I remember it being on a Friday in 1989, because I helped out a local bar for the day. Will never forget it. Idiots screaming for drinks and NOT tipping.

where did you hear that, or find that info? I checked at the parade committee's site and the link to the history has no information. I don't necessarily remember the parade 26 years ago, but as best as I can remember there was a St. Pat's day town ruckus not actually on St. Pat's day...and, it was always a Saturday.

Dawn Zimmer killed the Hoboken St Patrick's Day Parade.

Her next target will be the Italian Festival.

Her PAID for blogger minions are going into damage control mode below.

Clearly, Hoboken Questioner is trying to project his hate for the Italian Festival on others. It's weird. The Mayor has never spoken against the festival. Equally wierd is HQ's need to pretend those who speak the truths he finds inconvenient are PAID. That's simply made up.

They are business owners, not a charity.

True but let us not be confused by the rhetoric about the real reason why the bar owners shut their parade down.

And let's not confuse why the mayor cancelled the parade, she was pandering to the killjoys in town.

This is a town where people live, not a vomitorium.

Pay close attention here folks...Zimmer damage control...she is blaming the Bar Owners...WOW....that is dirty.

Rather, HQ, the bar owners have absolutely no control over how drunk their patrons get, right?

Who will fund a parade and who will you find to march in it? Bars and beer distributors won't fund a parade held on a weekday. The people who march tend to be at work on weekdays. Logistically it doesn't work on a Wednesday. And you sure as hell can't reschedule to a day like a Sunday when some other town that has been holding the parade on the same day for many years has those bands booked for their own parade. If the mayor had consulted people before trying to arbitrarily change the date, she might have realized that there was no way in hell her Weds. parade day change would work.

They did come up with a way. They moved the parade. Bold, swift, courageous, laudable, effective. You're partying anyway so the committee's unilateral decision to cancel should bother no one. This is a who cares? moment. Next!

A parade nobody bothers to show up for including the marchers just isn't a parade.

That was their choice, not the mayor's. They took their bat and ball and went home. Good riddance.

...and it sounds like the mayor's only offer was Wednesday night.

Zimmer strategy # 2 - Now she is blaming the Committee. (Before he PAID minions were blaming the Bar Owners...now they are going to put blame on the Committee)

Folks - 1 person is responsible for killing the St Patricks Day Parade - Dawn Zimmer. She has to go.

The parade committee (whoever these people are) knew a year ago that the parade was being moved to a weekday. They could have addressed these problems proactively and negotiated with the administration, but chose instead to wait until the last moment, and then act like petulant children.

As someone that is Irish I have always hated the suggestion that out-of-town drunken hooligans were a legitimate celebration of Irish heritage. I will happily find other ways to celebrate my Irish heritage that does not involve drunken 20 somethings urinating off a balcony.

Finally, as a long time Hoboken resident I applaud the mayor putting Hoboken citizen's first. The parade committe and the bar owners have no one to blame but themselves.

Question of the day: How will Beth Mason and her merry band of minions spin this to give the Mayor a black eye?

Ahh...yes..ZImmer strategy # 3 (the other 2 strategies were (1) blame the Bar Owners (2) blame the Committee) and now its blame the "Anti Zimmer Faction"....

Folks - 1 person is responsible for killing the St Patrick's Day parade - Dawn ZImmer.

The HQ is incapable of comprehension. Luckily for him, he sticks to the Mason-Russo script.

Of course they will but since there is no parade, the city will be woefully underprepared and understaffed.

There is no reason to think that the City will be unprepared for St. Patrick's Day or any other day the bar owners have a sales promotion to increase business.

As far as any political fall out with voters in Hoboken there is very good reason to think that doing what is in the best interest of all of Hoboken will only help the Mayor in the future. :-)

Greg, you're a tried and true Zimmer Zombie so maybe you and the mayor can scrape up a Wednesday night parade. While you're at it, get her to fund it as well. Should be a real blast! Can't wait to see how well it goes.

OOC, and you are a tried and true old Hag who loves nothing more than feeding the Russo Mattress Savings account.

Zimmer Zombi? Old hag Russo Mattress savings? So silly. It is sad to see this town become a sleepy little hamlet.

Maybe if the bloated police force and/or fire shut down bars as soon as they became too crowded and revoked licenses for 30 days, the level of responsibility would rise.

Okay Hoboken219, let's give you the benefit of the doubt. The problem is not in the bars, but in the streets and the house parties. Ok. It's already been stated that this day is hands down the most profitable one of the year for the bar owners. So what's the hangup about paying in a relatively modest amount to ensure that things are under control and to be able to continue the parade in the future? As far as the time that the bar owners have to put in, hey, no one put a gun to their head to go into that line of business. The city has an obligation to its business community, that obligation does not extend to enabling the chaos so that record profits can be made on that day.

I'm sure the city will have the police fully staffed for the day even though there is no parade. They know that the hordes who come to go nuts could care less about the actual parade. I have to believe that the police will be issuing more tickets than ever, perhaps with more than just a fine. Maybe a night in the clink. Who knows.

You make some interesting suggestions certainly worth thinking about. I think the problem in the last few years as the crowds have escalated, has not been the bars but the house parties. And even more so, the mass of people wandering the streets party to party.

I expect you will you be publicizing the Zero Tolerance, $2000. fines. DWI check points and all the other preventitive measures that will be taken again this year to control the posible impending mayhem on your Eat, Drink website while promoting the unofficial SPD bar event.

You have got to be the most stodgy single person in town. Learn to have some fun.

I would like to go on record as saying that for the short term crisis management, holding the parade on a Sunday should have at least been given a shot.

The parade committee is better than that press release and should be ashamed of that poorly drafted letter which itself seems to be written in anger with an unacceptable and uncalled for level of name-calling. It is both confrontational and accusatory, without having the good sense to offer a spirit of cooperation of any stripe, or offer any solutions other than "taking my ball and going home in a snit". It's externalization of blame, while largely true, can not really be taken very seriously as it is too busy striking a condescending tone, lobbing insults and denying there is a very real problem. The current dynamic on parade day should not be a cause for anger, but rather a rally call to solve the issues of the day.

Final score: emotion 1, problem solving and cooperation, 0.

You would have trouble getting groups to walk in the parade on a Sunday as many of the groups who walk in NYC parade also walk in Pearl River parade which holds the second largest St. Patricks Day parade in the country on Sunday.

I beg to differ. They seem to be allowed to act this way every other weekend here in Hoboken so they assume they can keep acting this way on St. Patty's. Only difference b/w this Saturday and any other Saturday is how many all show up on the same weekend. The behavior is the same. What isn't the same is the scale. In NYC, they just don't tolerate this sort of behavior year round so the people who go drinking there tend to behave better.

New York tolerates a lot. The difference is the problems are normally spread over a whole city. Take a look at SantaCon, when you have 5000+ people drinking and hanging out in the streets the Cops get very jumpy and they bring scores if not hundreds of uniforms to the area.

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I saw people sing carols on the steps of the NYC Library and 30 minutes later there were 20 motorcycle cops standing on the steps even though the carolers had already left. NYC can draw on 35K cops, Hudson country cannot.

