Kids First Win Machine Vote in Hoboken

Hoboken voted to move the municipal elections to November and to eliminate run-off elections. Rent control remains in tact in Hoboken, after Public Question 2 failed.

Kids First won Hoboken's Board of Education race in Tuesday night's elections, according to preliminary results from the city clerk's office. Absentee ballots and provisional votes were not yet included in the count as of Tuesday night.

While Tom Kluepfel, Jean Marie Mitchell and Ruthy McAllister won the machine votes, it's unclear if absentee ballots and provisional votes are going to make a difference.

It will take until Friday for the absentee ballots to be counted.

Kluepfel earned a total of 3426 votes, Mitchell received 3223 votes and McAllister took 3498 votes.

In the race for the three open school board seats in Hoboken, the Kids First ticket —  Kluepfel, Mitchell and incumbent McAllister all three backed by Mayor Dawn Zimmer — fought to hang on to their board majority.

The other slate in Tuesday's elections was Move Forward, made up of candidates Anthony Oland, Felice Vasquez and Liz Markevitch.

Oland received a total of 2512 votes, Markevitch got 2844 votes and Vazquez got 2488 votes. Independent Patricia Waiters got a total of 987 votes.

"The vote by mails are scary," McAllister said at the Kids First victory party at Court Street. "We won the honest vote, the most important vote to me."

McAllister, the only incumbent running in this election, said she was "proud and happy" to be elected back to the school board.

While happy to win on the machines after being off the board for a year, Mitchell said she is still nervous about the absentee ballots that will still have to be counted.

"I'm worried about the absentee ballots," she said. "That's always on issue."

It wasn't clear as of Tuesday night how many vote by mail ballots were sent into the Hudson County Clerk's office.

Two weeks ago, all seven candidates debated the issues in a public forum.

The school board race was particularly contentious, even for Hoboken standards, complete with a roving political attack ad depicting a Nazi flag in a urinal last month. 

In the senatorial race, Hudson County native U.S. Senator Bob Menendez beat Joe Kyrillos. Hoboken's Congressman Albio Sires easily won re-election on Tuesday.

Hobokenites also decided three public questions in Hoboken. As a result of Tuesday's elections, municipal elections will be moved to November. Run-off elections were eliminated and rent control was upheld in the city of Hoboken.

On the first question 7,621 voted to eliminate run-off elections, while 5,295 voted to keep them. Hoboken also chose to move the municipal elections to November by a large margin with 8,475 voting "yes" and 2,485 voting "no."

This means that the 2013 mayoral election will take place in November 2013, rather than May.

Hobokenites also overwhelmingly came out for President Barack Obama. On Tuesday, 11,611 Hobokenites voted for Obama, while 5,843 voted for Republican candidate Mitt Romney.

