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Without St. Patrick's Day Parade, the Party is Still On

Partiers celebrated downtown on Saturday, March 3, 2012.

While it was less crowded than last year, thousands of people visited Hoboken on Saturday, as part of the annual St. Patrick's Day celebrations. 

QJ201 March 04, 2012 at 07:10 PM
While the "quantity" of the event was decreased, the "quality" of the event remained the same. Greedy bar owners with ridiculous door cover charges (all cash too...recording that as income? or does in go in the DL account?) Public puking and urinating Loud boorish behavior Public Drunkeness Littering Dangerously overcrowded houseparties Yep same crap. So when is the next idiot going to pull this flash mob crap again on Hoboken? They did pull a Santa-con last year...watch out for this year. Any other things we can "celebrate" with public drunkenness. And yes, I am Irish. Famous for the "Irish Goodbye." The second I get a bit too drunk I dash home before I get messy, etc.
hobokenhorse.com March 04, 2012 at 09:30 PM
This was far better than in recent years. MSV explains why and also why the frat party isn't going away: http://hobokenhorse.com
David A. Liebler March 05, 2012 at 04:24 PM
Lepre-Con 2012 Video highlights ....inside the bar scene... http://eatdrinkhoboken.com/2012/03/hoboken-leprecon-2012-the-movie-sick/ All in all it was a good day. Plenty of police on hand, tons of porto potties, the 11am delayed opening was a benefit and the house parties were dramatically down. The only thing missing was a parade. Lepre-Con showed me several things. The Parade was not the issue to the problems of the day. The Bars are not the problem. *The House Parties are the real issue. It was properly advertised as Zero Tolerance, along with the luck of the weather reduced the house parties, which resulted in less problems. *Having police visibility is an issue - This year was better, but there were 10,000 less people. *Having enough porto-potties - This was better then last year, but the town can still do better. There needs to be more and in more areas. This was a great start. FOR NEXT YEAR...BRING BACK THE PARADE NEXT YEAR! MAY THE TRADITION CONTINUE. IT CAN HAPPEN IF PEOPLE JUST TALK. DAVID
Rory Chadwick March 05, 2012 at 04:55 PM
The only thing missing was the parade? David come on man, be rational. How about the 100 plus retail stores that either closed up for the day or stayed open and made nothing, like say ME? The typical bar has steady flow of customers wed-sunday nights where us retail stores are weekend only with a few stores doing a decent business on certain weekdays. Why is it all about the bars and the covers. Why doesn't anyone throw us a bone ever? Are we invisible? Bars and retail stores work together all the time and when we close or lose business so bar-food can rake it in is saddening. How about you all take your cover charges and give it to us so we ca have a little something to say "hey this isn't that bad, we lost but the bars we work with still look out after us". For months I told everyone there is a way to make it work so everyone, residents and retail owners would be somewhat open to it and never heard from anyone, one way or no way it seemed. It's pathetic David. Greed and leaving everyone else at the front door like dirt man.
Rory Chadwick March 05, 2012 at 05:00 PM
And another thing, where is your buddy Mike Novak during all of this? Guy hasn't lifted anything but his trousers in months. Not a peep to help anyone out? Town is slowly rotting away while he twiddles his thumbs and practices his golf swing every day.
David A. Liebler March 05, 2012 at 07:02 PM
Rory stop complaining. You told me you were open for the day. If you have an issue with Novak....contact him direct or run for chamber of commerce president yourself.
David A. Liebler March 05, 2012 at 07:07 PM
I saw plenty of businesses open all day and doing very well. Granted they are food places like pizza or five guys but they were plenty busy. Your idea of bar owners sharing their revenue or covers with you is one of th stupist things that has ever come out of your mouth. Maybe they could share in your profits when you sell a purse or handbag. It's just silly!! Forget what i said about the chamber.
Rory Chadwick March 05, 2012 at 07:07 PM
Yeah, open and closed early, made $20. But don't throw this on me because you can, explain the same variables for the 120 or so others that didn't make $20 that day. How do i get a hold of Mike? Haven't seen him anywhere.
FAP March 05, 2012 at 07:08 PM
Liebler a local merchant is saying the Saturday was a total or near total loss and you say stop complaining? Way to show how you're part of the community.
David A. Liebler March 05, 2012 at 07:22 PM
Forde you love to have an angle to punch blog me. Businesses owners who closed for the day where short sighted. I saw plenty open and trying to take advantage of seeing new potential clients. The day was not chaos by any means. If I was a business owner on Washington I would not have closed.
David A. Liebler March 05, 2012 at 07:23 PM
Rory email me and I will forward you mikes contact info
Redrider765 March 05, 2012 at 08:05 PM
We have more than a few days where this town hosts festivals that have tons of food vendors which I can't imagine does wonders for the sales at many of the takeout joints and restaurants around town . Should we cancel those festivals b/c it might be a near total loss for a portion of the local restaurants?
xtreme March 05, 2012 at 08:25 PM
The bar culture is one the many things that give Hoboken it's vibrant culture and notoriety. I can only imagine how difficult a day like Saturday can be for a retail business. Rory, perhaps you can use this culture to your advantage by partnering with a local bar that has a large female clientele. For instance, on ladies night set up a table in the bar where you can showcase new merchandise. Host a monthly event at a new bar each month (or same bar) with the goal of expanding your product reach. Just a thought as a way to use this town's bar scene to benefit your bottom line.
Rory Chadwick March 05, 2012 at 08:33 PM
Yeah that's been attempted and hasn't worked out that great. I've tried that with a few places and nothing really panned out. I have tried relentlessly to make it work but it takes 2 to tango and when I promote it and the other does not then it's not worth it to keep trying to fix something I can't fix. With Lepre Con one day and then Music and Arts 2 days of the year, it's a lot of business loss. I always thought that there would be a mutual understanding between food/drink biz and other biz. It would be nice to see Mike Novak do something about it too, join people together. This is his job and he seems to be gone? I know he moved out of the county and I guess his role just dried up. If you know you can't hack it there is nothing wrong with giving it to someone else to run with. There are several people in Hoboken that are fit for the role. You just have to give it up and stop holding it and not doing anything with it. There is no one person to represent all of us, there are those of us that try however not 1 person really grabbing the bull by the horns. David just send me his info on Facebook, I see you're on there now, send it over, thanks
Redrider765 March 05, 2012 at 08:43 PM
Forget partnering w/ a bar. Get that website updated.
fritzyvonditzy March 05, 2012 at 08:50 PM
Tomorrow is St. Bad Blogger Day. Starts at 1pm at Newark Ave in Jersey City. The parade starts at the the base of 595 Newark Ave and leads in to the courthouse. Heard someone else filed charges against a certain person of interest today as well. This is getting interesting.
p1ywood March 06, 2012 at 02:59 AM
Au contraire, mon frère. Consider this: As stated in the article, the revelry was more evenly spaced throughout the day without having a focal event like the parade ending to create a surge of say an hour or so, where the sheer spike in lawless activity goes more unchecked on a percentages basis. The result from the dynamic this year, I would think, based on what I saw, was that the arrests were also down as a result of a strong law enforcement presence acting as a deterrent to crime. As well, the high number of port-a-potties must have eliminated many public urination violations, of which I would think the bulk of which are committed surreptitiously and do not result in a perp being caught and a summons being issued.

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