FAP, the problem w/ being a stick in the mud is you don't get out of the house much. Perhaps if you hung out in NYC, you wouldn't say silly things. There are several areas of NYC that have a larger & denser concentration of bars than Hoboken. One of them is just on the other side of the Lincoln Tunnel and it is where I tend to go out. I have never seen any of the antics I have seen here in Hoboken over in Hell's Kitchen. If people can learn to behave there, they can learn to behave here. The cops would have to do some work though. And it might help if the city shut down bars that are constant sources of trouble b/c they can't cut their patrons off when they've had too much to drink.

Other areas w/ tons of bars include the Village, Williamsburg, the Meat Packing District, LES, oh I give up already w/ the list. Google this: Map of New York City Bars. When the page comes up w/ the search results, click on the map to get the interactive map to come up. Compare Hoboken to pretty much all of NYC south of Central Park. Please don't tell me NYC has their bars spread over a whole city b/c there are huge chunks of it that have tons of bars. Those parts of town have far more bars than Hoboken does here and they manage the drinkers just fine.

Now it is time for me to go watch the big game. I'll be hanging where the bar patrons know how to have fun w/o causing trouble "or else", that'd be NYC

Red I'm sorry I'm such a shut in. ;)

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But I like that you're changing the subject. Hoboken is not setup to deal with this crowds from the first Saturday. We know this because Hoboken has been trying to cope for the last few years and failing at it. Moving the parade is the next step.

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But thank you on educating me on where to drink in NYC. My friends will be amused.

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Oh and not that it matters but Williamsburg is much larger than Hoboken and doesn't have nearly the concentration of bars we do. Bedford comes close but move a block off of that and it's fairly limited. And there hasn't been a wild bar there since Duff's moved. Next time you close a bar and have a bite at the Kellog's diner let me know.

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Or the Odessa on the LES. Or Big Nick's on the UWS.

The parade was cancelled by the parade committee, not the mayor. But I agree with you that the machine will try to take advantage of this. I bet beth Mason is at Hudson Tavern tonight buying everyone a Guinness.

Maureen STFU. You had enough trouble with the law yourself so be quiet. You ain't helping anyone least of all me because everyone knows I was stupid enough to give your loser campaign almost six grand to come in a dead and distant last.

Now I'll have to go back to saying we should stay out of interfering in school elections.

I'm not a machine candidate, I'm everyone's best candidate.

Maureen - are you really this stupid to keep posting under this screen name? Wait, I can't believe I even asked that quesion. Of course you are that stupid.

Shame, shame indeed. Friggin' amateurs running this city.

R-G, let me take this opportunity to compliment you on your contemplative, insightful opinion and commendable, impeccable, refined taste in blog commenters.

or, perhaps it wasn't so much a "petty tone" but sheer frustration showing after sitting down with the mayor and expecting to have a discussion about any other options to Wednesday night and having the mayor refuse to entertain anything other than what she had already decided. (I personally don't know what transpired, but let's allow for the possibility that there is more than one possibility: i.e., committee bad - dawn zimmer - good)

In the last year I haven't heard the "Parade Committee" offer a single alternative other than "hey let's not change anything and pretend we did".

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In the last year has anyone ever heard of the committee putting forward a single alternative?

Gardiner...the HQ likes you. Of all of Zimmer's minions I believe you truly would liked to have saved this thing but come on man....you know she killed it.

If this thing can somehow still be saved then it may need to be done through 3rd party mediation. I would like to suggest Gardiner's name for this task if he is up for it.

The HQ is really sticking to Beth's script. She must be so proud.

Nothing says improvement like moving a 48 hour mardi gras party into a 72 hour one.

Cassandra when did the bars ever have to pay anything? For one or two years they were asked to donate, almost none did and the money raised was a pittance compared to the costs the day incurred.

There is enough blame to go around! I can only guess on what is really going on. I suspect it goes something like this,

Mayor insists on weekday parade.
Bar owners won't fund weekday parade.

Committee has no money so it cancels.

To have a weekday parade either bar owners or city must fund it. Hopefully one of them will.

My guess is we will now have two and maybe three party days in Hoboken.

First Saturday in March, the Saturday of St, Patty;s day and if funded a small party on parade date

Thank you David. :-)

Thank you Reformerus. :-)

I have little doubt that there will be a lot of partying and as long as it doesn't turn into something ugly that is good for all concerned,

As my dear old sainted Grandmother used to say " It is all fun and games untill someone gets hurt. "

I think I can help. My grandmother's were Irish, I've been to Ireland a couple of times, I was raised Catholic, growing up I was invited to join a piper band, and the answer to your question is no.

And all the Hoboken Holiday decorations were accidentally thrown out last year and never replaced. You could not even tell it was Christmas in Hoboken this year. This is from a non-practicing Catholic who would have liked to have seen Hoboken spruce it up this year. UGH..so dreary......
Now no Parade. Shitty news with plenty of people to blame.
There should have been a compromise but the new Hoboken cultural does not allow for such conversation.
I would have liked to have heard the issues that the Mayor had with continuing the Parade on Saturday, then heard from the restaurant and bar owners about their position. This way, WE, as Hoboken residents could have really seen who was to blame for this outcome.
If it was money the town needed...then ask the bar owners for a set amount of money, assistance and cooperation. Last year was a joke asking them and I believe the city raised $5,000 through their efforts. There was no cooperation due to no communication between the two groups.
The tradition should live on but be modified to appease all of the Hoboken residents.

No, except in your feeble little brain, pussface. Please stop with the multiple screen names, douche canoe.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Douche%20Canoe&defid=5319609

Liebler is quite the little liar. Watch him post on here about how people should work together on a solution, lets all talk, kumbaya, etc... Then he is over on his little site encouraging anyone and everyone to roll in from out of town to keep the debauchery going. Hopefully everyone ends up at his front door ewhen they need to puke

David L.

You are a shill for the bar business in town. Please dont try and pretend any different. In the 20 years I have lived here, the Fake Pddy's Day Parade has never been about the celebration of St Patrick's Day, it was started as a way to promote Hoboken as a place to come and hang out. 30 years ago Hbooken was heading in the same direction as Camden. Luckily, it did not. No one from the burbs came here, except to visit some old time realives on Sunday after church. And then they vamoosed as soon as they could. Somewhere along the line, the parade started to play second fiddle to the faux celebrations that began to ring up a lot of coin in the bar cash registers. Somewhere posted above is the comment that a parade mid-week would not attract beer and liquor sponsors, tacitly admitting that the parade is not the event of the day, just an excuse. I dont know anyone with young children that ventures to Washington Street to see the parade - it is a disgusting display for young children. Hoboken has changed alot in 30 years, it is not a gritty industrial port city anymore, nor is it the Delta frat house from Animal House.

But one thing is for sure, it is no longer for the place to host 40k people to come and get drunk in the streets, piss and viomit everywhere and gerenally trash the town, all so a few businesses in town can make a few bucks. There are plenty of businesses in town that close that day, as they get no sales traffic and plenty of aggravation from the drunks that stumble in asking to go to the john. I am sorry that the parade, for those that enjoyed it, has been cacnelled. As a symbol of, and as the excuse for, the debauchery that occures on Faux St Paddy's day, no regrets that it has been cancelled.

I think Wondering is right. Looks like some kind of crackdown on imaginary saints who lend their names to marketing orgies. I wonder if Saint's Row is next. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYe_qrGeuYQ Or what about Saint H and the Teen Titans. http://www.fanfiction.net/u/697508/Saint_H

Thing is I've never met anyone in Hoboken government, old or new, who showed any sign of disliking the Irish or Catholics and I think I would have noticed by now if they did.

