With no campaign staff and no budget, Kurt Gardiner wins almost a third of the vote and some areas including a district in the 2nd ward of Beth Mason outright!

Kurt Gardiner pulled over 1500 votes as a first time candidate off the line!

How did he do pull off that shocker?

MSV has that story:

http://hobokenhorse.com

No, just do care for douche bags posing as public servants, got that Ba-Douche?

If the Stick is such a Tool, then why did Mayor Zimmer stay neutral?

So let's turn to the next election: will she back Menendez and Sires or just stay neutral?

Are you saying Stick is a Tool ? LOL

"In New Jersey, any voter can now vote by mail in any election. You do not need a reason to Vote by Mail. Don't feel like going to the polls? Simply vote by mail. Now there is "no excuse" not to vote! " - http://www.nj.gov/state/elections/mail-in_doe.html

There is only 1 reason over 500 people vote by mail in the 4th ward and that reason is they get paid to vote.

Lots of people vote by mail because they dont have the time to go and stand in line. Time is money, and half an hour to an hour (worst case scenario, urban election, crowded precinct, several hours) is more money than they feel they can spare. Also, lots of older people do it because they are less mobile. Mail is easier for them. Americans overseas do it because they have no other way to vote. Maybe they are overseas working to support their families here.

Don - I will give you the benefit of the doubt and just pretend you never looked at say Tim Occhipinti's campaign filings and cross referenced that w/ who in the 4th ward requested absentee ballots. Had you done that little exercise, you would notice a shocking number and percentage of names that appear on both lists.

People can prove things with statistics, incredible things. Statistics are amazingly useful. I have a friend who has put people guilty of genocide, people whose names were household words, and not in a good way, in jail for the rest of their lives with statistics.

Don - in one of those campaign filings, the one filed before election day, 79 of 80 people who got 40 checks also got an absentee ballot. That is not a coincidence. That is a correlation. And things like that happen every election cycle in that ward. That is a pattern. Face it, the 4th ward is for sale.

Anger burns

It's a victory, a Reform victory you can't spin. With not even a thousand bucks, Kurt Gardiner won a third of the Hoboken vote and some areas outright!

How does that compare to Pupie's quarter million layout for about 2400 votes? LOL

The only cyberbullies beaten back are you and prosbus/HQ the political operatives working for the Machine - Pupie Raia and Beth Mason.

How else do you think Gardiner pulled all those votes? LOL

I wish the Hoboken Questioner, and his friends prosbus, MadisonMonroe and Enough, would consider answering some questions for a change. In case anyone forgot, I have a few...

As long time, experienced majority, encumbants, I assume the hudson county heads expect Russo and Castellano to turn out the vote in their hometown. What was the vote total? 5k for JC heights/Hoboken and Weehawken? 1500 of those votes were for Gardiner. It's highly likely that most, if not all, of Gardiner's votes came from Hoboken.

I am no politcal analyst but Kurt Gardiner was able to pull 1500 people out to vote in a sleeper election, spending a total of $1,500. He pulled 30% of the vote with little effort. I am not really sure how this is seen as a win in OOC and others eyes.

Pay attention. The incumbent won on the machines. Can't blame the mayor's loss on VBM.

The trains don't run too often from Secaucus on a Sunday. So there.

The video shows a highly orchestrated mob not listening to the fact that the council agreed to vote together and the minority actually negotiated with the buyer to get some concessions the majority should have been calling for in the first place.

John, you're a fool if you believe what you're saying & a liar if you don't. The minority got NOTHING other than a feel good letter from HoldCo. They were trying to save face (with the possible exception of beth mason who might actually believe she negotiated something, she's clearly not bright).

Yes, have to agree, John you are an idiot. The minority has no ability to negotiate anything. Not only that but everything in that feel good letter your boss read was already agreed to or announced by the buyer ahead of time. Please John, spare us from repeating the mindless insanity of your delusional boss. Just check her into a mental institution already. She is batshit crazy.

Don't you go congratulating Frank "Poopie" Raia. I deserve the accolades. I funded those votes, I mean campaign workers in the housing authority too.

