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It's Fight Night As Cop Car Is Stolen, Crashed

Dozens brawl as feuding families clash, police say.

Three large fights broke out and a cop car was stolen early Saturday morning in the Hoboken Housing Authority, according to police reports. 

Around 3 a.m., police arrived at 300 Marshal Dr. and found a group of about 100 people, of whom approximately 25 to 30 were involved in a fistfight, police said. Police called for back up. Jersey City police, NJ Transit police and a unit from Stevens Institute of Technology assisted, police said, resulting in about 20 cops on the scene. 

Police said they believe the fight was involved with an ongoing dispute between two families who live in the Hoboken Housing Authority. 

About 20 minutes after they arrived, the cops succesfully dispersed the group. As one officer walked to his car, another report of a large fight came in, this time at 400 Marshal Dr., police said. The officer—with his collegues—ran over there, leaving his keys in the ignition of police radio car 104.

Residents of the area also gathered and started yelling at the police, according to reports. 

While the cops were dispersing the other fight, the radio car was stolen and driven to Jersey City, police said. The car crashed into a parked taxi at 18th Street in Jersey City, according to police reports. It's unclear where the driver fled to. 

Meanwhile, another large fight had broken out at 320 Marshal Dr., also needing police attention, according to police. 

The police was unable to make arrests on Saturday morning, because they were outnumbered about ten to one, according to reports. 