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Though I will admit I didn't see any of them at a Pogues show last year.

Well if you know what the problem is, how come we have the exact same problem on a smaller scale just about every weekend in this town? The problem is not St. Patty's. It is the year round lax enforcement of the law. If people got $2,000 tickets for being drunk and stupid year round, they wouldn't go apeshit in this town year round.

Red, take a look at youtube. Search for Hoboken and drunk. Amazing what you will find. What you will find explains the problems without any words necessary.

The only difference b/w those videos and a random Saturday in town is the scale.

it is more than 20k, try double that. Last year the estimate was 40k in town for the festivities. The only way to handle a drunken roving crowd of that size is call in the national guard. Anything less is simply triage.

They are legally allowed to open early. Some bars open at 7 or 8 on Saturday on a regular basis already for EU football games. They have deliberately opened late that day at the city's request to cut down on the public drunkenness. That was a pretty stupid idea b/c once they started doing that, people started throwing more house parties and that is when things started going bad. Believe it or not, you want the bars open early b/c that keeps the drinking in the bars and the drunks either in line at a bar or in a bar. Then they get all liquored up, go home to sleep and things get back to normal earlier in the day.

Anyway, since the city will no longer be observing St. Patty's, no need for the bars to do anything special to accommodate the city's wishes. Why should they open late? As far as city hall is concerned, it is just another Saturday. Open when you wish, do what you wish and let the chips fall where they may!

Agreed Eric. I fully support the Mayor's effort to control what has unfortunately become a day of public debauchery and rampant property destruction. If it is the parade, as a celebration of Irish Heritage, that is important to the committee the move to a weekday should not be problematic. Hoboken's Halloween and Memorial Day parades are perfect examples of successful well attended community celebrations held on a weekday.

Memorial day is a holiday for almost everyone. A random Weds in March is not so everyone won't be off work and next to nobody will be marching or attending a parade held then. Horrible example there. And Halloween, well most people I know celebrate that the Friday or Saturday before Halloween b/c they can't hold or go to Halloween parties when they need to work the next day. And almost nobody but the ragamuffins and stay at home moms celebrate it in this town unless you happen to be one of those parents from outside of town who wants to trick or treat on Washington Street. The majority of people I know who do anything other than trick or treat or stay at home and pass out candy on Halloween go into NYC for their parade. So again, another horrible example.

The bars are not the problem. It is the perception that anything goes in Hoboken b/c no matter what a person does when they act like a moron, they won't get punished. Nobody pulls the shit they pull in this town over in NYC b/c everyone knows in NYC the cops will haul your ass off to jail and you will wake up from your drunken stupor w/ some massive lumps on your head from some cop's baton. But here anything goes year round.

May 2013. If you stay that long.

The parking rules have been the same for a long time. The signs you see talking about permit parking on either side of the street have been up for over a decade. There are new meters. If you can't figure those out as opposed to the old meters I don't know how you logged onto a computer.

Taxes are high due to the Russo and Roberts admins giving things away and plugging budgets with one shot revenue deals. Every time the mayor fights to lower taxes (right sizing the police dept, garage re-finance, selling huge liabilities like the hospital) she is met with staunch opposition from the gravy train riding freeloaders in town.

You want a better holiday tree? What if they raised your taxes to buy one? can't have it both ways.

As for spending money in town, what is stopping you? The parade committee canceled the parade. They did not issue an order that your wallet can't open on March 3rd. Feel free to hit a bar at 9 am and support local businesses. NO ONE IS STOPPING YOU

Congrats on registering to vote. Its the one smart thing you said. If you hate Zimmer and you are truly independent, wait til you get a load of the other candidates who oppose her. A lifetime crook named Russo and a power mad money spending moron named Mason

This is a great invention and a screen name I'll keep paying to keep up the good work. There's a little problem with claiming not to know about changing parking rules but Lane I mean this poster is really clever and trying to sound like John Q Public.

Blaming it on Zimmer in the end is good. Double bonus dollars for weekend work.
Now where's wifey? You promised me at least 8 new screen names this weekend.

If you were telling the truth at all, and had actually been robbed multiple times, that would be your #1 gripe. Not some parade, or parking or all the other BS you came up with. So thanks for the pathetic attempt

I thought that I smelled that douche canoe Lame, Tommy Tune, Hoboken Questioner or whoever you are pretending to be today.

From Urban Dictionary - Douche Canoe
Someone who exceeds all other douche bags and dumb fucks. They play music on yahoo chat to "punish" other chatters even though they can easily ignore them. They attempt to be smart but fail every single fucking time. They come in under multiple screen names and accidentally post the wrong thing under one screen name...then correct themselves, therefore giving both names away to the entire room. They usually have no teeth and have the mental capacity of a hamster on crack. No one likes them but in the voices tell them they are awesome.

Will you please come to the Council meeting Wednesday and tell everyone this. Some people seem to think the parade doesn't help control our faux St. Patrick's Day.

Without the parade, it's obvious their will be rampant arson, rapes and murders all over town. Only the parade stopped this from happening.

Rory - what you say makes a lot of sense to me.

How would having the parade control anything?

thanks for the correction leafy, writers make mistakes too :)

Yes, that you are a paid political operative who hates nd undermins the mayor and who is trying to support Beth Mason.

Yes there is definitely a pattern. Lane Bajardi has NEVER appeared in an ELEC report for Beth Mason or Tim Occhipinti. He appears in this midnight video for Occhipinti's campaign leaders. http://www.hobokenhorse.com/2010/10/grist-for-mill-midnight-monday-meeting.html
Is he credited in Beth Mason's IRS filings? Does he credit her in his tax forms?
http://www.fbi.gov/news/videos/inside-the-fbis-internet-tip-line

Zimmer wants to kill the Italian festival next. I have said this before ...Zimmer is like an ex wife who you just want to get rid of but who keeps picking fights with people.

Beth mason is like a child who thinks paying people to blog agasint the mayor will make her popular

"Some see..."

Yes, indeed. I'll name them: Wondering, prosbus, Hoboken Questioner, gettheleledout44, Curious Gal... have I missed anyone in the Bajardi family?

You are quite the pox. Destroying Hoboken411 and Beth Mason's political career weren't good enough for you. You know, your nastiness doesn't play well with the general public. Does Ricky Mason know you're fomenting anti-semitism with the new Bajardi 'strategy'? Since you like to quote Rabbi Scheinberg, a friend of mine, perhaps he can talk sense to that not-paid-for-friendship couple on behalf of the community. It's worth a try.

Get help, Mr. and Mrs. Bajardi.

@prosbus Columbus Day was not removed from the school calendar it was a school holiday and is listed as Columbus Day. Drop by the board office and pick up a copy of the 2011-12 calendar or visit the website where is it listed as a holiday: http://www.hoboken.k12.nj.us/index.php?q=node/4128

@prosbus The parade committee cancelled the parade, "After a long, arduous and sad meeting, the committee has decided to cancel the 2012 Hoboken St. Patrick's Parade."
http://www.hobokensaintpatricksparade.org/

The first family of LB blogging lies really could use more meds. Too bad they won't be getting them as planned on a municipal health plan in this lifetime.

Lame/Pussface, whatever name you are using, pandering to low level bigots by fanning the flames of anti-Semitism has, unfortunately, become expected from you. Sad and pathetic, but expected.