They so love me.

Mr. Raia is no friend of mine, but he certainly seems to be friendly with your mayor. Remember how he got her elected?
Here's a reminder:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUqkH_2AgmE

Yes, OOC, it is good that you show due credit to your Mr. Raia, he should get the credit he deserves. Your Mr. Raia works hard for the people, and the people of Hoboken (and Secaucus) love him. Best wishes to you and your Mr. Raia!

OOC - are you saying Mr. Raia got Zimmer elected by riding in an elevator with him? Or are you saying that Mr. Raia committed crimes in support of Zimmer's candidacy as he allegedly did in support of Mr.Occhipinti? If its the latter, I urge you to provide the AG with whatever information you have concerning Mr. Raia's alleged crimes either in support of Zimmer or since so that they can consider your evidence as part of the reported ongoing investigation into voter fraud in Hoboken.

Kurt Gardiner took my third district in the 2nd ward. People hate me.
You failed me again prosbus/HQ. You failed me you POS.

Gardiner massively outspent, running off the line as an independent got 1500 votes?!
I'm humiliated. And you're a bullying cyberfool prosbus.

Don't even think about cashing my check.

Having been a longtime contributor to the National Democratic Party, I stopped in 2009 making any more donations, Every call and email request is met with the same response. Until the Democrats do something to weed out the corruption in Hudson County, I will not give any monetary support to the Party. Do I think that my lack of contribution hurts? No, but it makes me feel better.

And good morning to you too, Squealer! Looks like someone should be getting an extra serving of apples and milk today.

Quick note: vile isn't a noun. Propaganda should be more to the point in any event. That whole sentence is a bit of a train wreck. Stripped of excess baggage you'd have, "Damage is a house they must live in with real consequences." Doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.

Please re-write and re-submit.

There is not a single Democrat in Hoboken or the Jersey City Heights unhappy about last night's results or who regrets the financial contributions made in order to make last night a reality. There is no "machine"-- but there IS a Democratic Party and its leadership is concerned about the people in our community.

Pardon me for not believing that people who buy votes or engage in political gamesmanship around important issues like the hospital could care less about anything but "getting what's theirs".

" there IS a Democratic Party and its leadership is concerned about the people in our community."
They should be. Some first time runner garnered 30% of your vote with $1,500 and seemingly little effort- no ads, no office, and no politically organized campaign, in a sleeper election.

Face it, the county carried your candidate. Keep pulling stunts like the hospital and not transferring the bond; causing layoffs and who knows, you may go up against a "full on" campaign. Your numbers are set in stone. The county knows it- you know it.

What the hell do you expect from those people? They certainly have no respect for the law.

Castellano owns Marine View. That is the source of her political power. She scared them in May and they turned out in droves. It's sad but that's where the old guard power is drawn.

They rely on subsidized and public housing as their source to stop Hoboken from being a modern accountable government. It's worked for them till now.

They can't win by following the rules, so they break them. They rely the general public not knowing the laws and/or becoming disenfranchised.
In this town, every vote matters. if those outraged people get 5 friends to vote in every election, victory against this behavior can easily be won. Hoboken witnessed this this in 2009. The areas in the first ward (marine view towers area) and the second ward (upper hudson street) is easily winnable in a few more people show up. If you know people in those areas, ask them to register to vote and call them on election day, to remind them to vote. Hold Castellano and those who sidestep the law, accountable.

Well it didn't work - MVP is the only part of town the tenants won.

But, really there was tons of electioneering going on. At fox hill there were paid workers sitting in the polling place wearing vote no shirts. Same over in the projects.

The real estate lobby won and the tenants lost. But it really was won in a very dirty and unethical way. When you have to win that way it's because you know that your platform is inherently dishonest. And the real estate industry is.

