Contractor Sentenced For Stealing $1 Million From Hoboken Meters
Toms River man receives five years in theft case.
HOBOKEN, N.J.—Brian Petaccio, a Toms River contractor who admitted to stealing more than $1 million in coins from Hoboken parking meters between 2005 and 2008, was sentenced Friday to five years in state prison, Attorney General Jeffrey Chiesa said.
Petaccio, 52 and the owner of United Textile Fabricators LLC, pleaded guilty in 2009 to second-degree theft by unlawful taking, for stealing approximately $1,175,000 in coins.
On April 2, former Hoboken Parking Director John Corea was sentenced to seven years in state prison after he pleaded guilty to second-degree official misconduct, admitting that he became aware that Petaccio and United Textile had stolen a large amount of the city’s parking revenues, according to the attorney general's office.
Corea also admitted he steered three separate contracts to United Textile, to collect and count coins from Hoboken's parking meters.
After an audit in 2007 uncovered parking revenue shortfalls, Petaccio and his company returned approximately $575,000 to the city. In his guilty plea, however, Petaccio confessed that he took an additional $600,000 that was not reported to the city.
Corea and Petaccio both have to pay $300,000 in restitution to the city, for the $600,000 in revenue that was stolen.
Hoboken Answer
2:59 pm on Friday, April 27, 2012
Good news to hear John Corea is getting similar length of sentence company. Have heard the NJ Attorney General's Office is still interested in this case which is great news for Hoboken.
Law enforcement at state and federal levels are doing great work for Hoboken. Godspeed to them.
hobokenhorse.com
4:42 pm on Friday, April 27, 2012
More from the NJ Attorney General Jeff Chiesa's Office:
http://hobokenhorse.com
"It's been cleared up!"
rtrux
3:07 pm on Friday, April 27, 2012
i'll bet this story doesn't get many us-versus-them comments, nope. ;)
Hobbs
12:13 pm on Saturday, April 28, 2012
Even they are not silly enough to try to spin this.
The close ties to Hoboken's OLD GUARD politicos to John Correa are very well known.
They want this to just go away as fast as possible.
Journey
3:12 pm on Friday, April 27, 2012
My the diligent hand of justice catch them all, I'll take through over fast any day.
Hoboken1653
3:23 pm on Friday, April 27, 2012
Well the Parking authority has obviously been a place for people to loot. Corea stole millions, the Hudson Reporter had an article and quotes from the FBI that Michele Russo had a scam of kickbacks for 5 dollars a tow. Thank God for Ian Sacs changing it around so that these types of things stop happening
Hobbs
4:06 pm on Friday, April 27, 2012
Well I guess that's all cleared up then ..... :-)
Redrider765
6:29 pm on Friday, April 27, 2012
Not quite. I still want to know why a couple of CC members claimed it was all cleared up before any investigation was done, before any arrests were made and before we really found out where those quarters went. Who knew what when!
p1ywood
9:32 pm on Friday, April 27, 2012
Yes. After they initially spiritedly backed an investigation into the missing million dollars, for some reason their interest in the missing million went from 60 mph to zero in under 10 seconds. What changed? Hint: probably NOT their sincere belief in some quasi-informational internal audit which was later exposed as being completely fake. Why? Well because if you believe that, I might as well break the news to you now that there is a school of thought that the tooth fairy is a cute little feel-good fabrication too, s/he just involves less quarters changing hands behind closed doors.
Journey
8:23 am on Saturday, April 28, 2012
While I would believe they are that dishonest, that seems way to reckless and I'm sure they would have done the process behind closed doors.
Dan Crabtree
1:11 pm on Saturday, April 28, 2012
not bad money for three years time..he should do maybe 24 months of this sentence in this state then it is out spending money..and who says crime does not pay..
BassGreat
1:23 pm on Saturday, April 28, 2012
Good to see that not much has changed. Corporate embezzling and the stealing of millions gets you less time in jail then stealling a candy bar from an inner city convenience store.
hobokenhorse.com
2:20 pm on Saturday, April 28, 2012
Notice how quiet this thread is and ask yourself what's missing. None of the three people (in any of their guises) showing up to argue against everyone who says the sky is blue.