"William Brustein defines political antisemitism as hostility toward Jews based on the belief that Jews seek national and/or world power" Yisrael Gutman characterizes political antisemitism as tending to "lay responsibility on the Jews for defeats and political economic crises" while seeking to "exploit opposition and resistance to Jewish influence as elements in political party platforms."

The only pattern I see is your multiple personalities like to talk to one another.

Good point Khoboken. Has anyone noticed a PATTERN of how often prosbus-hq's targets are jewish? And then there's that other pattern...
Lane Bajardi has NEVER appeared in an ELEC report for Beth Mason or Tim Occhipinti. He appears in this midnight video for Occhipinti's campaign leaders. http://www.hobokenhorse.com/2010/10/grist-for-mill-midnight-monday-meeting.html
Is he credited in Beth Mason's IRS filings? Does he credit her in his tax forms?
http://www.fbi.gov/news/videos/inside-the-fbis-internet-tip-line

As for your mistress, Bet Mazin, who does not pay you for your friendship, encouraging your fanning the flames of anti-semitism, one can only conclude that she has unresolved personal issues.

"The term 'self-hatred' is used infrequently by psychologists and psychiatrists, who would usually describe people who hate themselves as 'persons with low self-esteem'. Some people think that self-hatred and shame are important factors in some or many mental disorders, especially disorders that involve a perceived defect of oneself."

Parading around in a nurse's uniform after she nearly killed off the hospital (and hundreds of nurse's jobs) clearly demonstrated her disassociation from reality. An epic display of mental issues.

gee whiz. If there was any doubt that Lam Bizhardi was unhinged, it is gone now. Nice job, Beth Mason. Good luck running for office with this unstable 1010 loser bozo on board.

The parade committee cancelled the parade, "After a long, arduous and sad meeting, the committee has decided to cancel the 2012 Hoboken St. Patrick's Parade."
http://www.hobokensaintpatricksparade.org/

The only pattern I see it that you are consistently a total a-hole. The notion that you are "not paid" by a converted Jew and are making Anti-Semitic innuendos is consistent with your pathological behavior.

Anti-semitism is DEFINITELY the new pattern from prosbus-hq. Add that to the pattern of hating women. Add those two to the pattern of violating election laws...
Lane Bajardi has NEVER appeared in an ELEC report for Beth Mason or Tim Occhipinti. He appears in this midnight video for Occhipinti's campaign leaders. http://www.hobokenhorse.com/2010/10/grist-for-mill-midnight-monday-meeting.html
Is he credited in Beth Mason's IRS filings? Does he credit her in his tax forms?
http://www.fbi.gov/news/videos/inside-the-fbis-internet-tip-line

Shove it, you imbecile. Of course he/she/they are fanning the flames of anti semitism. And I dont think that I have ever heard of such a moronic arguement, "what appears to be a pattern of anti catholic/christian behavior." Dont pee on my leg and tell me that it is raining. The insidious use of code words and langauge is all gauged to appeal to low level bigots. This is exactly in line with the constant references to the Mayor's husband as a "diamond dealer", which is irrelevant except to try and push a stereotype steeped in antisemitic bigotry. I hardly think that Dr King would think very highly of you invoking his name as cover for spewing anti semitic hatred. That actually is as low and vile as the orginal post made by Lame.

For you to think that your politically motivated mind game postings have any connection to the life of Dr. King is further proof of your delusional behavior.

Hold on a second. Prosbus got a sex change operation? Did Beth Mason really shell out for that for him? Is that why he hasn't been seen at City Council spewing the usual litany of lies?

Love the spin on pushing the religious/cultural intolerance ooc. That's rich. When did wanting to stop the destruction of your home become intolerant?

Okay you're just trying to be funny here right? Or is your hatred that twisted?

"she"? nice try.

congrats, probus. you've gone from being a disingenuous moron to a moronic bigot. kudos.

Let me say this as a Jewish person and one who has lived in Hoboken for almost three decades. You are a hate-monger, one who completely lost all perspective on human decency in your never-ending quest for political advancement. Spin it any way you like, anyone with an ounce of intelligence can see what you are trying to do. It might be in your best interests to develop a little racial and ethnic tolerance. You're going to need it for where you're headed.

You lying anti-Semitic SOB. The BoE had no part of rescheduling the Santa photo session from Tuesday to Thursday. YOU IDIOT. You KNOW that.

The BoE does NOT administrate- the Superintendent DOES. The event was rescheduled and ALL the kids had a terrific time. What a miserable little schmuck you are. I can't wait to send the judge a dossier of your hate speech so when you're sentenced he throws the book at you. You need to be isolated from society. You are a POX.

The troll is on the clock and needs to justify his paycheck

The school board does not administer the schools. Here is Superintendent Toback's letter to Hoboken Mom's concerning Santa at Calabro (two parts):
Part 1:

Dear Hoboken Moms,

Despite some beliefs to the contrary, the Santa photo shoot postponement was not as simple as school administrators unceremoniously telling Santa to leave Calabro School. Many people have since recognized that the Santa photo shoot is a surprisingly complex situation with legal, educational, religious, and cultural ramifications. This matter required additional review and attention by the school district. The proper and necessary attention that was required was the reason for postponing Santa’s visit to Calabaro School.

It is well known that the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment prohibits a government entity, including a public school district, from promoting or affiliating itself with any religious doctrine or organization. The courts have since determined that governmental bodies may celebrate religious holidays in a secular manner. This includes decorating public places with wreaths and other holiday symbols. The courts have also found that the presence of Santa does not necessarily promote Christian doctrine.

cont'd Superintendent Toback's letter to Hoboken Mom's concerning Santa at Calabro Part 2:
So far, it sounds like there should be no problem with the Santa photo shoot. There is more to consider. While a picture with Santa may not violate the Constitution, under the format that existed (Christmas photo only), the photo shoot did not promote multi-cultural diversity, which is also considered important in the courts and must be an important consideration in public schools. In addition, an argument could easily be made that the school district is favoring one religion or cultural tradition over another if there is only a Christmas photograph opportunity. The fact that the photos were scheduled during the school day and during class time further complicated matters.

After careful consideration of the students, concerns expressed by all parties, the school tradition, legal advice, and a variety of other factors, some changes were made with the format of the Santa photo shoot to allow for greater diversity and recognition of other religious and/or cultural holiday traditions. I am hopeful that the community will see that the administrative action to postpone the event and reformat was not for the purpose of moving Santa out, but rather, to bring other cultural and religious customs into the school.

cont'd Superintendent Toback's letter to Hoboken Mom's concerning Santa at Calabro Part 3:

As I approach my first year of service to the community, I am appreciative of the thoughtful discourse that takes place in Hoboken regarding all civic affairs. I encourage all concerned citizens to put this issue in the past and to move ahead and into the wonderful holiday season.
Happy Holidays!
Mark Toback

So you had my post deleted, you vile little troll. Keep it up. Every time that you spew your venomous hatred and anti semitism, I will be there to confront you for the boil on humanity that you are.

c'mon eric, you're being far too logical, reasonable and objective in your thinking. they don't want to hear that.

He seems to be gleefully thinking that he has pushed our buttons toaday. What a disgusting dingleberry he is. And Beth allows, indeed underwrites, this crap being thrown about town.

what's that got to do with anything? really, what?