There are real Democrats and there is the Hudson County Democratic Machine. They are not the same. I don't know many Democrats who love out of control spending, nepotism, waste, fraud, abuse of power, corruption and certainly can't name 1 who would have played Russian Roulette w/ the hospital the way the Beth Russo crowd did. I as a registered Democrat have nothing in common w/ the unethical people running the Democratic party in this part of NJ and do not at all consider them a part of the same Democratic party that I joined. They are kleptocrats and ineptocrats.

The fliers Kurt had at the Port Authority cost something. All negative. Somewhat untrue as well. Kurt means well but he did not do much homework - he did not know the proper borders of the district, he was confused about the what are county parks and roads and what are not and he claimed Romano supported the county budget 3 years in a row - Romano actually voted no on two of those budgets. Also, Kurt is quoted in this week's Reporter as wanting to run again in 4 years. Romano must be delighted to hear that seeing how the freeholder term is 3 years. The process of creating "news" on partisan blogs that can then filter out into the larger politcal consciousness is interesting and it worked for Kurt but it was not necessarily based on facts and might indeed be a signal that democracy is too easily undermined by efficient propaganda machines (Roman Bryce posts, Nancy Pincas and Kurt repeat enough until other media pick up their spin as news; any dissenters are hamnmered down on-line - I have actually been informed that if I post that the sky is blue I will be slammed down as stupid or criminal by the mayor's supporters) - the awesome power of the internet to create mob rule.

If this rambling, string-of-random-pot-shots-as-political-missive by Mr Keim is what Mr Romano is calling support, he is not in trouble in three years, he is in trouble now. It is very odd to see "sour grapes" comments from the winning side of an election and a week later at that. What would be your point here? Jeez.

John Keim- I can't help it if the Hudson Reporter doesn't know that the Freeholder is a three year term. I do and plan to run again in 2014. More misinformation: You claim I don't know the borders of my district. Please site evidence as such. I have the district map up on my website. Your wife Ines could probably help you with the geography since she campaigned so hard in 2008 but only got the same amount of votes that I got in JC Heights. Has she paif off her campaign debt yet? Why didn't Mrs. Richard Mason help?

John I did put a question to the voters that might be construed as negative. I asked voters why Anthony Romano is political pals with Beth Mason. Apparently that message worked a bit as a got 38% of the 2nd Ward running a limited campaign. You see John I borrowed a page from Beth Mason's campaigning style and she didn't like it very much as it worked to some extent. She should know a thing or two about neagtive campaigning.

No amount of spin can cover up the fact that the County takes Hoboken's tax money and we have very little to show for it. Romano now has another 3 years to prove to voters he will deliver more cheddar from Hoboken.

John- I did do my homework and Romano passed all three budgets from 2008-2010. One year that budget gave Hoboken a 10% tax increase. Romano's yes vote is on the copies of all three passed budgets 2008-10. Stop spewing falsehoods. Romano is a weak candidate and my intial run showed that. Stop the Quagmire in 2014!

Was there a moral victory for the Secaucus public in the election to replace the embattled Dennis Elwell? I don't know much about Secaucus politics and am just curious. A very curious party. Does anyone know? OOC, do you?

And immoral victories lead to criminal investigations. I'll take a moral victory over an immoral one rooted in criminal behavior any day of the week. Say hi to the FBI next time they visit!

Have a nice trip!
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Were your children born in the hospital the people you support tried to kill?

Why would anyone endorse Romano from the city council? In comparison to what Hoboken pays in county taxes we get diddly in return. Why continue that?

Why would anyone from city hall or the CC support a guy who consistently does nothing for this town? I am not surprised the mayor didn't endorse Kurt b/c she has to have a working relationship w/ Romano. But she certainly doesn't have to endorse the next to useless HCDO designated freeholder either.

Bitter much? Pull your weight!!

Eh, after backing Giachi and helping to kill the move in municipal election dates to November, why should we care? We don't and looks like most people in rent control don't either which is why they never showed up to vote.

Sadly it's more than big crap. That giant got over 1500 votes and when the other districts come in, it'll probably be over 1600.

Everyone can agree the attack on the rent control ordinance failed badly.
It's not dubious, in a small election, it's pretty much a landslide. Get over yourself.

