting a middle school model in the district — which was discussed last year — Toback said he is now looking into the option of a junior-senior high school.
We want to know from you — what do you think? Answer our poll!
Redwing forever
3:05 pm on Monday, March 11, 2013
Teachers in the Hoboken high school said it is no good,
HobokenTownie
3:56 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013
Are those the same teachers who year in and year out keep ranking at the bottom of state educators?
Since when do employees get to vote?
CCL
1:16 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
I can believe it
CuriousGal
3:08 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013
Grasping at straws? Let's change the district YET AGAIN so low test scores can be blamed on reconfiguration. Just keep things changing and in flux so the district can always be in a state of make believe improvement. Kids First wanted to go to the K-8 model, then middle schools, now they want to put 12 years old with 19 year olds-- any wonder the district is in free fall?
CCL
1:16 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
True
Adrienne Rawlins
3:08 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013
I was against 8th grade being added to the high school. Kids aren't ready just yet and now you want to add 7th graders? Crazy. These kids are NOT ready.
Michael Evers
3:08 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013
I have a child at Hoboken High School and am favorably impressed with what they are doing there. For example, the move from the IB to AP was a great idea.
However, I'm wondering if this need to reshuffle things on such a regular basis isn't counterproductive. Maybe we'd be better off focusing on incremental changes for awhile and giving the changes brought about from the last reshuffling a little time to work?
franksinatra
8:16 pm on Tuesday, March 12, 2013
The plan all along was to put both 7th and 8th grades in the high school, but after moving the 8th graders, the previous super didn't follow through, got distracted by other issues, and the 7th graders never moved. You really need to move both grades there to make it work. The 8th graders are orphaned there now. For switching classes and having a full complement of middle school teachers and programs, the two grades really must be together. There are many, many high schools around the state using this system--including in Weehawken and Jersey City, not to mention the Hudson School right here--and they don't encounter problems. The junior high grades are effectively segregated from the high school grades, the greater facilities and programs make for a richer education, and the initial objections quickly fade away. Hoboken High's central location is ideal for this set-up. Back when Gagliardi was super and also HS principal, all Hoboken public school kids wore uniforms. Kids First never liked uniforms and got rid of them, even after a vote of the parents and children overwhelmingly voted for uniforms in 2009. Bringing back uniforms would help because the junior high kids could wear a different color from the high school kids and be clearly differentiated from each other for staff to keep tabs on. Curious Gal, I'm usually with you, but this may be the first time Kids First and Super Toback will actually do the right thing.
CuriousGal
10:33 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013
franksinatra- I don't recall 7th graders being part of the plan, at least what was communicated publicly, but if you say it was, I don't doubt you. IMHO there's been far too much reconfiguration in Hoboken over the past number of years. The constant reconfigurations all have overemphasized the positives and minimized the negatives- at least in the initial adoption phase. And whenever pressed about student scores, achievement, or deportment-- the public is told "we're in transition"-- its getting old and people have lost patience. Hell is full of good meanings, but heaven is full of good works. From what I can tell, little in the Hoboken Public Schools these days resembles good works.
hm
9:27 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013
The only reason for this move is to make room for the huge number of Pre K - 1 classes. The older kids are being shuffled around because some of our public school buildings are occupied by Charter and Private schools that rent space. Take back Rue and Demerast and make them Pre K-8 and there will be no more overcrowding issues. Everytime parents ask why our kids can not use Demerast we get "the Charter school and BOE are there". Last I checked they were public school buildings and should be available for the public school children that need them. 7th and 8th graders do not belong in the high school. As for the Hudson School, they have about 200 students from 5th - 12th grade. The public school has about that many in just 7th and 8th grade. It may work fine for a school that is small, but we are talking about 700-800 students.
CCL
1:16 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
I agree ...
CuriousGal
2:49 pm on Sunday, March 17, 2013
I don't believe parents would be willing to entertain sending their 7th grade children to HHS if they were aware of the violence and vandalism in that school. Since January, four students have been suspended for hitting teachers
HobokenWatch
1:30 pm on Thursday, March 28, 2013
Did anyone hear or read about if Dr. Toback took this job? Or, has applied to other districts?
http://www.wmur.com/news/nh-news/Manchester-superintendent-finalists-meet-the-public/-/9857858/19467146/-/12iwxuo/-/index.html
Redwing forever
9:51 am on Friday, March 29, 2013
i hear hes up for new job in NH