jen brez November 07, 2012 at 07:16 PM
What are the numbers for the vote on rent control? Odd that they are missing from this article.
Hobbs November 07, 2012 at 07:36 PM
No: 6,975 Yes: 6,444
cassandra November 07, 2012 at 08:05 PM
new machine in town
XJS November 07, 2012 at 08:07 PM
I don't care where they stand. I'm not voting on that single issue. Honesty is the only thing that matters to me. If your single issue is rent control, I think you shouldn't be allowed to vote.
oldguard November 07, 2012 at 08:20 PM
I'd be interested voter participation in Hoboken. What # voted in Presidential, Senate, House races? Then the # for the questions, seems about 12-13,000. The fall-off to the BOE races seems to be significant, with the top vote getter at 3500. I say that the voter particpation that was the rallying cry for so many, did not materialize.
HOBO87 November 07, 2012 at 08:36 PM
Though others have responded in various ways to my raising the rent control issue, I certainly didn't say Zimmer had no 'right' to express an opinion. That's always a straw man anyway, somebody's 'right' to have or express an opinion. I simply disagree strongly with Zimmer, and while it's possible to construct a 'benefit of the doubt' argument that she took that position bravely, I tend to think she did it because she thinks she can always count on voters like me who intensely detest the Old Crooks, while pandering to an additional segment of subsidized tenants who don't give a flying f about reform. And if it really wouldn't affect one single vote for her to take up the cause... then why did she waste time doing so? But I agree with Puzzle, until the Old Crook faction completely collapses, Zimmer is at least partly right in assuming she can get away with being a half ass reformer (which she is, at best, on many things, not just this) and I'll still be forced to vote for her. But I still wonder if such pandering affects her political position overall as positively as I believe she thinks it does.
puzzledone November 07, 2012 at 08:59 PM
I don't believe that we should launch Hoboken into a tornado of reform overnight, gradual movement will help us much more in the long term, but it is definitely being pushed in the right direction, and I look for further movement.
XJS November 07, 2012 at 09:03 PM
I tend to agree with your points here. I also think she is a good person and likeable. Two things which may not make her the best leader I've ever seen, but at least I can trust her.
ThisMeansWar November 07, 2012 at 09:11 PM
What a knee-jerk moron you are. Who had the Nazi truck? Who had the midnight fliers? Who had the illegal 5013c campaign head-quarters? Who hired the out of town craigs list goon squad? Who may yet steal this election with a stack of VBMs from "campaign workers" you never saw? But because KF won fair and square you call it a machine. Idiot. The "machine" you are referring to amounts to the will of the people voting in November instead of April. Gotta problem with that? What a surprise.
Eric Kurta November 07, 2012 at 10:18 PM
Well, let's have a look. Total votes cast (for three seats): 2008 - 11,215 2009 - 15,056 2010 - 9,941 2011 - 10,523 2012 - 18.995 Looks like increased voter participation to me, especially in light of neither campaign being able to communicate with voters in the week leading up to the election.
Eric Kurta November 07, 2012 at 10:39 PM
And that's not counting all the paper ballots in the 2012 race.
HOBO87 November 07, 2012 at 10:54 PM
I also think Zimmer is likeable, trustworthy (relative to the crooks who ruled the 20+ previous years I was here before she took office) and not the best leader. There's certainly room for agreeable disagreement about the pace of change. But though no political insider by any means, I'd again mention my interest in a council ally's open statement, in a small group, of his frustration with Zimmer's tendency to try to placate Old Crook voters (not the OC's themselves) too much, and I noted that the same councilman made no mention of the rent control ordinance in his note to constituents before the election. So again Zimmer has the 'right' to express an opnion, and I have the 'right' to be displeased that she didn't stay silent if she couldn't summon the courage to actually support the measure (rent control is a basic component of the kind of electorate that elects corrupt politicians, so favoring rent control and speaking of 'long term reform' is a contradiction, just IMO). And supporters' intensity and monetary contributions to campaigns can also be affected, not just their votes. Just how I feel has no measurable impact, obviously, but I again wonder if Zimmer is weakening herself by trying to be a 'third way' herself it seems (I totally agree that self proclaimed 'third ways' against her have up to now uniformly been fronts for the Old Crooks).
Eric Kurta November 07, 2012 at 10:54 PM
Electing a mayor who is honest and well-intentioned was a quantum leap in Hoboken politics.
Hobbs November 07, 2012 at 11:24 PM
LOL. Just IMO. HOBO87, but you really seem desperate to try some anti-Administration political spin yourself.
Journey November 07, 2012 at 11:57 PM
I emailed my vote on the 5th and it has not been counted yet. You can check on line. A lot of people planning to vote machine that left voted just like me.
Fire Carmelo Garcia November 08, 2012 at 02:46 PM
Why are they waiting until nov 20th to count the missing ballots?
Redwing forever November 08, 2012 at 03:36 PM
Big Ruthy If you Vote by mail its not Honest? Do you know that it is ok to vote by mail!!!!!!!
puzzledone November 08, 2012 at 04:34 PM
It is OK to vote by mail, but are all the votes by mail in Hoboken honest? http://www.bluejersey.com/diary/17458/red-flags-how-much-does-it-cost-to-buy-an-election-in-hobokens-4th-ward
Ojo Rojo November 08, 2012 at 04:46 PM
I question the integrity of every campaign that employes hundreds of street workers and the honesty of every vote cast by those street workers. No CC or BOE race needs that many workers and it is really suspect when so many of them use a VBM ballot and only get paid when they turn their ballot in to the campaign that is giving them that $40 or $100 check.
Facts Alone November 08, 2012 at 06:16 PM