Nothing dubious about it. The "No" vote won handily on the machines and had full official backing from across the political spectrum, in a rare show of unanimity. Why? Because the ordinance is fair and equitable to tenants and landlords alike, and almost everyone thought so except a small handful of greedy extremists who have proven they are happy to see Hoboken run into the ground so long as they can live here cheap, at below-market rents despite above-market salaries. Disgusting.

If there's anything "filthy" and "dubious" that went on, it's the way the "Vote Yes" group grossly misrepresented the facts of the issue in order to dupe, mislead, browbeat, strongarm and scare a few people into signing their petitions and voting with them, and then employed Mason-Russo smear tactics attacking the character, integrity and families of public officials who made "Vote No" statements.

It certainly didn't help the pro-shakedown group that their public face was Cheryl Fallick, a phony "activist" who has disgraced herself by endorsing the candidates and employing the tactics of Hoboken's pro-corruption contingent. She should feel right at home with all the other sleazebags who engage in government and politics exclusively for the purpose of rigging the system to line their own pockets.

Cheryl and her loyalists should take a long, hard look in the mirror. They are not among Hoboken's "good guys," and have lost all hope of ever reclaiming credibility.

Incidentally, I know a number of people who voted "no" specifically because of Fallick and her yippies' tactics and general manner of conducting themselves at public meetings, and who were especially disgusted with their efforts to block the election-date changes in order to keep turnout low for their profiteering-driven referendum initiatives. Nice work, yippies!

Kurt Gardiner will likely have OVER 1600 votes after the final numbers come in.
Anthony Romano has 38% of his vote via suspect absentee ballots.

THAT'S A FACT prosbus. Don't cash the check little man.

Just so you know - when you misuse the term "cyber bully" across 8 screen names people catch on. BTW, this, as you know spells the end for Romano. $100 grand spent to one and a half?

So Lame is unemployed and unemployable again? Shocker.

Poor prosbus. Did Mason bounce another check?

prosbus, the Hoboken411 cyber-thug smear-author calling others "cyber-bullies"? Your station manager thinks you quit politics. That's what you told him. HA!

Per those numbers, Kurt Gardiner got 38% of STICK'S VOTE. And those numbers are COMBINED with Jersey City's. Just wait until we get the Hoboken District breakdowns.

And Kurt spent 66 cents per vote while STICK spent $28 per vote.

You'll have to call the truth-messengers 'cyber-bullies' again. A pitiful defense. How about this: Waaaaaaaaaa! If you can't take the heat, get out of the 'kitchen'.

http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2011/11/kurt-gardiner-wins.html

Hoboken Answer- I don't have a crystal ball. I simply posted the latest official results (= facts). It may come as a surprise, but your speculation does not qualify as an official result. The official results will be out soon enough.

The information was sent to at least two different email accounts"

Good morning prosbus!
Have any political-operative efforts perpetrated by this Lane Bajardi fellow have led to any FBI interest in him and/or Elizabeth Mason? Has Mr. Bajardi been interviewed by any FBI agents? Have his activities been the subject of any FBI interviews? Is it true that Mr. Bajardi and his wife Kim sought to parlay their support for Elizabeth Mason and Peter Cammarano into City Hall employment? Have either of them collected any monetary compensation for any of their political-operative efforts?

Thank you very much, prosbus.

You people aren't exactly the progeny of Tom Paine....Lose = WIN; truth = lies; cyber bullies = truth messengers.... more Orwellian if you ask me.

If you got those emails and it gets out = kinda f*cked

Fact

Dipstick is done as a candidate for city wide office. Any talk about him for mayor in 2013 is over. GA had ti right - the county was afraid if what a effed up mess Bet and her minion Posbus/lame/whatever screen name he is using today, has made of the gravy train in Hoboken. From what I see, the 5th and th 6th are now firmly int eh reform colimn. The at alrage as well. So that leaves the old gaurd with cling to the 1,2,3,4 wards to deprive the Mayor of the crucial 6th vote. Bet is done - once she loses the next race for coucnil - forget abotu mayor in 2013 which is politicial suicide, that seat will go to reform. That leaves the old guard with Terry C and Mikey R in the 1st and 3rd wards and TIMMAY buying his votes in the 4th. Any more development in the SW will make it harder for the Old Gaurd to keep the 4th. The wheels of progress are slowly turning.