Here's why. The missing million was easy to discover in a routine review of the financial documents presented monthly. But running away from the discovery likely had a lot more to do with a certain Philly outfit that had two members associated with this southern NJ arcade company.
If Nicky Scarfo's crew told you to shut up, what would you do?
In this case Hoboken got:
Terry Castellano: "It's been cleared up. It's been cleared up. Uh huh, it's been cleared up."
Michael Russo: "Mo, that was an error, uh in my calculations... when I was doing my due diligence."
v
2:34 pm on Saturday, April 28, 2012
Connecting the dots to "This Thing of Ours"? Now that's a new frontier. The wired in council members who couldn't shoot straight?
rtrux
5:04 pm on Saturday, April 28, 2012
castellano and russo need to be held accountable. what did they know, and when did they know it?
Tom Troncone
7:05 pm on Saturday, April 28, 2012
If you have any proof to back this up, we'd love to see it.
hobokenhorse.com
1:47 am on Sunday, April 29, 2012
This is not new information but as requested Tom, here's some information to connect the dots.
Last December MSV reprinted a story including the connections of a southern NJ arcade company and the mob when the million plus in quarters was identified as missing.
The question: why were three no bid contracts awarded to a southern NJ firm in the first place that was in the arcade business, not the municipal accounting business?
Brian Petaccio had mob connections prior to his Hoboken "engagement" in the video poker business, a well known profitable mob operation in the region.
The quarters were taken out of Hoboken and transported to southern NJ with no counting at all before taken out of town.
http://www.hobokenhorse.com/2011_12_19_archive.html
hobokenhorse.com
1:47 am on Sunday, April 29, 2012
The story of both Michael Russo and Terry Castellano has changed. After the monies were identified, with no investigation and no outside law enforcement agency moving on the matter, they attempted to persuade the late Mo DeGennaro the problem was resolved. Russo characterized it as his "mistake." Castellano infamously said not once, not twice but three times, "It's been cleared up."
The video with the brief timeline of what occurred in just over a month Dec.to Jan. 2008:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJTx-almAv8
At the last City Council meeting Castellano claimed their was no need for an investigation as the FBI did so. False. The NJ Attorney General's office would come in months later and only then was it "cleared up."
Hobbs
8:33 am on Sunday, April 29, 2012
It should be noted that Michael Russo's uncle was/is Hoboken's CFO of record.
It also should be noted that before Mayor Roberts hired John Correa it was widely reported that due to his past dealings he had been barred from Wall Street.
Things that make you go hmmmmm.
RedHaven
8:34 am on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Tom - your request for "proof" here for well known facts demonstrates the silliness of your assertion that you can be "objective" because you aren't jaded by any actual knowledge of history or context. The failure of Hoboken's local press to ask a single question or write a single word about the coverup is a disgrace. The proof is on a videotape that has been up on youtube for years and has been shown again and again on other sites. The Roberts Administration, with the obvious public complicity of Mike Russo and Theresa Castellano, attempted to cover up the theft of $1 million. They knew about the theft in late 2007and overtly lied to the public and to those Council members who were not complicit. The man they knew to be responsible was not held accountable in any way. In fact he remained director of the Parking utility until Zimmer became acting mayor in 2009.
These are not political "claims" they are easily verifiable facts provable from the public record with no investigation necessary. Not only does Patch not cover it, you ask a poster to give you "proof!" This is not "objectivity" its bad journalism. There's a very real story here literally demanding to be written yet no one has written it. Perhaps the reasons why would be a story too!
Prove the skeptics wrong - get the facts and write the story not spin.
ThisMeansWar
10:09 am on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Well, they're not covering the Calicchio or Klaussen trials either, RH. This is just a matter of selective editing. If the corresponding cases were against reformers, Patch would pounce on it. They've made it clear what they're about. The apple didn't fall far from the Hoboken Reporter after all.
