Doyle's Seat to Remain Vacant for At Least Two More Meetings

Many votes could fail in a 4-4 stalemate.

The Hoboken City Council will officially only have eight members for at least two upcoming meetings.

This will likely mean that controversial issues will either be postponed or will fail in 4-4 votes.

A couple of weeks ago, Hudson County Assignment Judge Peter Bariso ruled that five votes were needed to appoint councilman Jim Doyle, after the four minority council members sued the city and the rest of the council.

While the minority considered Doyle's appointment "illegal," Corporation Counsel Melissa Longo and City Clerk Jimmy Farina said that a simple majority was needed to appoint Doyle. The judge disagreed.

Doyle was initially appointed to serve the remainder of former council woman Carol Marsh's term.

Marsh's term was originally set to expire on June 30, 2013. Now that the municipal elections have officially been moved to November, that term won't expiere until the end of 2013.

Now, the city has filed a counter suit in hopes to require all council members to be present at a mandatory meeting to vote on a new council member. In the event of a 4-4 vote, the mayor can cast a deciding vote to appoint a council member.

Since Doyle's appointment, however, there hasn't been a meeting where all nine council members have been present.

The next hearing by Judge Bariso is scheduled for December 14. There are council meetings scheduled for Nov. 28 and Dec. 5.

It's unclear what happens if council members abstain in a vote to appoint a council member. During the first time the council appointed Doyle, Councilman Michael Russo abstained.

Members of the minority have said that the seat should be filled in a special election, rather than by appointment. When asked if he would run in a special election, Doyle said he didn't know yet.

"This would be a $120,000 special election for me to be there for five months," Doyle said, and "that’s just to the tax payer."

While waiting until mid-December is making him a little impatient, Doyle is keeping calm.

"This isn't about me," Doyle said. He said he will be present on Wednesday night, but will be sitting in the audience. 

"It's a little frustrating," Doyle added, "at both of those meetings not much of substance is going to happen."

Grafix Avenger December 12, 2012 at 04:45 PM
She-who-plagiarizes-from-Wikipedia, who cares about a photo certified 'public'? More deflection from the fact you steal and post Wiki content pretending those are your words. Now that we have established you are an academic lightweight who relies on Wikipedia to impress PATCH readers and the public is now aware you a thief who lifts content word-for-word from Wiki while deleting footnote annotations, would you like to comment on this: "(2 operatives' names redacted) deliberately had no phone communication with Beth Mason for almost a year... they'd been planning this for a long time even to the point of not having contact with Beth." Very interesting, no? Wait until you hear the rest.
CuriousGal December 13, 2012 at 03:38 PM
Sweetie, there is a picture of you in the dictionary under the word "sick"--- you've redefined the word, especially for public officials. Why you and your antics have not made national news is beyond my comprehension. "Fake" assassination threats to elected officials, use of Nazi propaganda, references to "piles of vomit", and portraying political opponents in bowls of feces has redefined the term "sick" as far as I'm concerned. Why Dawn keeps you on the Hoboken Zoning Board is beyond me.
Grafix Avenger December 13, 2012 at 06:22 PM
Well "Sweetie", you certainly did try. But like everything else you do, it failed and backfired. Alas, there is no 'there' there, only in your diseased mind. But you do reveal an intense jealousy- successful blog, successful board position. You are absolutely obsessed with me. Creepy. How about minding your business for a change and getting out of mine, you sick creep? Your jealousy has eaten your brain. As for the national news, they will be far more interested in your tale and you know exactly why that is. I am not a news anchor on a major NYC radio station, so I'm afraid I am not the one the national news will be gunning for. http://grafixavenger.blogspot.com/2012/12/zimmer-asks-senators-to-take-action.html
FAP December 18, 2012 at 04:04 PM
So MadisonMonroe any comments on Judge Bariso ordering Mason, Russo, Castellano, and Occipinti to participate in a vote to replace Councilwoman Marsh? --11:04AM Dec-18-2012
FAP January 18, 2013 at 06:51 PM
So MadisonMonroe the Old Guard complied with the Judge's order they participate in the vote. Any comments yet?


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