What exactly is the point with the reference? That all Irish are drunken slobs that piss and puke in public on the first day of March in Hoboken? What an effing moron you are. I am familair with that article from Wikipedia, and if you read the entire post, it bears absolutely no relationship to the anti-Semitism that you and Pussface are hiding behind here today. Here is the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Irish_sentiment

Fakepaddysdayophobia - Anti-Ass-clown sentiment, may refer to or include persecution, discrimination, hatred or fear of the Ass-clowns who come to Hoboken on NJ Transit for Fake Paddy's Day. Said Ass-clowns posses the following characteristics: they drink to excess, piss and vomit in the streets, start fights, fall down, destroy private property, punch cops and assault females and generally ruin the day for everyone else.

clarification: i don't have any problem with someone who takes a differing view from mine, but i certain am going to call out a disingenuous bigot.

NO BETTER TIME to talk about intolerance than MLK Day in my opinion---

Talk about intoalerance - you are the effing poster child of anti semitism. Will you get off the fact that the mayor is Jewish? You have four Jewish friends that dont pay you for frienship? Are they all named Mason? That clan is the most self loathing group to ever attend temple. Why do you always refer to Stan as a diamond dealer, epecially with that nasty link to Blood Diamonds? That reference is nothing but an effort to stir up an ugly Jewish stereotype and there is nothing you can say to negate your intent. What is the point of trying to stir up hatred and venom by such a vile sylloguism, i.e you spin facts to claim that "anti-Christian efforts" are taking away "Chrisitan" rites or celebrations and it must be caused by the non Chritstian mayor. The fact that you have been filled with blind rage and hatred towards the mayor for years is not an excuse for you to use anti semitic code words and references.

Well Nancy is Jewish and she doesn't think her comments are Anti-Semetic, so using your logic, it's OK isn't it?

Khoboken- I was simply talking about Mayor Zimmer's apparent lack of cultural and religious awareness. I didn't even know she was Jewish until you mentioned it in this thread. Frankly, I don't see what her being Jewish (if in fact she is, I don't know) has to do with being culturally or religiously insensitive. Unfortunately, intolerance spans all cultures, religions, and faiths. But, I believe elected politicians should be especially aware since they are in such powerful positions of authority and able to set policy. Is that somewhat clearer for you?

Go right ahead, prosbus/Lane Bajardi.

But, instead I'd suggest you use the letter I wrote to US Senators Ben Carlin and Ron Wydin, Senate Sponsors of the National Jewish Democratic Council which requested an apology for the smear perpetrated on me by Beth Mason, Larry Stempler, Lane Bajardi (that's you) and Hoboken411.

Here's the letter. I think I'll republish on GA.

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prosbus, you may download that letter and use it.

Folks, please do have a look, read it--- it's all there.

To the anti-Semitic POX on Hoboken, I look forward to chatting with Mr. Mevorach

probus, i'd laugh if you weren't so bought-and-paid for (which, in fact, actually makes it kind of sad). you're repeated disingenuous rantings and bigotry are clear to all, and i couldn't care less if you're quiet or not. let me clue you in on a little something: you aren't persuading anyone of anything, only repelling open-minded people who come away feeling a little bit dirty whenever they read your posts. but have at it to your heart's content, if it makes you feel good.

Post this on your website Nancy: NJDC — November 17, 2010 "The National Jewish Democratic Council condemns the actions of Hoboken, NJ Zoning Board Member Nancy Pincus (D-NJ) for her graphic that compares Hoboken City Councilmember Beth Mason (D-NJ) to the Nazis.
Sadly, this is another example of an office holder invoking the Holocaust to attack their political opponent. While the vast majority of such examples have stemmed from today’s conservative movement and from Republican candidates, elected officials and activists, it is always wrong to engage in such rhetoric. As we have said repeatedly, comparing elected officials to the Nazis, whether perpetrated by a Republican or a Democrat, elected official or activist, is never acceptable."

http://www.njdc.org/blog/post/njdccondemnspincus111710

rtux- I'll take my chances any day of the week with the truly open minded people who read my posts. I'll stand on my words-- you and your bully crew can stand on yours.

Keep in mind, the entire St. Patrick's Parade Committee stands with me on the basic feeling that Mayor Zimmer is culturally and religiously intolerant.

Posting links are we? I've got a good one: http://www.hudsonreporter.com/view/full_story/7140972/article--Police-arrest-made-in-alleged-incident-at-Board-of-Education-forum-

HOBOKEN -- Hoboken police have made an arrest on a warrant issued for Lane Bajardi, a local politically involved Hoboken resident. The arrest came after he was accused of having allegedly assaulted a local blogger at a Board of Education forum a week ago.

Bajardi was charged with robbery because the victim allegedly had his camera taken by Bajardi. However, the police noted that the arrest was based largely on the alleged victim's testimony, and that it will be heard in court. It also may be downgraded to a disorderly persons offense, police said.

The police put out a press release saying:

The complainant is a 46-year-old Hoboken resident who alleged that on April 12, 2010 while attending a Hoboken Board of Education candidate’s forum at Stevens College, Mr. Bajardi, [allegedly] knocked him to the ground, assaulted him, and took his digital camera. The victim further stated he had to follow Mr. Bajardi to obtain his camera back before Mr. Bajardi [allegedly] destroyed it. Based on the statement provided, Mr. Bajardi was charged with robbery.

Well, others may question my taste but I've never assaulted anyone nor been arrested. You are a proven threat to society.

Pussface -"I didn't know the Mayor was Jewish" - stop lying. Wait, that is a character flaw of yours, the inability to tell the truth. If that is all ythat you can offer as a defense to your blatant anti semitic references, then you are actually a lot less intelligent than anyone has ever given your credit for.

Puussface
Disordered people can't deal with the reality of their behaviors. On some level they realize how hurtful they are, yet accepting this major flaw in themselves is just too painful. So disordered abusers spin our reality to make theirs less painful. One of the most common defense mechanism they use is projection. In projection, a characteristic of themselves that they find just too painful to accept is projected onto us. And the most frequently projected characteristic is mental illness. "I'm not a sociopath. You're the crazy one." Another common and difficult defense mechanism is blame shifting. It's your fault this happened because blah, blah blah blah...

After a while it becomes hard to distinguish what is real from what is being projected and what is being distorted. We begin to doubt our reality and question whether we're the crazy ones, or whether our disordered SO's (significant others) are really right about what they say.

The truth is, THEY'RE NOT RIGHT. But they feel better when they can get us to carry the burden of their illness and their behavior.

http://dalkeithpress.com/info/sociopath.aspx?utm_content=Livwth-notcrazy-LrnDis-stopAb&gclid=CPD8nIHN1a0CFQPf4AoduB3Bng

Word is prosbus/Bachardi is getting a little something on the side from the parade committee as well as Mason

So the parade committee is a bunch of bigots. Thanks for reminfind everyone.

Did I hit a nerve Nancy? Sorry--- disorderly behavior vs a condemnation by the National Jewish Democratic Council. Evidently, Zoning Board member Nancy Pincus feels these are similar issues.

I'll leave it to the open minded people to decide....

Hit a nerve? No, why Lane dear, of course not. But I'm sure you meant to say "arrest" instead of "disorderly conduct"? I do recall word on the street that the police were looking for you, went to your home and everything. But you weren't there.

I suppose you were on the run. I'll leave that to the open minded people to decide...

BTW, I've been looking and looking for your name on a Mason ELEC report. In addition to being arrested for robbery, please don't tell me you're guilty of tax evasion? Did you pay taxes on that revenue stream? I'll leave it to the open minded people to decide...