RedHaven
10:20 am on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Decisions not to cover the Calliccio and Klausen "stories," are arguably legitimate exercises in editorial discretion though I disagree with the choices. The coverup of the quarter theft coverup is an entirely different animal. It is a major public corruption story and there is no legitimate journalistic reason for not covering it. If it is not covered that choice is nothing short of journalistic complicity in government corruption raising serious questions of journalistic integrity.
ThisMeansWar
10:45 am on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Patch showed further "editorial discretion" by covering a bar room altercation involving a former Kids First BOE candidate but not covering the story earlier this year when he had to do an emergency baby delivery at home. Just not as interesting I guess..
nice try
11:08 am on Sunday, April 29, 2012
"In 1993, John Corea was permanently barred from working at the New York Stock Exchange for trading so improper, one NYSE official called it "egregious." An NYSE investigation concluded that in 1990 Corea, who worked as a stockbroker at the time, purchased shares numerous times by pretending they were for a company that didn't authorize the trades. In such cases, traders normally buy the shares for themselves. But Corea refused to do so, and in an act nearly unheard of, he "walked off" the Exchange floor, leaving the firm with a loss of $656,632, said Steve Brostoff, vice president of the NYSE's Regulations Division of Enforcement.
Corea was disqualified as a member of the NYSE, but the next summer Corea pretended to be an employee of another firm and continued to enter trade orders.
After a long investigation, with which Corea failed to cooperate, Corea received a punishment of "censure and permanent bar," which means that no member of the NYSE could hire him in any capacity. In the decision, hearing officer Vincent Murphy wrote that "Mr. Corea's conduct was so far removed from the standard of conduct ... that no lesser penalty would be appropriate.""
http://www.nj.com/hobokennow/index.ssf/2008/07/why_was_parking_head_john_core.html
Tom Troncone
11:11 am on Sunday, April 29, 2012
@hobokenhorse @redraven @thismeanswar
Perhaps I should have been more specific. Is there any proof (not connect the dots, not follow the money, not other news stories or blog posts) that there was mafia influence/intimidation at work here?
RedHaven
11:12 am on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I'm not saying those other choices do not reflect bias - I think they clearly do. But each of those choices standing alone can be defended. Its only when you take the record as a whole - ie covered this and not that - that the bias becomes obvious. If Tom hasn't been paying much attention to Claire's choices over time then he could be genuinely unaware of the bias though now that its obviously been brought to his attention he no longer has that excuse.
The quater heist coverup on the other hand isa major public corruption story and the failure to cover it doesn't require any context to understand.
nice try
11:23 am on Sunday, April 29, 2012
"On her way out the door, Attorney General Anne Milgram announced the indictment of the former director of the Hoboken Parking Utility, John Corea, who is charged with conspiring with a contractor to steal more than $600,000 in parking meter funds from the city of Hoboken. The contractor is Brian Petaccio of Toms River, who pleaded guilty in September to stealing more than $1 million in coins from Hoboken’s parking meters. You can find Petaccio in The Soprano State (paperback page 262). Petaccio, who was convicted of running an illegal video poker operation in the wake of an indictment alleging organized crime, had been denied a liquor license application for an Atlantic City bar. But he had his record expunged and reapplied for a license after former Gov. Jim McGreevey took state troopers off investigating Atlantic City liquor licenses. The bar plans were canceled after coauthor Sandy McClure started asking questions."
http://www.thesopranostate.com/update09.htm
nice try
11:34 am on Sunday, April 29, 2012
"In November of 1990, the state Attorney General's office "filed a major civil forfeiture action seeking to take title to Grayhound Electronics, Inc. of Toms River, a manufacturer of amusement games," according to a report on illegal gambling machines made available on the New Jersey state website. "The complaint alleges that the firm was 'created by and is controlled by associates of' the LaCosa Nostra family of Nicodemo Scarfo and their designees," the report states.
Another account in the report describes the connection between the business owners and the crime family. It states that George Fresolone, "a 'made' member of the Bruno/Scarfo crime family ... had been assigned by Nicodemo Scarfo, Sr. (now incarcerated head of the Bruno/Scarfo crime family) to collect tribute from Carmen Ricci and Brian Petaccio, the owners of Grayhound Electronics."
