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Metered Parking not in Effect in Hoboken Until After the Holidays

Metered parking in Hoboken is free until January 2, 2013.

The city council voted to waive metered parking for the holidays, with the goal of making shopping in Hoboken a little easier.

In a 6-2 vote — Council members David Mello and Jennifer Giattino voted "no" — the measure was approved.

Metered parking will not be in effect from December 20 through January 2.

oldguard December 20, 2012 at 09:22 PM
Why would they vote no? Seems incomprehensible.
puzzledone December 20, 2012 at 09:50 PM
Probably because this is one of the worst things you can do to a business district. The reason we have meters in the first place is to keep cars coming and going, rather than parked all day and stopping people from shopping. Allowing free parking with puchase in the garage fixes that problem completely.
Chuck December 20, 2012 at 10:15 PM
They'd vote no because they realize that people will just park their cars and not move them, thereby NOT making shopping (or anything else) easier.
Jabberwock December 21, 2012 at 12:33 AM
I applaud Bhalla and Cunningham for ending the silly debate. Judging by the foot traffic that was nil while the path was down, I think a lot of out of town visitors use mass transit to get here - stores'll be fine and, it's only one week. No residents are going to deposit their cars all day in parking spaces. We've done this for years and not once, I repeat, not once did I ever say to myself 'hey, let me go park my car on Washington Street all day because there are free meters.
HobokenReformer December 21, 2012 at 03:12 PM
Why would the city of Hoboken forfeit much needed parking revenue to subsidize unspecified beneficiaries?
FAP December 21, 2012 at 05:11 PM
Really? I have a friend visiting today and rather than park in a garage she just got free on street parking. We're going to catch up with people in NYC and she doesn't like to drive in NYC so this just saved her over 20+ bucks in Hoboken garage costs.
FAP December 21, 2012 at 05:15 PM
I believe the Chamber of Commerce favored another plan. The one where you received free garage parking for spending money in Hoboken stores. With this plan my friend who is visiting friends in NYC but doesn't want to drive in NYC just got free parking, rather than having to pay for a garage. . Not to worry, I'm sure only my friend and no one else will figure out they can do this and potential shoppers won't have trouble finding on street parking.
demosthenes December 21, 2012 at 05:24 PM
Jabby I'm trying to understand what you're saying here. You say that doing this will make no difference to stores because most visitors use mass transit and it will also make no difference to residents because residents for some inexplicable reason will not park there either even though it's free and means they won't have to move their cars for street cleaning. If you're correct, then there is no reason whatsoever to do this and the city is flushing away revenue for no reason whatsoever, a conclusion I completely concur with. Yet oddly, after making a compelling argument for the complete stupidity of this expensive exercise in political grandstanding, you say that its something so obviously worth doing that the debate about it is "silly." Maybe I'm missing something here. If I an please feel free to clarify. While you're clarifying, perhaps you can explain why you believe that commuters who park in lots and take the PATH in will choose not to take advantage of the free on street parking.
demosthenes December 21, 2012 at 05:29 PM
Jabby says we should do it because there are no beneficiaries at all and the debate about whether literally flushing $50,000 - $100,000 in revenue down the toilet for no reason is a good idea is "silly." I guess "silliness" is in the eye of the beholder since IMHO Jabby's post takes the "silliness cake."
Jabberwock December 21, 2012 at 06:10 PM
FAP - just shows what kind of friends you have - cheap. But, good for her, she saved 20 bucks! Merry Christmas. Why didn't you tell her she shouldn't do that because the parking space won't turn over and stores will go out of business if she parks on the street? I mean, if you oppose the measure, stand up for what you believe and suggest that your friend not do such an awful thing. Demosthenes: People that live in Hoboken park for free anyway (aside from the cost of the parking sticker.) Why should they drive over to Washington Street just to park for free, which they do anyway? You're suggesting that they will do it rather than move their car ONCE a week for street cleaning? OMG - someone with a car that they park on the street has to move it ONCE A WEEK! How awful. And so awful that NOW they are going to park it at a free meter JUST so they can get out of moving their car ONE TIME!!! Talk about entitled! This is for, like 5 days, does anybody think the meter revenue for 5 days is going to throw us off a fiscal cliff or something? Bhalla was right, it doesn't matter either way.
FAP December 21, 2012 at 06:58 PM
If our City creates an open free parking policy it seems foolish in the extreme to not expect people to use it. And open means open, it is without restrictions. It's silly to wet ones pants and call people awful for using the policy as designed. . I think the policy the Council Majority and the Chamber of Commerce worked on that allowed for free garage parking with proof of spending in Hoboken was a good incentive to shop here while not making city streets defacto vistor parking lots. . Perhaps some residents and councilpeople need to think a policy through before supporting it.
demosthenes December 21, 2012 at 07:13 PM
Jabby, I think you misunderstood FAP. He didn't say his friend was wrong to take advantage of a freebie that the City was inexplicitly offering. Of course she will and she should and that's the point. Doing this costs money and no one has yet explained what the City is buying for that money. You have now posted several times and other than saying we've done this before so we should so it again you haven't even attempted to identify what we are buying. Spending money and getting nothing in return is not simply silly, when its taxpayer money it's irresponsible. My guess is that meter revenue for five days is conservatively $50,000. Please let us know exactly what benefit taxpayers will be receiving that justifies this expenditure that would be enough pay a new policeman's salary for a full year. But I guess to you $50,000 of taxpayer money flushed down the toilet for no reason other than Councilpeople wanting to pretend they're doing something "doesn't matter either way." You say "talk about entitled" - I say "let's talk about stupid."
Barry Grossman December 22, 2012 at 08:00 PM
The city site shows different dates: http://www.hobokennj.org/2012/12/holiday-parking-enforcement-information/
Jabberwock December 23, 2012 at 11:07 PM
demosty - I think you don't know how to understand what you read. I didn't even remotely suggest that FAP thought his friend did anything wrong. I was just suggesting that, if he opposed the measure soooo much, he should stand by his convictions. Doing this doesn't cost money, it brings in less revenue for 2 weeks out of 52 - (as does the free parking in the garage.) I'm a taxpayer and, I guess I'm a little smarter with my money than you because I'm not crying and making a big deal over the loss of a minor bit of revenue from the parking meters for 5 days. Oh, and by the way, since you brought up the item of intellect: "let's talk about stupid" umm, please look up the definition of the word "several" and, after you do that, count how many posts I'd made at the time that you indicated that I had "already posted several times." Seriously, debating with you is such a waste of time, at least FAP appears to be able to make reasonable points.
XJS December 24, 2012 at 01:34 PM
I took full advantage of this over the weekend and had guests parked outside of my building for hours on the southwest side of Hoboken. We went to our annual Christmas lunch at Biggie's (on Newark) & had to park in a city garage because (as expected) there was no parking on Washington Street. However, our garage parking was free because we spent more than $200 on lunch & split the bill 3 ways so everyone had more than a $20 receipt. We did not drink. By my count we saved $42 on cabs (3 round trip cabs, $14 each) and $10 on 2 hang tags. The city received no benefit. The business that received our lunch $$ would have done so regardless. Hooray for this plan. *we had a couple of pregnant women & a physically handicapped person in our party, hence the cabs.
XJS December 24, 2012 at 04:13 PM
I just want to point out that my last post was posting at 8:30am on Monday, 12/24. Amazing how long I sit in moderation on this site (but just in Hoboken threads). I wonder why that is?

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