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City Presents Design for 1600 Park; Scheduled to Open this Year

Mayor Dawn Zimmer and city directors were present on Monday night in City Hall.

The city presented its latest conceptual design for the soccer field at 1600 Park to about 60 interested citizens, officials and stakeholders in the basement of City Hall on Monday night. 

The field——will be opened this year, Mayor Dawn Zimmer said. The city will start the bidding process this spring to find a company to start renovating the park, located at 16th and Park Avenue. 

"It'd be ideal to have it in the Fall," said Director of Health and Human Services Leo Pellegrini, in time for the start of the season of the city's recreational leagues. 

Zimmer said that the soccer field at Sinatra Park will also see construction this year. The contract to hire a construction firm for that field will be on the city council's agenda at the first meeting in February. 

Several drawings were presented on Monday night by landscape architect John Imbiano, of the firm Imbiano and Quigley, which was hired by the city for this project. Citizens expressed some of their wishes—a dog run, enough restrooms—and provided feedback to the drawings. 

One of the initial problems at the park was contamination of the soil there, which would have had to be solved by raising the soccer field and surround it with a seven-foot-wall. This option raised concerns from parents (who found it unsafe) as well as members of the stakeholder committee (who didn't find it aesthetically pleasing). 

"The stakeholders went to the mayor and said 'stop,'" said Jim Vance, who represents the Fund for a Better Waterfront on the stakeholder group. After that, Vance continued, Imbiano helped create a new design.

The contaminated soil will be moved from the soccer field site, said Director of Community Development Brandy Forbes. She could not say on Monday with what the soil was contaminated. 

The new park will be paid for with a Green Acres grant, Forbes said also. The city has $1.7 million to construct the soccer field at 1600 Park and $1 million to renovate the Hoboken Cove. 

Another reason , was the lack of a traffic signal at the intersection of 16th Street and Park Avenue. The park will still not open without it, city directors said. The city and the county are currently in the process of coordinating the placement of the traffic light before the park opens. 