"Ricci and Petaccio not only manufactured the [illegal gambling] devices, they distributed them in South Jersey and Philadelphia through a company called B & C Enterprises," the report said.
http://www.hudsonreporter.com/view/full_stories_home/2416338/article-Meter-made--State-police-look-into-missing-parking--
RedHaven
11:56 am on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Tom - if you're asking whether there's proof the coverup was due to mob intimidation the answer is no. There was a coverup - tha tappears to be a fact. Moke Russo and Terry Castellano first threatened to expose it and then reversed course and participated actively in the coverup. That is also a fact. As to why - a responsible reporter would be trying to find out and at least asking and reporting the questions.
Were they intimidated by the mob? Was the threat to expose things a tactic to extort something from Roberts? If so what was the quid pro quo Russo and Castellano received? Just the fact that there was a coverup by government officials isa big story even if there's no "proof" of exactly who got what illicit payment.
These are the questions the press never asked for reasons that cannot be explained easily. Now's your chance to prove you're not like the others.
Tom Troncone
12:08 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Thanks Red. Just to be clear, though, I'm not reporting for this site, I'm the regional editor for all of the Bergen and Passaic county sites. In other words, I oversee the editorial side of those sites. I've been minding Hoboken for the past two weeks because Claire was away, and then my counterpart took a much needed vacation.
I've reported pretty extensively on the mob over the past 17 years for The Record, The Asbury Park Press and The Herald-News, which is why I ask the questions. My expertise is in the DeCavalcante family...
Tom Troncone
12:10 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
@nice try
Thanks for those. I appreciate it. I have the Soprano State book, will crack it open later.
hobokenhorse.com
12:11 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Asking the question is there proof there was any mob influence at work here is somewhat begging the question. Brian Petaccio has been sentenced and yes his "work" was not in Hoboken per se, it was further down south. It's obviously connected to Hoboken and the Hoboken Parking Utility.
The HPU has let's say a colorful history and the FBI detailed Michele "five-bucks-a-tow" Russo's work there.
(As background MSV covered Michele Russo's extensive county search for a taxpayer paid job with benefits after she and her husband were flagged in an audit for costing Hoboken $100,000 in illicit health benefits.)
As another commenter notes, Petaccio has been named in "the Soprano State," for an earlier conviction involving video poker, a mafia cash cow and the indictment alleged organized crime involvement.
One must suspend disbelief to believe the $1.1 million or more looted from Hoboken's Parking Utility ended with just two people sentenced. Of course anyone could be naive to the basics of paying tribute, but MSV does not include itself among them.
However, Da Horsey will say godspeed to those who are continuing the investigation without detailing it further in this forum.
Questions are always a good thing. Questions all around! To all my friends!!!
ThisMeansWar
12:27 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
In fairness, albeit dismissive fairness, I think Tom is here as homeroom teacher rather than as a journalist. Detention, yes; expanded news coverage by Hoboken Patch, no.
RedHaven
1:55 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Tom I get the sense you genuinely are not familiar with the full story so here it is in a nutshell. Back in 2004 or so, Mayor David Roberts hired John Corea, a man who had been suspended for life by the NASD for fraudulent trading, to run its Parking Utility. Mr. Corea then hired known mobsters to handle the meter collections. It is unknown whether any other government officials were aware of the mob connection but they certainly should have.
In late 2007, the Roberts administration became aware that money was being stolen. Councilmembers Russo and Castellano became aware as well, probably advised by the City's CFO George DeStefano who is a close relative. Russo gently questioned the accounting of HPU revenue at a budget hearing in late 2007 in what appears in hindsight to have been a threat to the Mayor rather than an actual attempt to expose anything. Apparently the Mayor got the message, Russo was given whatever was required to buy his silence, and the coverup proceded successfully until Zimmer fired Corea and the AG blew the lid off in 2009.
