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Pier Collapse Prompts New Plans For Sinatra Park

A further collapse of the decaying pier at Frank Sinatra Park occurred May 4.

The city's engineering firm is drafting new plans for the construction of Frank Sinatra Park after the pier further collapsed on May 4. 

A rapid increase of shipworms eating at the wood that is holding up the pier has made it impossible to follow the firm's and the city's plan to rehabilitate the piles by encasing them in reinforced concrete. During the time it took to acquire the necessary permits to complete this from the Department of Environmental Protection as well as from the Army Corps of Engineers, the destruction exponentially increased. 

Parts of the pier on which Sinatra park rests, collapsed in 2009. While initially, three years ago, the wooden piles holding up the soccer field had a 30 to 50 percent section loss, it has now changed to 50 to 100 percent, engineers on the site explained on Monday.

Currently, wooden piles are holding up a timber deck, on which a sea wall rests. Timber is holding up the whole pier. After the construction, concrete and steel will be holding up the pier and no more wood will be used, the engineers said.

Under the new proposal, which is supposed to be completed at the end of the week, a new sea wall will have to be built, on top of steel piles filled with concrete, explained engineer Michael Nannini, who works for Boswell Engineers. 

"It wasn't the first option, but it's the next best option," said city engineer Joe Pomante. This way, he explained, the habitat in the water under the soccer field will also be saved. 

The reconstruction of the field—the new piles, the new sea wall as well as a new deck—is estimated to be completed in August 2013 if the DEP and the Army Corps grant the necessary permits, Nannini said. 

"Rehabilitating the piles is no longer an option and we must instead do a complete reconstruction with a new high level platform," Mayor Dawn Zimmer wrote in a memo to the council.

The engineers couldn't yet give an exact estimate about the cost, but said it'll be significantly more than the initial plan. 

"It'll be more money," said Pomante, "no doubt about it."

About 12,000 tons of soil will now have to be taken away from the pier, because the entire foundation will be replaced. 

Standing on the edge of the pier on Monday, Zimmer sighed. "It's pretty bad," she said as she looked down at the new collapse. 

The increased danger of collapse could also be dangerous for divers assessing the situation. "We are lucky nobody died on the job," Zimmer said. 

A temporary sheet wall will be placed around the area, while the construction takes place, so that a new sea wall can be constructed. 

The wood piles as well as the wood deck keeping the field up are about 100 years old. 

"We want to get this done," Zimmer said. 