Hoboken Answer January 24, 2012 at 02:16 PM
This park is obviously another Zimmer plot. I remember when my councilwoman Terry Castellano read out all the park and open space in Hoboken - by the square foot! We had plenty and even less growing up. Terry was right there was already too much. She showed leadership then and she's right along with Beth Mason, Tim Occhipinti and her beloved cousin Michael Russo in keeping this park closed. If they try to bond for a capital item they should do it again. We didn't have this growing up in Hoboken. It's a waste. Signed, NotOOC
HobokenDad January 24, 2012 at 02:58 PM
Great news for Hoboken.
Hobokeneer January 24, 2012 at 03:34 PM
It was great to hear professionals who are really working on making this space the best possible waterfront park/athletic field space for our community. Also, refreshing to see the Mayor and her administration fully invested in making a beautiful, lasting public space for our community in what is now a desolate, forboding place. Lots of great feedback from the community, and thoughtful consideration from the city's architect and engineers who are working hard on these issues for the community.
KenOn10 January 24, 2012 at 04:02 PM
This design looks nice, but a bit over-engineered for my taste - plenty of things that will break when not properly maintained and not enough passive open space. But, a good thing, overall. Need more info about the contaminated soil on the soccer field. Was this not "remediated" last year at substantial cost? If any substantial amount of contaminated soil is removed there is no way the park will open this year....
CaptJackd January 24, 2012 at 04:07 PM
I think that the best possible athletic space (in that location) would be enclosed at least during part of the year under a 'bubble'. Or a field house would be an even more useful project for a broader and larger segment of Hoboken's citizens. Think of what an all-weather, all-season facility would be like, and maybe partnership with the private sector to make it financially feasible in these times. $1.7MM for an outdoor soccer field seems very high for what we are getting.
Redrider765 January 24, 2012 at 04:11 PM
It was capped, that is it. Since folks now want the field to be closer to street level, they can't just build a wall, fill in the area w/ more dirt on top of the cap and put the field on top of that. They need to remove the cap, remove the contaminated soil & then build on top of that.
HobokenTownie January 24, 2012 at 04:16 PM
You are always so negative. It is saddening to see that you can never add or see anything positive. Your agenda is clear and therefore your thoughts are diluted and without merit on most topics.
Hoboken Answer January 24, 2012 at 06:15 PM
@ HobokenTownie. Nope not being negative, it was satire and historically factual.
Lance January 24, 2012 at 08:38 PM
I am guessing you have no kids!
p1ywood January 24, 2012 at 09:42 PM
@KenOn10: you said "....a bit over-engineered for my taste - plenty of things that will break when not properly maintained and not enough passive open space". I for one think proportionally their is enough passive open space, but this town could always use more. But that is a matter of "to each one's own". I am curious about the rest of the sentance -could you site examples of "over-engineered" and "plenty of things that will break when not properly maintained"? Honest question geared toward working toward a better park.
HobokenTownie January 24, 2012 at 10:30 PM
Ken your response is spot on. @p1ywood - this is similar to the debacle of pier C. My kids love the park, but seriously the wood is already splintering, stainless steel slide (blisters in the summer), fencing that does not go all the way down to the sidewalk (i guess debris blowing into the river or rolling into river is okay), staircase up to slide is a deathtrap and sandpit is just nasty)
Hobbs January 25, 2012 at 12:01 AM
"Your always so negative It's always saddening to see you can't add anything positive." LOL ;-)
Enough January 25, 2012 at 02:02 AM
Where's the pool?
Redrider765 January 25, 2012 at 01:50 PM
Ask Dave Roberts.
CuriousGal January 25, 2012 at 01:56 PM
I really enjoy these opportunities for public feedback on projects that are years delayed. I think its a wonderful way of keeping the park in the news and the public eye while not having to expect much from an administration that promised this park would be completed over a year ago. Can we have another meeting this summer for even more public feedback? That would make me feel even MORE involved.
Lane Dastardly January 25, 2012 at 02:00 PM
go back to Beth Mason's house and write another one you troll
CuriousGal January 25, 2012 at 02:06 PM
This isn't about you or me-- this is about the constant delays and excuses we hear from Dawn and her administration on anything that takes coordination, planning and effort to get done. And now these ridiculous "town meetings" for input. Maybe it works in New Hampshire....
Lane Dastardly January 25, 2012 at 02:26 PM
okay then let's have a meeting about the baseball stadium that Mason was all on talking about creating on the west side. whoops, went nowhere, topic dropped. Let's talk about Mason voting down the bond for the traffic light so this Parrk ave project could be further along. whoops, that dosn't work for you either. town hall meetings are better than silly presss releases every two weeks that say nothing
CaptJackd January 25, 2012 at 02:32 PM
The cove might be the perfect place for something like this (cost around $4mm): http://www.floatingpool.org/index1.html
CuriousGal January 25, 2012 at 02:33 PM
yeah-- let's have a meeting. Sounds like a good idea.... We had a @20,000,000 surplus but Dawn wanted to bond for a traffic light and hold up the project for another year or two. If she was a leader she would have gotten it done instead of looking at who to blame for her and her administration's inability to deliver on anything that takes planning, coordination, and follow through.
Lane Dastardly January 25, 2012 at 02:34 PM
now it's with the obtuse and untrue budget nonsense. just admit you are trying to tear down the administration for Mason
Hobbs January 25, 2012 at 02:47 PM
After many years under past Hoboken Administrations of nothing being done on this site a great plan and a money to execute it are now in place under the Zimmer Administration. When ligitimate shareholdersof the park had ligitimate concerns they were addressed . That is they way things should be done and because of it Hoboken will be better. The messure twice cut once constuction rule is always wise to follow. :-)
Redrider765 January 25, 2012 at 02:50 PM
Curiouslyobtusegal rears her obtuse little head. If you wanted a park built ASAP, you should have told your boss to approve the light. Don't know why you care all that much though b/c you live so far from the park that I doubt you even have ever walked past it.
pied piper January 25, 2012 at 02:56 PM
It seems to me that Mason is pretty inept at handling even the simplest of issues in her own ward. If it weren't for Joe Barry's applied housing vote, that woman's goose would be cooked. I am guessing she wont be able to stop the huge Barry construction project in her ward, either. I am sure she'll make up some excuse for her constitiuents as to why, once again she couldnt help them (ya know-like the prior Maxwell issues). What does that woman stand for? She's for develop or die, but is going up against the barry project (yeah- right) She's for supporting elected officials like Cammarano, Timmay, Russo and the like and paying thugs like callichio, but wants responsible govt. (yeah-right) She's for saving the hospital, but votes and rallys against helping to save it She's for lowering costs but cant point to anything to cut, in a 100mm budget, except a one time 40k cost. She's for lowering the legal bills but then causes multiple delays and issues when dealing with contract negotiations, causing legal costs to skyrocket She's against the high costs of legal dept but supports ex-exployees filing lawsuits and has filed many of her own. She's for transparency but refused to release a public video of her at a DCA meeting. She's for fiscal responsibility but won't approve of a refinancing deal that would net the city 50k vs costing the city 4.5mm. Mason better hope the Tea Building people never get their act together and come out in force to vote. She'd be toast.
CuriousGal January 25, 2012 at 10:04 PM
blah blah blah blah--- at the end of the day, Dawn can't seem to get anything done that requires planning, foresight, follow through and creativity. A good leader gets things done, rather than makes excuses. Sitting on a $20,000,000 surplus and getting a light put in so people could enjoy 1 or 2 additional years of park use doesn't occur to her. Why? Because if the light was put in, it would expose the lack of planning that completion of the 1600 park would require. Better to have an excuse than a park I guess--- Come on Dawn--- get something done already!
CuriousGal January 25, 2012 at 10:05 PM
The floating pool is a great idea--- always thought so
Hobokeneer January 26, 2012 at 02:36 AM
If CuriousGal had bothered coming to the meeting, she would have been impressed. But it's easier to blog about it and tear it down.
Lane Dastardly January 26, 2012 at 03:18 AM
Curious Beth Mason operative just perpetuates lies, as all trolls do - not about sense at all. if Mason hadnn't played games with the hospital sale trying to sink the deal, we might have some money in the kittie. but we don't -thanks beth and your misguided sabotage of the city, also through these bloggers like curiousbethmasonoperative

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