This account is completely factual - no conjecture except for the guess at Russo's motivation. Oddly, our local press seems unconcerned with the coverup and the role played by people who still hold public office, content to pretend that this is a story simply about John Corea.
Clearly, there is far more to this story than has been told, and many are frustrated that the proper questions have not even been asked.
CaptJackd
3:55 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
@RedHaven - If in late 2007 the administration et al. became aware of public funds being stolen, would they not be bound by duty (or by law) to call in outside authorities? Is it not possible that an external investigation was already underway by the time that the CC quieted down about it--because they did not want to impede the investigation by speaking about it? I can't figure why else there would only be one person demanding answers about the 'missing million'.. (a private citizen at that)
Redrider765
5:16 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Tom, part of the problem in this town is nobody is reporting on things like who stole all the quarters, who covered it up, who knew what when and why did certain elected officials turn a blind eye to the blatant theft of so much money. You say you have some experience on reporting on the mob and I for one would welcome an experienced reporter looking into the criminal behavior that has plagued this town. So please, take your experience and write some pieces already! Claire seems like a sweet girl but she is completely in over here head here in Hoboken when it comes to covering stuff like organized crime, corruption & all the lying, cheating and stealing that goes on.
anthony l crockett
2:32 pm on Saturday, April 28, 2012
wow..steal a million ,get five years ,probably get out early for good behavior.
where do I apply for a job like that?
Cranky Old Bastard
5:09 pm on Saturday, April 28, 2012
Hmmm... A million bucks in quarters is over 50,000 pounds.
Say the guy worked 247 days a year. That's figuring 52 weekends and 2 weeks vacation, times 3 years. Plus he probably had to take plenty of other days off to "Launder" those coins.
That's close to 70 pounds a day, probably more. You gotta give him 'props' for getting rid of 70 lbs. of change a day.
Now, lock his ass up!!!
Francis Kurfuerst
5:09 pm on Saturday, April 28, 2012
I heard the turning point in discovering the theft is when they tried to buy a car with 50,000 dollars in quarters.
chrisrau
6:26 pm on Saturday, April 28, 2012
arrest the government for stealing our money to begin with, last time i checked our taxes paid for the roads. these are the same roads we have to pay to park. isn't that like paying rent on a house you paid for??
Ralph McGraw
6:47 pm on Saturday, April 28, 2012
And it took 3 years before money was detected missing. Maybe only 2 and a surveillance team set up. To be honest, that doesn't say a lot about how the accounting works.
Redrider765
7:07 pm on Saturday, April 28, 2012
Well you do know who the CFO is, right?
jaydee
9:10 pm on Saturday, April 28, 2012
Who says crime don't pay? 5 years for $1,175,000? or $235,000 pear year. I want to know how he did that. I'd take 5 years for that income. I spent 11 years at sea in the navy for $275,000. I call that a bargin.....the best ever.
Jaydee1958
9:10 pm on Saturday, April 28, 2012
Who says crime don't pay? 5 years for $1,175,000? or $235,000 pear year. I want to know how he did that. I'd take 5 years for that income. I spent 11 years at sea in the navy for $275,000. I call that a bargin.....the best ever.
tnjranch
9:14 pm on Saturday, April 28, 2012
Wow, he gets 7 years for second-degree official misconduct??? Wonder what he would have gotten for a real crime... 120 years????
adam
10:05 pm on Saturday, April 28, 2012
the parking meter is the WORSE stealing people vehicles,
the parking meter is alot of cheats, dirty business, a cop give a ticket to vehicle window for what reason,
i like free parking anywhere in america,
no no need parking meter at all,
the man is right,
parking meter is wrong
Mike Hughes
11:34 pm on Saturday, April 28, 2012
Let me see, Hummm, 5 tears, 1 million ?? Yeah, why not !! Just kidding. but ya gotta admit, tempting. LOL
Bill
8:32 am on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Not bad wages 1million $ and he will be out in less than 2 years and retire rich!~
Hobbs
11:45 am on Sunday, April 29, 2012
BADABING !