TAX CHEAT TIP LINE: http://www.fbi.gov/news/videos/inside-the-fbis-internet-tip-line

So what part of Hoboken do you own a home in Harry or can you at least tell us when your next movie is coming out?

I'm a big fan!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070355/

But it isn't "criticism of the mayor." You're just a pathological liar. You said Columbus day was removed from the school calendar. YOU LIE. You said the BOE removed Santa. YOU LIE. You said this all has something to do with intolerance. YOU LIE. LIE, LIE, LIE. That's what you're good for. That and breaking election laws and cheating the taxpayer. Because as it turns out...
Lane Bajardi has NEVER appeared in an ELEC report for Beth Mason or Tim Occhipinti. He appears in this midnight video for Occhipinti's campaign leaders. http://www.hobokenhorse.com/2010/10/grist-for-mill-midnight-monday-meeting.html
Is he credited in Beth Mason's IRS filings? Does he credit her in his tax forms?
http://www.fbi.gov/news/videos/inside-the-fbis-internet-tip-line

prosbus, if so many many people are upset with the mayor, why do you need to pretend to be four of them supporting each other. Fact is, you are not upset with the mayor, you are trying to create an enviornment that Beth Mason becomes mayor by discrediting the current one. Then we'ed really have something to complain about beside your manufactured attacks.

What about all the people who would like the parade but don't want all the nonsense? Being against that isn't being culturally ignorant. People just want a little respect, and no one involved in planning this thing has any plan to change it, except the Mayor. You refuse to offer solutions or ideas. You guys should run for congress, you'd fit right in.

I reiterate Lane Bajardi (prusbus, hq, etc...) is a pathological liar.
You are not making a "critique of the mayor." YOU'RE JUST LYING.
You said Columbus day was removed from the school calendar. YOU LIE.
You said the BOE removed Santa. YOU LIE.
You said the mayor cancelled the parade. YOU LIE.
You said this all has something to do with intolerance. YOU LIE.
That's all you do is LIE.
That and breaking election laws and cheating the taxpayer. Because as it turns out...
Lane Bajardi has NEVER appeared in an ELEC report for Beth Mason or Tim Occhipinti. He appears in this midnight video for Occhipinti's campaign leaders. http://www.hobokenhorse.com/2010/10/grist-for-mill-midnight-monday-meeting.html
Is he credited in Beth Mason's IRS filings? Does he credit her in his tax forms?
http://www.fbi.gov/news/videos/inside-the-fbis-internet-tip-line

Hit a nerve? I certainly did. Folks, read about Lane Bajardi, 1010WINS anchor and anti-Semitic hate-monger

http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/01/hate-on-mlk-day.html

Perhaps a 1010WINS advertising boycott is in order.

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ThisMeansWar- the BOE indeed removed Santa. I know you are trying to use a technical definition that the Board does not make policy decisions but we all know Kids First has been making policy decisions at the BOE for the past 2 or 3 years. They told Toback not to give Ohaus or Hillenbrand tenure and he went along with the program. The day the children in Calabro were suppose to meet Santa and take pictures with him was cancelled because of some ridiculous protest that Santa was a religious figure.
And let's not spin this--- EVERYONE knows the mayor, by refusing to compromise or work with the parade committee, in fact cancelled the parade. And then had the nerve to say it was because of safety? The reason is she didn't want another NY Times article out there....

Here's what we all know curiouskim. You are LYING. The removal of Santa (for 2 days until he returned on Thursday) is NOT the BOE's call. The superintendent makes that decision. You are referring to the TRUTH of the matter as a technicality. Typical. What we also KNOW is that you are BEING PAID to smear the BOE on behalf of this spring's anti-KF ticket. I hope that, unlike your husband, you avoid the usual lawbreaking and get paid on an ELEC report because someone needs to be home to raise the child.
Lane Bajardi has NEVER appeared in an ELEC report for Beth Mason or Tim Occhipinti. He appears in this midnight video for Occhipinti's campaign leaders. http://www.hobokenhorse.com/2010/10/grist-for-mill-midnight-monday-meeting.html
Is he credited in Beth Mason's IRS filings? Does he credit her in his tax forms?
http://www.fbi.gov/news/videos/inside-the-fbis-internet-tip-line

ThisMeansWar- What is so bad about a video about a meeting? Would you like to get rid of the Constitutional Amendment for the right to assemble? Are you equally upset when the Zimmer supported and financed Kids First Board of Ed members meet after the BOE meeting at the 3 A's bar and there's enough people to have a quorum-- but its not announced? Any planning going on? ;-) Now, we are talking about something that is not appropriate. Want to talk about that???

Propuss - what is so bad is why Mason is doing it in the first place. Clearly she is just looking for another way to politically attack the mayor. Frankly I find Mason's behavior to be disgusting and I wish she would stop screwing around and playing games. And I sincerely hope law enforcement relieves us of her offensive presence forthwith. She is a cancer on this town.

Looks like prosbus is now trying to change the topic off the flagrant allegations of prejudice he so sleazily conjured up. He speaking in code now: "culturally and religiously intolerant"- but we know what he's saying. The dialog has hit an all time low. He's probably off looking for a kitchen sink to throw into the discussion.

Video of a meeting is legal. Doing vast amounts of campaign support as well as support for the 24/7/365 campaign of Beth Mason is also legal. But the minute any money changes hands, it all comes crashing down if it doesn't show up on an ELEC report. And it never has.
Lane Bajardi has NEVER appeared in an ELEC report for Beth Mason or Tim Occhipinti. He appears in this midnight video for Occhipinti's campaign leaders. http://www.hobokenhorse.com/2010/10/grist-for-mill-midnight-monday-meeting.html
Is he credited in Beth Mason's IRS filings? Does he credit her in his tax forms?
http://www.fbi.gov/news/videos/inside-the-fbis-internet-tip-line

Spinning is a distant second place to telling the mere truth about the ugly actions by your benefactor Beth Mason. How much money has she paid out to your husband and your family? Include any shell companies she operates whether listed in Lynhurst, NJ the office of one of her paid political consultants or another.

Redrider doesn't need to spin anything. He's just sharing his views on different topics but the one he hold on Beth Mason hardly is spin. Her attempt to close the hospital speaks for itself.

The Bajardaye clan can claim they represent some growing voice but where is it? All we see here is them and another political operative or so with their endless screen names piled ever higher.

Doesn't work here as well as on Hoboken411 where you censor opposing views does it? No bigger hypocrites than you than of course your leader who does not pay your family for friendship.

Go eat another donut, your're done.

Thanks, Curious Gal! Gee, you're swell. I would be delighted to entertain you. Please call me at (973) 792-3000

The guy who picks up the phone will book a time- or book your husband. Just ask for my friend Mike. That's Michael Ward, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI’s Newark Division.

Mike's a great guy. Loves to share information with the I.R.S., especially when it comes to corrupt political operatives who hide their income. And he also wants to know about email... who might have acquired copies from the Ricciardi archive... funny how Hoboken411 got all of that insider confidential City Hall information. Didn't hubby write some of those 'exclusives'? Did you see those emails, too?

I'd hate to see hubby arrested- again. tsk tsk tsk.

No spin needed. Only someone looking to dredge up some sound bytes for future TV ads would bother to send a cameraman to a deposition or any other of the dozens of other events Mason has paid someone to go take footage of. She is a piece of trash w/ a fat checkbook.