Prosbus- I wasn't supposed to do that well. Ooops.

Good afternoon cassandra!
Have any political-operative efforts perpetrated by this Lane Bajardi fellow have led to any FBI interest in him and/or Elizabeth Mason? Has Mr. Bajardi been interviewed by any FBI agents? Have his activities been the subject of any FBI interviews? Is it true that Mr. Bajardi and his wife Kim sought to parlay their support for Elizabeth Mason and Peter Cammarano into City Hall employment? Have either of them collected any monetary compensation for any of their political-operative efforts?

Thank you very much, cassandra.

LMAO

cASSandra!
That's it? Nothing else to say about the impending frog march?

The victim of a crime is always interviewed by the FBI you twit.

OOC, still fighting the Pro Mason/Russo fight until the end!! Gotta love it.

A regular old Baghdad Bob!!!!

Hello Outofcontrol! I hope you enjoyed Hoboken's parks today in your visit to our city.
You raise a valid point, I should answer some questions as well. Unfortunately I do not know the answers to your questions and will have to check with my goomar and get back to you.
In the meantime, please give my best to your Mr. Raia!
Thank you Outofcontrol, thank you so very much.

TB, you cancerous hag. Go play with yourself, excessively, in your Poopster supported love shack in the swamps of Secaucus. NOBODY CARES about your fantasies.

Clever Dawn, she saw the OPRAs coming for the e-mails and got the feds to put a lid on them. Not unlike her agreeing to forego trial in 2007 over her absentee ballot fraud in the 4th ward so we could pay for a third election and her reputation stayed clean while she was absolutely "not running for mayor" in 2009... we will not see the contents of the e-mails until after the 2013 mayoral elections. Let's see if we see the 25% tax decrease we were promised or if the big campaign issue is the hospital sale which now seems to have become her big camaign promise in 2009 although many people may remember otherwise...

I heard Dawn will be introducing Christie at the League of Municipalities convention. Gotta love her - a democrat through and through when it's convenient....

Dawn was very clever to figure out her emails had been hacked and call the FBI. Stop supporting criminals and the crimes they engage in and stop pretending the FBI is here for any reason other than the fact that someone committed a crime in this town.

Mr. Keim, I am sorry my previous comment struck a chord that prompted you to have it deleted but I mean it sincerely- political cycles come and go but nothing is more precious than your health and well-being. Please, get it looked into. Thank you very much Mr. Keim.

Why did you switch names? Stick w/ just one lady.

And Cassandra! All of a sudden claiming not to be on one side or the other. Creative!!

The Final results Probus posted are correct but a few projections and mistatements need correction.

Stan was one of 140 people that signed my petition however the bulk of signature collection was on me and me alone. I had at least 20 friends help me meet up with and get all 140 signatures in one day and did so in about 9 hours.

I did a few old school things like take out and ad in Patch and get some endorsements which no doubt helped. The bottom line is my turnout surpised people on both sides and the majority of time that I spent was talking to people directly and informally and then relying on their influence to spread the word. I also used social media and blogs to spread the message and get out the vote from my base.

I hired no campaign manager and no campaign workers. I am positive that if I ran a more traditional campaign with funds I could have done better in terms of percentages. 26% is a good start to build my base with for 2014.

BTW Prosbus- I love 1010 wins now. Everytime there is bad weather there is this buttery baritone voice that comes on every once and a while that is quite soothing and reminds me not to worry mother nature. Hard to believe that guy only has GED or High School Diploma. He should be Hoboken's communication officer or something like that rather than a two bit radio hack. Did he back the wrong choice for Mayor in 2009? Wow! That bushy eyebrowed boy has got talent!