puzzledone May 08, 2012 at 09:51 AM
OOC, you may want to do some research before you go round adding your anti-Zimmer charm. Get rid of Garcia and close the projects was HobokenTownie. If you look at his past posts, he is more eager to criticize than praise Zimmer, to put it lightly. Hobbs said "Perhaps it is time for Carmelo Garcia to give the HHA his full attention and resign from the Hoboken BOE." I can't disagree with that, seems the HHA may be a full time job here, as obviously we are seeing some problems in that neck of the woods.
Eric May 08, 2012 at 12:11 PM
Doesn't take long for OOC to come along and demonstrate how to be a moron by confusing a comment from one individual as coming from multiple people. Deerrrp!
Redrider765 May 08, 2012 at 12:55 PM
Doesn't take long for Outofhermind to make a broad generalization about 1 post that nobody agrees with. BTW, I think Hobbs was suggesting Carmelo focus on doing his job and stop messing w/ distractions like the BOE. Clearly the man is too distracted to get the job done over at the HHA right now.
Hobbs May 08, 2012 at 01:40 PM
NOPE, but you knew that. Considering all the problems that the HHA faces having it's six figure a year plus benefits Director give it his full attention is not unreasonable suggestion.
Journey May 08, 2012 at 01:43 PM
One of my dearest friends grew up in the Newark projects. He grew up. Went to Essex Community College and then to 4 year state college (where we meet). He went out in the world, worked, eventually helped buy his mom a condo. Then bought himself a house. Affordable housing has a valuable purpose. Used correctly it can be a path to a better future. Used wrong it can be a crutch. Abused, by allowing criminals to stay there, just hurts the innocent. What happened to evicting felons, do they still do it. What happened to Russo's support of 3 strike rule?
Journey May 08, 2012 at 01:50 PM
zombie or zombi (ˈzɒmbɪ) — n , pl -bies , -bis 1. a person who is or appears to be lifeless, apathetic, or totally lacking in independent judgment; automaton 2. a supernatural spirit that reanimates a dead body 3. a corpse brought to life in this manner 4. the snake god of voodoo cults in the West Indies, esp Haiti, and in scattered areas of the southern US 5. the python god revered in parts of West Africa 6. a piece of computer code that instructs an infected computer to send a virus on to other computer systems [from Kongo zumbi good-luck fetish] Outofcontrol, I do not see very much independent thought in your posts, are you sure you are not projecting a little much?
ThisMeansWar May 08, 2012 at 02:11 PM
Townie is hardly pro-zimmer. Hobbs said Garcia should concentrate on HHA, not leave. Make a little effort if you're going to dump on everyone.
Journey May 08, 2012 at 02:12 PM
See that is why I say Outofcontrol is more like a zombi, the lacking of independent thought.
CuriousGal May 08, 2012 at 02:29 PM
The zimmer supporters really show their true feelings-- in response to this story their solution is to get rid of a political opponent and get rid of affordable housing. Not even a mention of the state of the city under Dawn Zimmer's leadership.
cassandra May 08, 2012 at 03:11 PM
The city is becoming more crime ridden by the day.
rtrux May 08, 2012 at 03:22 PM
thanks for that total misinterpretation of what's been said about. i believe your comment is what's known as being a "troll". but you knew that.
HobokenTownie May 08, 2012 at 03:26 PM
Concerned -Mama Johnson does not belong to the people of the projects - it belongs to the tax payers and municipality. When you live off of the dime of the rest of society you are subject to a different set of rules. That area is the source of the vast majority of crime in the city. Many of the residents of the projects ARE NOT tax payers, they live off of the government. We waste endless money on this dump. Feel free to move into a private apartment, but I suspect it is easier to get the government handout!
HobokenTownie May 08, 2012 at 03:28 PM
I voted it for Pete and Beth just because Zimmer's bug eyes scare me. However, I have seen how Beth has now morphed into an old guard member and she is pretty scary. Montclair is pretty nice, but most of inland Jersey scares me.
Mr.budget May 08, 2012 at 03:29 PM
Red how would you like to be an officer responding to a scene knowing your outnumbered ?? What would you do if your surrounded by 100 people ?? Have the courageous five coumcil members tell the mayor to hire more cops
Journey May 08, 2012 at 03:58 PM
The only person that has said get rid of affordable housing is not a Zimmer supporter. Can you try and make your lies less painfully obvious?
Hobbs May 08, 2012 at 03:58 PM
NOPE ! But you knew that. I just asked a very fair question that with all the problems facing the HHA at this point would it not be appropriate for it's Director to focus on doing the job he is very well paid to do by the taxpayers rather than split his time between te HHA and the BOE. Your usual hate mongering and misinformation just makes you and your OLD GUARD politico friends just look worse. For the record, I full support the HHA detailed proposal that Carmelo Garcia endorsed to tear down the existing HHA buildings and rebuild new and better planned housing. I would hope at some point the funding could be found to make that happen as it would be a win win for everyone in Hoboken. :-)
Eric May 08, 2012 at 04:03 PM
Why do you want to protect criminals? All anyone (except one person, Townie) advocated for is tossing the crooks out of public housing. They cause trouble for law abiding folks and don't deserve the privilege. Oh that's right, you old guard types love criminals.
Napoleon Complex May 08, 2012 at 05:10 PM
Hey Kimmie, there is one person saying the projects should be gotten rid of. If you look at that person's post history, you'll see he or she is no Zimmer supporter. Of course you knew that and are only here to stir up trouble and paint good people with a dishonest brush. Between your and your husband your kid would be better off raised by wolves