Yes, Red, Hard to believe, she hires a guy to film the deposition and lets the Hoboken reporter watch it, then the entire vide appears, watermarked, on Hoboken411 with a companion piece written by prosbus himself.

The F.B.I. must be watching all... this is exactly how smuggled information was published as 'exclusive'.

http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/01/up-to-her-old-tricks.html

The link was deleted on nj.com, which suggests 'they' didn't want this information out there.

What the hell is Lame's wife's occupation? She seems almost as dense and as uneducated as her traffic reporting hubby.

Red, not sure if she still is a CNN producer. But I am guessing between those 2 online 24/7 their kid is raising himself.

Well at least she isn't poisoning the minds of the American public w/ her nastiness b/c nobody watches CNN.

I've heard she's smarter than him. And more cold-blooded, if possible.

I don't think you and your wife need our help to ruin your lives. You got yourself fired just like you tanked Mason's chance at ever being mayor. You are not a smart man.

I'm guessing wolves would do a better job. Poor kid got hyenas instead.

The videotape of a lone employee's termination with the mayor giving a deposition is worthy of further analysis. Such as who filmed it, who paid for its filming and why?

How did it get to the Hudson Reporter and Hoboken411? Is there a pattern here of similar information such as the tens of thousands of emails hijacked out of City Hall?

There's certainly a pattern here worth looking into considering the FBI investigation is doing exactly that in Hoboken and ongoing.

Bingo, HA.

The spying on the mayor via email had multiple 'benefits'. For her bitter circle of opponents funded by her wealthy bitter rival (Number 41), it was a hunt for something they perceived as damaging. Pilfered emails with such 'exclusives' as the City's confidential settlement terms with the SWAT members was POSTED on Hoboken411.

So, pray tell HOW did that information get there? Same players sneaking videos to the local media and POSTING this 'exclusive' on Hoboken411. A very familiar pattern, and right under the nose of the F.B.I.

Yes, Boys and Girls of Newark, they're not afraid of you. The information smuggling goes on as usual.

Not-Stempler should get a laugh over this.

Lame really is stupid. W/ the FBI snooping about looking under rocks for snakes and actively investigating so many of his friends, you would think a snake like him would slither away and hide for a bit. Instead he just keeps up w/ his poisonous antics which draws more attention to himself and his friends. Not smart, not smart at all. The FBI likes stupid people b/c stupid people are easier to catch.

"Following a conversation with Etzion Neuer, regional director for the New Jersey Anti-Defamation League, Pincus said later that she realized how her graphic may have caused offense and agreed to issue a letter of apology at Neuer's request."

Read more: http://www.nj.com/hobokennow/index.ssf/2010/11/hoboken_blogger_apologizes_for.html

And yet Hoboken Mayoral appointment and Zoning Board member Nancy Pincus insists on being the judge and jury on issues relating to anti-semitism while choosing to honor MLK on her blog with a picture of Klu Klux Klan members in Nazi salute-- Is there ANY less credible person in the city on this issue???

http://hoboken.patch.com/articles/st-patrick-s-day-parade-canceled

prosbus needs to get more sleep. What a raving troll

I guess the claims that Mayor Zimmer is culturally and religiously intolerant are starting to hit home. Good. But, I agree with Outofcontrol, Zimmer has messed with the wrong people at the wrong time. Look for Helen Cunning to come out blazing against Mayor Zimmer on this and I wouldn't be surprised if we see Angelo Valente get involved too. There are MANY Italian-Irish and German-Irish families in this city so don't think only people with typical Irish surnames are upset by this. Zimmer has opened up a can of worms on this and any "heritage" events are going to be seen as the patronizing pandering back-peddling events that they are.

Here's an example of other cultural heritage celebrations in Hoboken:
http://hoboken.patch.com/articles/hoboken-celebrates-puerto-rican-pride

@Probus: There are many Irish, Italian-Irish and German-Irish families (and any other combination you can imagine including non-Irish families) in this city that support the Mayor's efforts. Celebrating Irish heritage or any cultural heritage does not need to include a drink-athon that commences at dawn. The parade committee cancelled the parade and by doing so opened the door open to new possibilities for establishing a celebration of Irish cultural heritage in Hoboken.

Everyone is aware the Old Guard cancelled the parade for political gain. Funny how they pretended it would be in the dark when clearly it wouldn't be. Hilarious

No, the silence can be taken for watching the Mayor try to get out of the political shit storm she has created.
Everyone is against mayhem-- and everyone knows there is never mayhem during the parade.
This whole incident could have been avoided with thoughtful planning and a willingness to work with the parade committee. Unfortunately, Mayor Zimmer thought she was dealing with the council minority and was characteristically not communicative nor willing to compromise.

Hobbs - you and your team of Zimmer Cronies would sound much better if you just came out and told the public what we already know - Zimmer killed the parade. Period. The rest of these blog entries just look like damage control.

And politically Zimmer may be fine for killing the parade. Apparently there are a lot of people in our community who hated the parade - sad but true.

But just cut it out with all the double talk and deflecting blame and talking about other politicians. There is exactly 1 person who is to blame for killing the parade and that is Dawn Zimmer. She would look much better right now if she just came out and said that she killed it and that its time to move on.

Word is spreading like wildfire that the parade committee purposely killed the parade to make the Mayor look bad. Speculation Mason was a key player in it. Blaming it on the mayor is ridiculous asnd goes counter to the facts.

Questioner would be best served if he came right out and clarified his obvious political relationship with Mason.

It's incorrect to say Bet has been silent. She has issued zero press releases on this and can't seem to have her army of paid political consultants in multiple companies can't get one press release out. Zero.

She was reported to have made this inane comment:
Councilwoman Beth Mason said she's "disappointed that community can't seem to have cultural, diverse events that benefit the community overall and be able to have the proper law enforcement to make sure people are safe during events."

So the Bajardaye clan should not speak for Beth Mason when she has plenty of resources available but in this case says something so mealy mouthed it's completely worthless much as her sitting on the City Council where she does nothing.

If the Bajardaye's are so sure the mayor is responsible for "killing the parade" why don't they have write up a release and have Beth send it out saying she will bring the parade back to the first Saturday in March for Hoboken?

We're still waiting.

CuriousGal/HobokenQ: It is the parade committee killed the parade. The committee canceled the parade not Mayor Zimmer. Where was the willingness of the parade committee to consider any change? In fact they stated in their letter that any suggestion of a change of day was an insult and evidence of religious and ethnic intolerance. Is that a position of compromise or willingness to negotiate? The parade committee killed the parade by canceling it and walked away. When the committee canceled the parade they opened the door for the possibility of a new celebration of Hoboken's Irish heritage.

Try explaining to reasonable people that the Hoboken St. Patrick's Day Parade Committee killed the parade. Let us know how that works out for you.

Reasonable people can read the parade committee's letter where they state that they are canceling the parade. I assume that's why the parade committee took out the full page ad in the Hoboken Reporter this week so everyone would know it was the parade committee's decision to cancel the parade. Reasonable people are tired of the mayhem that happens before, during and after the parade. Reasonable people will wonder why the parade committee preferred to kill the parade rather than consider a change to a day that does not involve a drink-athon that begins at dawn.

Jeez, don't you 2 skunks ever sleep? Is spewing venom online a substitute for.. um.. other 'activities'?

And you're so SINCERE about it, too... like anyone actually listens to you 2 losers.

Why don't you hack into someone's email account... or read 'borrowed' email like you did to Zimmer's?