Grafix Avenger
12:08 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Where is my post? Jeez, censorship here's gone haywire. The people I named are PUBLIC OFFICIALS that controlled the levers of power when the $1,000,000 in parking meter revenue disappeared. And they are STILL in their taxpayer-funded elected or appointed positions.
So why did that get deleted? Am I being targeted?
Beth Horowitz
12:24 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I hope you are being censored, you're one of the reasons why I don't read this site anymore. As a public official yourself on the zoning board you sure have a sour mouth. You are hardly the professional and its an embarrassment to anyone not connected to you to know you're part of making important decision within this community. You're thoughts and opinions are grotesque in their verbiage. You should step down or shut up.
Grafix Avenger
1:02 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Now 'Beth', if you don't read this site then why are you reading this site? Your commentary is over-the-top, and there is no 'Beth Horowitz' in Hoboken. Not sure if censorship covers partisan attacks from fictitious characters.
Let's see.
ThisMeansWar
1:11 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Beth, no opinions of GA's bear upon matters before the Zoning Board, so she is under no obligation to step down or shut up. Your beef is not with her conduct as a ZBA member but with the opinions themselves.
Your preference for censorship - which is the essence of the only 3 posts you have ever made - is well noted. Why don't you go out and play for a while. http://hoboken.patch.com/articles/hoboken-s-girl-scouts-celebrate-earth-day#comment_3178160
Beth Horowitz
1:12 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Wow, you looked me up too? Yeah there is 2 of us actually, and we both rent, not making big bucks like you to own anything. Please refer to my post to Tom on the girl scout thread hence why I am here reading it today. Tom, do you see what people like this nuisance woman are doing? Chasing away everyone that dare leave a comment. Stalking people and looking them up. Tom is this what you want your readers to think, that if they comment and don't agree with someone then they'll be looked up? No wonder 20 people like this site and 10k don't.
Grafix Avenger
1:20 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Now 'Beth', how do you know that I own something? You seem to have done your research. You are a little too jazzed about me. Perhaps you are stalking me?
TMW, pls don't feed the troll.
Journey
1:22 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Beth your post are off topic, confrontational, begging for others to attack you.
You told Tom you wanted a fight and it took another confrontational past before anyone would need to take you up on it.
Beth Horowitz
1:26 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Should I call you Journey or Dr, Phil? You guys pollute this site worse than that bozo over at 411. Every time Hoboken gets a site someone has to crap all over it. Nice to see Tom taking an approach to stop this and get rid of the derelicts like this nutcase Nancy and some of her other cohorts. Im happy to meet any of you in person this afternoon to relay my thoughts personally. Should any of you want to talk let me know and we can arrange a meeting. thanks
Grafix Avenger
1:27 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Certainly, Beth. Contact me: grafixavenger666@gmail.com
hobokenhorse.com
1:29 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I look forward to the Beth Horowitz sit down.
Grafix Avenger
1:30 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Wanna join, Horsey?
Napoleon Complex
1:34 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Pretty simple really. If you don't like what is said on the internet just move on. No one is forcing you to read these comments. Feel free to chime in or not
Grafix Avenger
1:35 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Beth's a FAKE!
Took you a little too long to email, 'honey'.
Beth Horowitz
1:35 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I'm not giving any of you my personal email, lets arrange a time for everyone to get together today. If I give you my email you'll write something about me, i don't trust you nancy, in fact nobody does but Im happy to arrange and time and place here so everyone can join and share, perhaps the coffee place on 4th and Bloomfield later tonight?
Grafix Avenger
1:37 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
What a FAKE. Go piss off, 'Beth'.
Beth Horowitz
1:41 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Now I'm a fake and being told to piss off by an appointed Zoning Board member, wow Tom you're site is becoming so glamorous.