CuriousGal June 26, 2012 at 08:10 PM
I'm not saying bonding does not make sense---or even that it is not a financially unwise thing to do--- I'm saying that Dawn used bonding as an excuse not to get the park down. There was more than enough surplus to put a light in. So, the town goes for a few years without a park at 1600 Park Ave because it is better to bond than purchase a stop light. Really?
puzzledone June 26, 2012 at 08:14 PM
I'm sorry, who do you think I am? You seem to have missed the gender, to start with. And I'm sick of my tax money paying for developer kickbacks and dinners at frankie and johnnies, as well as the Russo family tree.
zimmersbroomstick June 26, 2012 at 08:18 PM
CG stands correct, everyone else is spinning this 6 ways til Sunday. I guess the Mayor has a bigger staff than we thought.
puzzledone June 26, 2012 at 08:28 PM
Yes, zimmersbroomstick is the one who spots spin, and CuriousGal who has been caught spinning lies and half-truths hundreds of times is the one who is right on point. Why don't you go back to the grocery store on washington avenue.
zimmersbroomstick June 26, 2012 at 08:57 PM
CuriousGal Is it me or is it every time I post a first name they jump right to the "not me, not me" aspect? Then they hint they know so and so or they say they're going to flag things, don't you wish they'd just be honest and say "ok, its me". They think it's ok to call you out by name, and Lane, me, Matt and others but I am doing it, it's bad and unfair. You started it minions, were just playing too.
pied piper June 26, 2012 at 09:02 PM
Mayors Russo and Roberts were given 78mm, Mayor Zimmer got handed a bill that increased the municipal rate by 80%- the fact that this city gets anything is impressive, especially considering the tax levy doesnt go up. What the heck happened to that 78mm? How much waste was there????????????????????????????????????
puzzledone June 26, 2012 at 09:12 PM
Ok, you got me. I'm Kate whoever. Seriously, either you are right and I am who you say I am, or you are wrong, and I am just plain old me. What can i say. I can either admit you are right (which I assure you, you are not), or I can say you are wrong. If I say you are wrong, you will keep implying you are right, as if you know something, but given that you are wrong about pretty much everything on here, I consider the source. The only worry I have is for Ms. Kate. I assume she's a nice person, and I don't want you harassing her for the fact that I have continued to expose how ridiculously moronic you keep on being.
rtrux June 26, 2012 at 09:37 PM
correction, owl: zb=today's brand new commenter, the latest in a long long long line who knows everything and is plugged into local politics but for some strange reason just never commented here before. funny, that. aka, an old guard troll.
pied piper June 26, 2012 at 09:39 PM
Cg- as always you're in a haze...Russo and Roberts got 78mm here's what they promised: At a news conference announcing plans for the new Pier C, which city officials estimate will take two years and $23 million to build, Mayor Anthony Russo called the Olympic-sized municipal swimming pool the "crown jewel" of the new plans. Pier C park will be chock full of amenities, including a municipal swimming pool, an ice skating rink, concessions stands, tennis courts, a running track, a covered pavilion, a children's play area and public bathrooms Zimmer got a bill for an 80%increase in local levy and nearly NOTHING to peanuts- to build and renovate the 6 parks. What happened to that 78mm??? How much money did your buds make off the residents? Sell what you are peddling somewhere else, it aint workin here.
zimmersbroomstick June 26, 2012 at 09:55 PM
Ladies, enough already. I know and my sources have told me so. You want to bust my chops, I'm going to bust yours.
zimmersbroomstick June 26, 2012 at 10:25 PM
Dave Mello aka not so mellow is in the news today, he assaulted a city councilperson the other night. So now we have a Mayor that doesn't do anything but stuff envelopes, a council member she is friends with beating up other council people and a council president that got caught driving with a suspended license. Attention Hoboken, this is not made up this is all facts. A little funny too. Is this who you want running your town? A bunch of crooks
Hobbs June 26, 2012 at 10:34 PM
The OLD GUARD political flacks can't even spam PATCH without making themselves and their patrons look even more negative, nasty and petty. :-)
zimmersbroomstick June 26, 2012 at 10:41 PM
None of our council allies are in the news for driving with a suspended license and were not in the news for assaulting other council members. How is that spam? You spin the best Hobbs. Did Dawn make your coffee right for you this morning?
zimmersbroomstick June 26, 2012 at 10:47 PM
Did you sell any stones today?
Hobbs June 26, 2012 at 10:54 PM
Thank you for proving my point about being negative, nasty and petty. :-)
zimmersbroomstick June 26, 2012 at 11:00 PM
Negative? You're the ones with the rap sheets. You get put on the spot and its all true and you routinely deflect it. Keep to the stones, you're blogging is terrible.
Hobbs June 26, 2012 at 11:14 PM
How many times have we seen here on PATCH a new screen name pop up and post inane anti-administration spam. Since the OLD GUARD can't control the responses here they are looking to discredit it. It never works out for them and the just end up looking worse. I guess it has been another bad news week of Mason.Russo & Co. :-)
Hobbs June 26, 2012 at 11:25 PM
True H.O. but Mason, Russo & Co feel the need to try to deflect from Occhipinti's out of control childish behaviour. They have a lot of money invested in Tim and he is self destructing. :-)
pied piper June 26, 2012 at 11:32 PM
So the newpapers post that Ochhipinti goes on a tare against Bhalla, Lincoln and Mello, and zb's take is mello assualted and beat up other council people. ZB then claims that "this is not made up this is all facts". So much for ANY hope of ANY reliability or factual info, coming from ZB
Napoleon Complex June 26, 2012 at 11:53 PM
If you are aligned with a Calichio you are clearly in no way interested in actual education. If you are aligned with Burns or Belfiore you probably aren't interested in honesty or steak dinners at Dino & Harry's you would pay for yourself
zimmersbroomstick June 27, 2012 at 01:51 AM
Khoboken You recreated my name, and my avatar and made a comment and then say its Finboy? You then took it down. We know what you did, we all know 16 people can have the same user ID with a different email address. You think I'm so and so and you make stuff up, take a screen shot of it and then take it down and send to GA, you're clever, i hear you used my avatar too. You're very clever, but you got caught this time and Lamarc appears to be all over it lol. See ya in the paper wimpy.
zimmersbroomstick June 27, 2012 at 02:12 AM
Former Zimmer allies moving to new seats tonight? Interesting.
zimmersbroomstick June 27, 2012 at 11:58 AM
Pier C may collapse in a few years, lets hope Dawn Zimmer the mayor has engineers looking at what holds up that park.
Redrider765 June 27, 2012 at 12:16 PM
Stop cleaning your ears out w/ that broomstick b/c that causes brain damage. Based on your posts, the damage is already pretty bad so don't compound the problem by continuing to stick broomsticks into that empty cavity you call a head.
zimmersbroomstick June 27, 2012 at 01:37 PM
Red, if I recall you're the one who likes flesh broomsticks? Hows the 2 daddy thing going anyway?
Redrider765 June 27, 2012 at 01:42 PM
the what? you have just proven you have no clue who I am, no clue at all.
Hobbs June 27, 2012 at 01:43 PM
Liz Markevitch has really sunk low fronting for the same OLD GUARD politicos that were behind convicted felon and former mayor Peter Cammerano and buy a vote Tim Occhipinti, The voters of Hoboken will hopefully look behind the strawmen the OLD GUARD politicos now need to provide them cover are using and reject them.
zimmersbroomstick June 27, 2012 at 03:21 PM
Who is going to die in Hoboken from a collapse next? Time will tell
zimmersbroomstick June 27, 2012 at 03:33 PM
Piers and Administrations, collapsing every day. Wake up Hoboken
Redrider765 June 27, 2012 at 03:37 PM
The only collapse I am seeing is a complete mental breakdown by ZBS

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