The blogosphere is laughing at Mason's latest dopey stunt: hiring a videographer to tape Dawn's deposition, then showing it to the Hoboken Reporter, then letting that cretin at Hoboken411 post it- watermarked with his logo. That's like someone branding himself with the name of a venereal disease.

Have any of your stunts ever worked? None that i can think of. They've all backfired. Because of you 2 misanthropes Mason couldn't get elected dogcatcher and H411 traffic is in the toilet. Alexa.com kicked him off because of his low ranking and he hides his stats on that other one he uses. Because you 2 losers drove a once-great site into a ditch then lit it on fire.

Mr and Mrs Melanoma...the 2 most untalented political ops ever in the history of mankind. Take a bow!

http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/01/up-to-her-old-tricks.html

"Mr and Mrs Melanoma"???-- you are a sick individual. Seriously, you need help.

Curiousgal, do they let you in Mason's house or does she meet you at the door with the envelope

hey prosbus, maybe Bet Ma-sin can get yo health care so you can talk to someone about denial that the parade committee cancelled the parade.

No they sabotage Hoboken at every opportunity for political gain. Trying to shut the hospital was their biggest gambit and it blew up in their face.

Hospital saved, Old Guard despised and Beth Mason roundly booed in a City Council meeting by the public fed up with it all.

Bwaa- Haw Haw!!!! The "he" is YOU, Mr. Melanoma. Your NJDC stunt was a total BOMB. It got no traction, and Mason RAN from it... maybe because of the letter I sent to the entire 38 NJDC Board of Directors and the 2 Senate sponsors... Mason was humiliated. I know that for a fact. She ran from that strategy cause it backfired big time. Like everything else you touch, turns to dreck. You may keep posting your Nazi links, only you care. I actually think posting those links turns you on, actually stimulates you sexually, like a substitute for... um... 'activities' that your life is lacking. tsk tsk.

So was the videographer at Zimmer's deposition your brilliant idea? What a jealous loser Mason is. The entire Hoboken blogosphere's laughing at her- and you, and Mrs. Melanoma.

Read all about it on GA, everyone!

Mason's so bitterly jealous and miserable, she sent a videographer to tape Zimmer's deposition then let Ray Smith of the Hoboken Reporter watch it! Then she gave it to Perry the Pornographer to watermark with his venereal logo! You 3 are so stupid, you didn't think anyone would figure that out?

http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/01/up-to-her-old-tricks.htmlhttp:

Tirads and self-grandizing? Wen I make up werds everione laghts. Just because I didnt go to a big fansy community college like you. O well its nice not to be the biggest drunk on patch anymore. See you under the brigde lane. No coors go yanks.

Grafix Avenger (Nancy Pincus)- your tirades and self aggrandizing aside ---the facts indicate very clearly you were requested and complied in writing an apology letter to the regional director for the New Jersey Anti-Defamation League. (thanks wiskeytango)

Yeah, so what? And there's shame in that? To the contrary, it takes humility, a word you need to find in your pop-up picture dictionary.

Since you are a crazed nitwit, I welcome folks to read the letter prosbus refers to like the porno magazine he's got hidden under the mattress:

http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2010/11/gas-letter-to-etzion-neuer.html

Now, back to you... what a stupid idea, sending a videographer to Zimmer's deposition then peddling it to the local media... and, interesting that some of the lawyer's line of questioning sounds very familiar....

So what's the relationship between Campbell's lawyer Catherine Elston and Beth Mason? GA will find out.

Did the lawyer invite Mason to bring her videographer, or did Mason ask for permission first? How much does that kind of service cost? Fascinating how much focus seemed to be on the mayors 2 aides that had their emails pilfered and that Beth Mason sponsored a Resolution many believe was in order to lend cover for her reading the illegally-obtained email. Did she ever get them from the FBI? The FBI said she could have copies, but they'd be WATERMARKED.

Know what that means? Think hard.

Nancy Pincus wants thanks and hand shakes for having to write a letter of apology for her Nazi/Holocaust depictions of an elected council person. Sorry Nancy--- I'll hold my thanks and appreciation and instead join the chorus who would like to see you removed from your appointed position on the Zoning Board. Personally, I would LOVE to see you run for an elected position----

HobokenOwl- There is no lying going on--- just the documented truth about this appointed person to the Hoboken Zoning Board---
http://www.nj.com/hobokennow/index.ssf/2010/11/hoboken_blogger_apologizes_for.html

"Nancy Pincus wants thanks and hand shakes for having to write a letter of apology for her Nazi/Holocaust depictions of an elected council person. "

Someone is upset that Nancy is calling attention to the fact that curiouslyobtusegal's boss is sending out videographers to depositions, potentially suggesting questions that should be asked during the deposition and making a general nuisance of herself again. Keep up the good work Nancy!

Curious Gal, let's see if you have the guts to answer a direct question.

Do you deny that 'prosubs' is Lane Bajardi?

Thanks, Red. There IS something there, and the escalation from the Melanomas proves it.

http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/01/connecting-dots.html

A "chorus" in Hoboken wants to know these answers...

Has Mason ever communicated with the plaintiff's attorney, Catherine Elston, on this case? (either directly or through a 3rd party)

Has Mason ever offered her any information- even emails- for use by the plaintiff's attorney AGAINST THE CITY?

Has there been ANY coordination of ANY kind between Mason and Elston, either directly or through intermediaries?

And if the City's Attorney objected to the presence of Mason's camera, why didn't the plaintiff's attorney? (Boy, GA is a Curious Gal about that one!)

Finally, can you deny that prosbus IS Lane Bajardi?

Agreed, rtrux. There really is no more to say to the douche canoe occupants, Lame and the shrew shrew of their lair, CG. They are stuck with the exposure of Lame as an anti semitic fool, just like Bet is stuck with GA exposing her resume as a pack of lies. Lame, should just STFU and worry that his rantings here will not lead to his firing from the only job that does not pay for his friendship, his soothing cooing and billowing of the time and and weather at 1010WINS. The fitting for his orange jumpsuit is just around the corner and he should be banking as much cheddar as he can to tide the shrew over while he is away on federal vacay.

NIce staff there Beth. maybe a little on the irrational side though We knew we could count on you to help support those who can not help themselves. by theway not the most ingenious plan for taking down Zimmer

None of them want to admit they are on Mason's payroll.

Kibnd of late for that worry - seems to me, the City attorneys woudl be perfectly within their rights to start nosing around into who what when where and why of the videographer's appearance. I have always understood that only certified court reporters representing a party in interest to the case could videotape any proceeding as there is concern that the tape would, in the wrong hands, be compromised or edited, which is a big no no. Edit a tape? Beth? Lame? Perryish the thought!

I had a quick chat with my legal department, the highly-paid and worth-every-penny, Not-Stempler. He was very surprised by the judge's ruling. I'm hoping he has time to write me a little something.

Please do have a look- I share your concerns and raise you one: this could be coordination on behalf of an elected official (Mason) to assist the plaintiff who is SUING THE CITY. At a minimum, she has taken court video with her own funds and turned it over to a partisan anti-Administration web site, Hoboken411. Further, the video was manipulated- Klaussen watermarked it with his logo. Which leads one to wonder how else the tape may have been modified. I suspect one portion a source told me about was EDITED from Klaussen's tape, but will hold off on that until the court transcript is issued.

http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/01/connecting-dots.html

You have to wonder, who is paying Ms. Elston?