Grafix Avenger
1:47 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Fake-Beth says:
"Im happy to meet any of you in person this afternoon to relay my thoughts personally. Should any of you want to talk let me know and we can arrange a meeting. thanks"
Then Fake-Beth says:
"I'm not giving any of you my personal email, lets arrange a time for everyone to get together today. "
Fake Beth, have you read GA today?
http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/04/timmy-throws-fit-in-hoboken-reporter.html
Beth Horowitz
1:51 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Is Nancy being a wimp? I am happy to meet at Empire coffee at a specific time to chat but it sounds like maybe you're scared? Meeting you and withholding my email are just fine. You will google my email like you google everything else and I prefer to keep my information private et my name public. My email reveals some personal things I don't want you or anyone to know, medical stuff. You want to meet or you want to beat around the bush and make excuses to not show up? Maybe Mayor Zimmer was right when asked about you and your rants when she said "it is was it is"
hobokenhorse.com
1:54 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Love the smell of phony pop up names on a Sunday morning. Smells like phony Bet
ThisMeansWar
2:35 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Sara Sullivan, Beth Horowitz and whichever GA-obsessed name you'll be tomorrow ---- please consult a map. You are living in the most densely populated urban area in the northeast - not Kansas. If it's all too rough for you, then go home.
Beth Horowitz
2:47 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
TMW, this is not your argument, buzz off!
Tom Troncone
4:37 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Okay, really, please stop. Everyone go to their own corner.
Hobbs
12:30 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Have to wonder how you just stumble into bed with the Scarfo family ?
Tom Troncone
4:42 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
For the record, Beth, I absolutely can get an IP address banned.
Newcomer
5:06 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Every commenter and their cat uses proxy these days, banning IP's still occurs these days?
Beth Horowitz
2:35 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Ill be at Empire at 5pm sharp, in a chair outside with the cafe area, yellow blouse and jeans, mid 40's and tall, short brown hair, see you there Nancy
Grafix Avenger
2:42 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Oh really? No thanks, 'Beth'. But I am sure you know where I live. You may come here promptly at 3:30 pm and I'll give you 20 minutes of my time. Come alone.
Beth Horowitz
2:46 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Sorry I have an appointment with my manicurist then, come to Empire as stated and show yourself or it will only prove with a bull crapper you are. A phony for now and nothing more
Grafix Avenger
3:04 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Fake-Beth, that is the available time in MY schedule for YOU, and you have declined. But I can stop into your manicurist on the way to my appointment. Which manicurist? Where? We can have a brief chat, at least get introduced.
FAKE-Beth.
Beth Horowitz
3:23 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Last thing i need when getting pampered is you next to me, see you at Empire
Grafix Avenger
3:31 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Oh no, Fake Beth.
#1--I call the shots, not you.
#2-- It's 3:26 and you ain't at the manicurist.
#3- once suspended, you won't be able to come back at the same IP.
OK, Fake Beth. Got things to do, enjoy your fake day,
Hobbs
3:06 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Intresting that Tom T. has let this new Beth hijack and continue to spam PATCH.
As I have said before that if THE OLD GUARD can't control PATCH like they do H411 they will seek every means to discredit it.
Grafix Avenger
3:17 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I've already contacted Tom about our Fake-Beth situation. Time for a Fake-Beth suspension.
Beth Horowitz
3:25 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Old Guard? Im my own woman and you're all sacks. Paid hacks or doing it for free cookies and milk, something like that. Speaking of lives, i comment 1 day you all comment every day.
Tom Troncone
4:40 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Everyone stop. Please. Let's move on. You don't need to have the last word...
I don't want to have to close comments on what is a pretty important story.
rtrux
3:19 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
"beth" sound suspiciously like that pop-up commenter from a few weeks ago who claimed responsibility for getting people banned, supposedly speaking upon behalf of "the people of hoboken" who are feed up with comments they don't like, blah blah blah. the technique is exactly the same: come out of nowhere, profess to speak for the town's silent majority, throw in at least one anti-old guard remark in what they believe is a clever attempt to throw "us" off the mark, appear to represent some fictitious group who are finally taking a stand against...whatever. it's just troll who's bored on a sunday afternoon, total phony.
Beth Horowitz
3:26 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
You can come to Empire too, or you can create all these Zany comments to deflect it and such. Not one any side, just a resident sort of fed up with the shit on here.