ruth mcAllister is an idiot. "The vote by mails are scary," McAllister said at the Kids First victory party at Court Street. "We won the honest vote, the most important vote to me." Wonder why the schools are such a wreck? Morons like mcAllister run the board of ed? If you voted by mail, McAllister thinks you are dishonest. That's the kind of nonsense they are teaching to the kids in our schools? If you were flooded, out of electricty or maybe living somewhere out of Hoboken and voted by mail, then kids first calls you a crook. if you're an old lady with an oxygen machine and you don't get out much anymore so you sent in an absentee ballot, then McAllister thinks you are a dishonest character. Hope the thousands of people who voted for this idiot are happy. She used that same insane logic to fire two of the best teachers in hoboken. FACT: Peter Cunningham is sending around a letter telling KF supporters they can still get in their email votes. Hey peter talk to mcAllister cause she doesn't want those votes cause they are not honest.
Ojo Rojo November 08, 2012 at 06:22 PM
Fact, if MF wins b/c of a few hundred votes from people who got paid, then they definitely didn't win b/c people honestly voted for who they felt was best to run the schools. Can't wait to see the campaign filings and how much dirty money you guys shoveled into this race. And I really can't wait to see how much you don't disclose on those campaign filings like all those in-kind contributions.
XJS November 08, 2012 at 06:22 PM
Oh good lord. Everyone knows she means the votes harvested by the likes of the Calicchio kid and Raia.
Facts Alone November 08, 2012 at 07:41 PM
You KF goons treat the people who live in the Housing Authority like brainless wimps who don't know up from down unless Matt Calicchio tells them what to do. Your arrogance shows through in all you say and do. Kids first puts on red shirts and hands out buttons to clueless moms at 4th street park just trying to get their babies some sunshine and that's not "harvesting". maybe their votes are just cheaper to harvest - like free balloons and cookies for the kids and laptops when you reach 13. FACT: I didn't see anything in the KF mailer that said SAT scores down for six years in a row! NJ Ask scores are rock bottom!
ThisMeansWar November 08, 2012 at 07:59 PM
I would say the person who shows the least respect for residents of the HHA is the person who pays them $40 to commit a felony by selling their vote.
Ojo Rojo November 08, 2012 at 08:05 PM
If MF actually respected the people of the HHA and the rest of this town, they'd let people vote w/o paying anyone and respect the outcome of an election free of bought votes.
bubbles November 08, 2012 at 11:50 PM
Finally! Someone who knows how to take direction- smear, lie, distort AND name calling! " idiot, morons, arrogance, goons, brainless wimps, and clueless" YOU are da Bomb! Now, if I could have just gotten everyone else to follow your lead we'd have gotten a much bigger lead and not have to worry about the damn machine votes. what the heck is that about, anyway? if we win, Steak dinner , free cell and a laptop is on... keep on keepin on! It aint ova yet!
Facts Alone November 09, 2012 at 03:19 AM
where's the distortion? McAllister is the one who said only machine votes are honest. throw back kf's words at them and their feelings get hurt and they cry about distortion. and then peter cunningham says send in your email vote for mcallister. but he sure don't send his precious kids to the schools that mcallister runs. no distortion. just the FACTS baby. SAT scores stink and keep going down. That's a FACT. NJ Ask scores stink and keep going down. That's another FACT. tell the truth and kf calls it a smear.
pdq November 09, 2012 at 03:51 PM
When your precious Gagliardi, Ralsowski and group ran the district, only 35% of the children needed to pass the NJASK, now 85% need to pass NJASK. When your group ran the district, only 50% of the district kids took the SAT now almost all take SAT. When your group ran the district, only 50% of the kids took the 11th grade HSPA in 11th grade now 100% take the HSPA. When your group ran the district, they had 297 pages of audit violations and 530 employees vs a fiscal responsiblity award and less than 400 employees. When your group ran things, there were to 10% tax levy increases vs flat tax levy year after year. When your group ran things, the kids had 12 year old textbooks,no technology plan, no capital improvement money set aside, no curriculum, 2.3 million in legal liabilites, and 1.3 million in food service costs.
Journey November 09, 2012 at 04:03 PM
These are the reasons that I have been voting against Raia and company since 2006. Which is why I vote foe kids first. If the choice was between a slate connect to Raia and no one, I would write in the devil. The lesser of two evils and all… Because of Kids First, I don't have to vote for the devil.
HOBO87 November 10, 2012 at 06:11 AM
I know that's always eventually the response, criticize the mayor, and you must be 'spinning' for somebody. Care to tell me for whom, rather than just making such a vague innuendo? The 'A grade for the mayor' position reminds me a little of Steve Jobs' comment about President Obama (though AFAIK Jobs continued to basically favor Obama over the alternative), that Obama spent a lot of time explaining to Jobs why almost everything he agreed with Jobs was desirable to improve the business climate was impossible to do. Maybe it is impossible to really clean out the PD, FD, and City Hall employees in a serious way, make any progress toward ejecting the high income freeloaders from 'middle income' buildings which pay almost no taxes, and in general actually lower property tax rates meaningfully (the small cut I got by challenging my assessment dwarfed the effect of any rate cuts in last few years). Maybe nothing much can be done on those, and Zimmer has done nothing much on them. I do give her high marks for getting rid of the hospital albatross. I guess it just touches a nerve for her to actually come out in support of the blight of rent control, and I think it's for the usual reason politicians have supported this terrible policy where ever it's been implemented: more votes to be had from subsidized tenants than votes from landlords whose property rights are thrown under the bus. If the above is 'spin', so be it.


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