Good afternoon prosbus!
Have any political-operative efforts perpetrated by this Lane Bajardi fellow have led to any FBI interest in him and/or Elizabeth Mason? Has Mr. Bajardi been interviewed by any FBI agents? Have his activities been the subject of any FBI interviews? Is it true that Mr. Bajardi and his wife Kim sought to parlay their support for Elizabeth Mason and Peter Cammarano into City Hall employment? Have either of them collected any monetary compensation for any of their political-operative efforts?

Thank you very much, prosbus.

HA!!!! The response by Reformerus_Gianticus is hilarious.

+1
Ines would be a constant embarrassment to any normal person, but John's posts have proven time and again he's not normal.

How do either of them have the gall to question anything ANYONE does when they're hiding a big 10% gap in their own campaign finances? How do they look at themselves in the mirror? BTW, Ines is REALLY stupid when she's drunk. It's hard to believe she gets dumber, but oh yes, she does.

Blah blah blah. Your wife's commitment to run and lose election after election is an embarrassment. Your wife's (and your?) blind devotion to a woman who uses her is embarrassing (that's Beth, btw, in case you can't figure out which woman I'm referencing). Your wife's signoff on Mason's elec reports that had illegal irregularities in them (checks to cash), something Scott Siegel pointed out repeatedly, is both embarrassing & potentially criminal (I will leave that to the FBI & lawyers to figure out).

I'd be pleased if the mayor's husband is greenhaven. Greenhaven is far more articulate and intelligent in his/her posts than you ever are. Good to see the town's free chief advisor (chief of staff or whatever it would be called on a mayoral level) is every bit as insightful as I've been told he is. Free services from someone intelligent - something you and your "friend" Beth Mason wouldn't know anything about.

LOL. Beth Mason has based her entire political career on negativity, smear campaigns and the Kiem's have been a large part of that negativity.

As one of the few Mason camp followers the Kiem's continue to try to justify their loyalty to those who so many have long ago rejected as being toxic to the future of Hoboken.

I asume you are not suggesting that had your campaign spent twice as much, you would have gotten twice the number of votes. There's no evidence I know of of a strict linear relationship between the two- although I'm sure there's some kind of correlation.

At the end of the day, on Election Day the Democrats of Hudson County voted for the candidate they felt best represented their core traditional Democratic values. And they did so in overwhelming numbers.

Oh my guess is that they voted for whom they were paid to vote. But I think you'd know a lot more about that than I do.

My spin? You're nutty. I'm calling it like I see it. As for the "message". I didn't get mine this morning. My tinfoil hat fell off last night while I was sleeping and I accidentally rolled over on it, so it's smashed to bits.

You're laughable.

Mr. Keim, please get help. Seriously. Civic-mindedness is always admirable, whether we agree with one another's politics or not, but you can't let this bickering nonsense supersede your obvious need to tend your health and wellness.

John - in kind contributions are required to be listed as expenditures and these are not. If that was the mistake, then it reflects a lack of understanding of how to fill out the ELEC forms - somewhat of a competency issue given how many times Keim has run herself or served as treasurer. I accept your explanation indicating that there was no actual malfeasance but based on how the forms were filled out there's no way to know that.

I hope you don't include Beth in your group of people who have done things prior to being elected??? If you do, I have a story for you to read, an expose if you will: http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2011/05/masons-resume-unravels.html

As for Ines' contributions - that's great. But here's the problem, she's now hitched to an unhinged woman's wagon & has irreparably damaged her own credibility by defending Beth Mason to her last breath. You're hitched to that wagon too, and I cannot wait to see what you have to say if/when Beth is arrested by the FBI (or at the very least exposed!). Even Jim Vance got off the crazy train. He might just be the smartest out of all of you "True believers."