Grafix Avenger
3:30 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Tsk tsk. Did our Fake Beth use profanity? Isn't she supposed to be at the manicurist?
Well, rtrux. Interesting theory.
Beth Horowitz
4:09 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
its called having a blackberry , you know what that is?
Hobbs
3:47 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
If the OLD GUARD can't control the content on PATCH they will try to destroy it as an open forum.
pat
3:53 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I'm trying to wrap my head around Grafix being called a "potty mouth." She's typing comments on a computer. WTF, fake Beth? Am I a potty mouth, too? Didn't you just type out the "S" word? Does that make you a potty mouth? Folks, we have a badass over here. Fake Beth's an IT elite person, too. LOL
Newcomer
4:15 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
I see that the ZimmerKabobs are in full action today, very true, many of them are paid, usually in diamonds or bagels. Nothing new in Hoboken I see....
rtrux
6:03 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
paid in "diamonds"...ahhhh, you've shown your hand. we all know where that came from, and where this is going.
Newcomer
6:06 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
shown what? the truth? the zimmolanterns will deflect anything and everything, wake up hoboken
Khoboken
7:18 pm on Monday, April 30, 2012
Typical vicuous anti semitic comment from the likes of Pussface and company. And they tried to skewer GA for exhibiting anti-semitism on her blog towards Betsy, today I am going to wear an enormous cross necklace, no, now I want to wear a star of David, Damn, what day is it?, Mason. Pathetic and sad.
ThisMeansWar
6:35 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
You're a "newcomer"? You're already dragging your loathing for GA into threads where she hasn't even commented: http://hoboken.patch.com/articles/what-should-go-here-d6679971#comment_3180689
And you're playing the diamonds angle.
So I guess this must be Create-a-new-ID-but-play-the-same-tired-I-hate-reform-song Day someplace in town, hmmmm?
Did you think about the stupidity of claiming to be a "newcomer" and making remarks like those? No need to answer - it was rhetorical.
Hobbs
6:41 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
If Mason and the OLD GUARD can't control the message on PATCH they will try to destroy it
pied piper
11:29 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
Let's not forget the collateral damage costs leading up to million dollar quarters scam.
Roberts "dismantled" the HPU, firing director (Serrano-?) and immediately created the Parking Authority, hiring Corea as director, during a hiring freeze.
Roberts paid Corea under the minimum pay, of 23k (?), until the freeze was lifted, then paid him 120k, immediately after. This was approved by the council, right?
Consequently, Serrano (the prior director for the HPU), sued the city and won her suit, once again costing the taxpayers money and the residents a loss of potential city improvements.
To recap:
Roberts knowingly replaced Serrano with a guy who was permanently barred from the NYSE. That same man (Corea) hired the mafia (controlled company) to count our quarters and the city council majority (Russo, Castellano, Cammarano,Ruben Ramos etc..) overseeing Roberts took Corea's explanation of an accounting glitch as a perfectly logical explaination and informed the public that the million dollars in missing quarters was all cleared up.
The residents once again lost out on a chance of a community pool, rec center and a slew of other great improvements and had ot foot hte bill for 1.1mm in missing quarters and a costly lawsuit- AKA: Business as usual for Russo and gang and the residents of Hoboken..
Amy Myseydah
4:23 pm on Monday, April 30, 2012
“and what about 916 Garden? Hoboken taxpayer money paid 2 million for a 15 month close of the garage with additional loss of revenues of another 1 million just to have operations cost that are now higher than before when the Florida company run the garage without any improvement in actual operations?
See Thurman Hart, adjunct professor of Political Science at New Jersey City University in his blog on July 10, 2008: ‘Or maybe the money flew to Israel: Corea said he, City Information Technology Officer Patrick Ricciardi, and one other person will go on a five-day trip to Israel, where Unitronics is based, next week to get certified training in how to operate and maintain the machines……..All that's missing is someone name Golan Cipel’
http://blog.nj.com/njv_thurman_hart/2008/07/what_did_you_expect_forrest.html “