HobokenTownie May 08, 2012 at 05:20 PM
I am proponent of small government and this experiment in government housing based on real entitlements creates a circle that is in perpetual motion. Maybe we should return to the free market - if these people had to actually worry about paying rent they would be sleeping at 3:00 a.m. Public housing surely counts as failed policy. The very term "projects"--short for public housing projects--has become synonymous with squalor, crime, and desperation. People fight to keep the projects out of their neighborhoods and avoid them in their commutes. For 25 years nearly everyone has lamented the failure of the public housing program, yet it persists. Like a virus that mutates faster than it can be killed, it lurches from one form of subsidy to another, each but a step ahead of the ensuing disillusionment. http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=239
v May 08, 2012 at 05:21 PM
Simply a complete misstatement and misrepresentation of the facts by CuriousGal. Sure, assign any position you deem unfavorable to the current administration. That's just what CuriousGal does, and does poorly at that. Try sticking to the cherry picked facts this time.
ThisMeansWar May 08, 2012 at 05:38 PM
You know, CuriousKim, it's one thing to lie when people have to go do a little digging to debunk you. It's another thing when you are referring to posts everyone can read. Townie is anti-Zimmer. Everyone including you knows it. I guess this means that ALL anti-Zimmer people are anti-public housing.
Gardiner4Freeholder May 08, 2012 at 06:40 PM
I heard the fight was over Carmelo Garcia not getting his anointed best friend Joe Bronco appointed to the Housing Authority. After all Joe with his bar business has unique insight into the issues of affluent night club style drinking that gives him a good understanding of night time altercations. Just kidding. I like Joe and have for him this sage advice, if you are a blogger stay off the political boards, same for businessmen. As for the fight, was this gang related or what? I agree with Red Rider and would like to see the first strike policy clean out the projects of these 20 - 30 individuals so that the deserving law abiding vast majority of people there can live in peace.
Where Is Tom T? May 08, 2012 at 07:18 PM
Tom This post has gone from being a story to politics and comments are hard to filter through and understand, can you please remove the comments not associated with the post so myself and 49,986 other residents can actually read and enjoy this post, thank you
borninhobo May 10, 2012 at 01:11 AM
hoboken townie why would you make a ASININE satement like that your are truly a[blank-blank]....i don't usually speak of people in this manner but you will be judged and not by anyone on this earth you might even be sentenced to live with nobody but PROJECT PEOPLE in your after life now that would be a sight to see,,, I'M BORNINHOBO AND I APROVE THIS COMMENT....SHOUT OUT TO GA n HORSEY.
borninhobo May 10, 2012 at 01:12 AM
STATEMENT
Eddie Johnson May 10, 2012 at 04:49 AM
... Why is there no outcry to get rid of, or eject the drunken, coked-up, urinating white kids on Washington st. when similar incidents occur?... anyone?
hob.born_n_raised May 10, 2012 at 04:57 PM
wow! from the words of "slum" to "project people" to "TRASH" leaves me speechless, It's really sad how we are labeling each other and fighting for land and we all live in the same town. How sad this really is to bicker and point the finger at one another. No_One is to pass judgment because as I recall there is trouble flowing all through Hoboken...drunks on Washington Street, domestic violence on Hudson Street, Robberies on Newark Street, Violence on Jackson, its everywhere! So for anyone to point the finger or think they know what really goes on in "the projects" check yourself first. These new comers don't know what Hoboken is really about or how it originated ....MOBs-Gangs,Money was power: fighting was they answer down in Hoboken. These condos and brownstones are a distraction to the reality of Hoboken.
urinatingwhitekid May 10, 2012 at 05:55 PM
Hey. Coke is so 80's. Don't drag me into this.
rtrux May 10, 2012 at 06:08 PM
maybe because those people don't actually live in hoboken. read the police blotter, 95% of those arrested have come here from out of town to party, kind of hard to evict them.
concerned May 10, 2012 at 09:36 PM
Hoboken Townie, you must be a very lonely person. also a racist. let me tell you the projects have been here since the early 50's. there are good and bad people everywhere. The park belongs to everyone at one time it was only for the project residents to have the children and residents to play baseball and sports etc. There are tax payers living here also. The new comers play here like I said and we do not complain about it. It is sad that you do not look at yourself and talk bad of people who are in need of help and assistance. one day you will need help and not like to be insulted and put down. I personally can say we pay rent my Husband is a hard working man as my children who are now adults and work hard for a living PAY TAXES do not live on welfare and have moved on. We raised our kids here and put them through college with our hard earned money. to each his own so I would appreciate it if you do not judge every one that live in the HHA the same . I agree with some of the bloggers here that the trouble makers should be evicted and protect us better from the people who come from other city's here to corrupt the kids. as far as tax payers as you say, there are plenty of tax payers who do not agree with you. enjoy your condo and leave everyone else alone.

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