Now I see where the basis of our disagreement is. Hoboken411, a pro-Mason site if there ever was one, rumored to be bought and paid for by Mason, is where the polarization of reform started. Perry K (and his probable ghostwriter Lane Bajardi) sought to drive out anyone who disagreed with Beth's position on any issue. Your wife, along with several of Beth's inner circle, were the people bashing and beating up on anyone who didn't agree with Beth's plan. I recall a couple of posters who really railed against Beth's vote on Church Towers and her secret meetings with Russo. Most of those posters were immediately banned. People like your wife defended Beth and said no secret meetings took place. Then, when the Dwek tape came out & Russo said he hand picked Beth's ticket, thus proving that yes, secret meetings HAD in fact taken place, you people still defended Beth & perpetuated the Russo lie that he was posturing.

Sorry if for reasons like the above (and if you want to continue, I'll be sure to post more examples of your hypocrisy & delusions, they're practically endless), I cannot ever take your wife, you, Beth Mason, Lane Bajardi or any other former reform supporter's opinion seriously on ANYTHING!

FTR - you aren't addressing the fact that her entire resume is a sham as exposed by GA, thus indicating we're in agreement on that point.

Completely agree. The divisiveness began when Beth decided she would buy what she wanted if she couldn't get it honestly. She wanted to control the message online so she bought 411 and hired tons of cronies to post for her and banned anyone who dared to disagree. She wanted to buy influence so she bought ads everywhere, sent out tons of junk mailers filled w/ her distortions, annoyed us w/ the never ending push poll calls & tried to get people to believe her message through sheer repetition. She wanted to be mayor so she tried to buy that by outspending everyone by a massive margin. Thankfully she failed but as a consolation prize she temporarily bought the CC Presidency when she bought herself a puppet on the CC to be her swing vote. And when she ran for reelection she went out and bought her seat so she could keep at least that. Beth and her money are the polarizing force, well that and her lying, cheating and scheming. Remove Beth and her bottomless bank account from Hoboken politics and Hoboken becomes a far better place.

And John - I guarantee you Beth is one person who absolutely would not be a better mayor than Dawn. She is just too dishonest and stupid to make a decent mayor. Personally I wouldn't hire her to do anything that required higher level brain functions or a shred of integrity.

You want less divisiveness - find someone honest to support. Honest people can agree to honestly disagree. Hard to honestly disagree w/ dishonest people like Beth.

I suggest Bob's right, if for no other reason than you actually seem to believe the distortion of truths you tell thus proving you're living in a delusion.

No Mr. Keim I suggest you need help because your arguments are increasingly irrational and hysterical and you seem to be the only person (aside from your wife and a few other Mason hangers-on) lacking the perspective to see what a fool you consistently make of yourself. Your posts are full to the brim with anger and devoid of logic. You seem to be willing to argue the sky is yellow if admitting it is blue benefits Dawn Zimmer in any way. You talk about polarizing angry commenters, but the bile and venom and complete absence of rational thought that comes pouring off the screen every time you post is genuinely disturbing, not in a political-disagreement sense but in a concern-for-a-fellow-human-being-who-is-obviously-disturbed sense.

Please, just check into it. Thank you very much, Mr. Keim.

That's why I like the old fashioned machines, even with the flaws.

The old fashioned machines provide an audit trail. Its clear that the untraceability of the Sequoia machines and the vulnerabilities like the ROM based attack, the return-oriented programming attack, and the seal-tampering attack make these kinds of machines.. (DRE machines) really a bad, bad situation that they should have never bought in the first place. They were warned in 2004 and 2005, but they ignored the warnings. Here is some more on the problems. Its really a pretty crazy situation. http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081020/1557562594.shtml and http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~appel/voting/Johnston-AnalysisOfNJSeals.pdf

If you search on the keywords that come up you'll find hundreds more articles going back years. I dont think anybody thought that such a long time would elapse while they ignored it and pretended NJ had a democracy, but they have.

Anyone know what type of voting machine used to be sitting in the Russo Civic Association?

Also see this spreadsheet document (the free OpenOffice will open it fine) which shows the strange discrepancies between signed in voters and vote counts registered by the Sequoia AVC Advantage machines in Montgomery County:
http://www.electionreformnetwork.us/sites/electionreformnetwork.us/files/Spreadsheet%20FINAL-Rev%20(2)_2.xls