On the Agenda: New Smoking Regulations in Hoboken's Public Parks

A new law could mean that cigarettes are outlawed in playgrounds and dog runs.

Hoboken's eight-member City Council will vote on a new law to curtail smoking in the city's playgrounds and dog runs.

The new law prohibits smoking at certain areas of Hoboken's public parks. The ban doesn't apply to places like Pier A Park, where there are no playgrounds or dogruns.

A first version of the ordinance outlawed smoking in all public parks, but it was amended, said Councilwoman Jennifer Giattino.

The law is now up for second reading. If approved, it will be a law in about 20 days.

This is not the first law that bans smoking. of a municipal building (including schools).

XJS January 02, 2013 at 09:15 PM
How is your asthma bothered by someone smoking 5-10 feet away from you? People who think that they are bothered remind me of a girl I went to college with. Suffice it to say she had to be moved to a handicapped room in a non-smoking dorm so that she could shut the smoke out b/c of her asthma. Funny thing is, she had no problem going to bars and drinking all night while people smoked. She didn't have the smoke issues she thought she did. I think for most people smoking is just gross so they have "health reasons" for needing to be away from it. Get over it.
David A. Liebler January 02, 2013 at 10:02 PM
Another worthless and petty cause the Mayor thinks is a good idea. Stupid and it will never be enforced...just like the noise ordinance and giving tickets to people who scream at night. She is taking a page out of Bloombergs playbook. So trivial and useless. Just another PR footnote to a mayor that spends over $2 Million a year on lawyers, planners and anyone else that can help her re-election. Watch for more of these types of BS PR agenda items....
HobokenTownie January 02, 2013 at 10:25 PM
And NYC has become a wonderful place under Bloomberg's reign. I guess graft and corruption are more appealing to you.
ThisMeansWar January 02, 2013 at 11:29 PM
So says the media sponsor for Beth Mason's transparently cynical fake county charity.
demosthenes January 03, 2013 at 02:21 AM
How are the City's lawyers helping the mayor win reelection? By winning cases? How about the planners? By creating plans for balanced development? You really need to reread your posts before hitting send. Use this standard - would a third grader reading my post be able to to make me look like an idiot by pointing out my incoherent nonsense. If the answer is yes then perhaps you should consider hitting delete instead of send so people don't start thinking you were home schooled by Tim Occhipinti.
Jay Bell January 03, 2013 at 07:24 AM
I agree with you 100%. This is bad politics. www.firebrandcentral.com
Journey January 03, 2013 at 02:42 PM
And smoking is one of the reasons I didn't go out to bars much. It is why I stopped going to some restaurants. If they are close enough for me to breath their smoke it is a problem. So you want the right to smoke anywhere outside, and I should just stay inside with the windows closed. I don't think your right to smoke should interfere with my need to breath. Someone I used to know used to ask smokers if it was ok to piss or spit in their drink, while the smoker was smoking in the air they had to breath.
Ojo Rojo January 03, 2013 at 03:12 PM
You can breath elsewhere. Move 5 feet over and you will be fine.
XJS January 03, 2013 at 03:18 PM
Journey - I've never smoked. I'll never smoke. I find it disgusting. But it's legal. So yea, people should be allowed to do it outside as it disburses. Most people who say their health is at risk because of 2nd hand smoke (especially when outdoors) are full of crap. Smokey bar - sure, I get it. But it's not like you're in a bar improving your health. It's not a gym.
XJS January 03, 2013 at 03:19 PM
You're contaminating MY air with YOUR car exhaust.
Journey January 03, 2013 at 05:27 PM
So if I'm in part of the park because that gives me the best vantage point to supervise a child, I should move in order to not breath the fumes. Which might mean I have to ask the child to stop playing on the equipment they were using. The right to swing your fist ends at my nose. Why should the right to smoke not also end where it can affect other people. Have any of you had asthma for the last 30 years? Do you know about the different types, such as exertion induced, allergy induced, etc? I know what things trigger my asthma, cigaret smoke is one thing, lysol is ever worse. I can't be in the same room where lysol has been sprayed. I even picked my daughter's daycare based partially on how often that stuff is sprayed. Since smoking, while not illegal, is not required to keep on living, while breathing is, I would like to not have to rearrange my activities around the activities of smokers. Count your blessings, in NYC there is no smoking in parks and beaches, you are less restricted in Hoboken.
Journey January 03, 2013 at 05:29 PM
I don't drive. I choose not to drive because with my vision while it is legal for me to drive, I know it would put other people at risk. I'm sorry if I leave by standards that you can't but I don't like when people put my life at risk. I judge people by the standards by which I live.
Cecilia Lisa January 03, 2013 at 05:50 PM
This has nothing to do with Children, where did that come from? There are many adults that just do not want to smell or be around it, it stinks. There should be designated areas in the park for those that do smoke. When I walk in front of the Wiley Building I hold my breath as well, the smoke stinks up the whole block. This may be the reason they are allowing smoking on pier A, that building is now requesting employees must be 50 feet away from the building and offices. When I walk into any building even City Hall it stinks inside, when someone smokes they do not smell it as much and it lingers. It;s should just be a courtesy, some people dont like it. Who many people are still really smoking anyway?? its not cool , its expensive and it kills!!
Cecilia Lisa January 03, 2013 at 05:53 PM
And I agree, this will go nowhere, but its always fun to see and read the comments. Usually when anything gets to the meeting it is already a done deal, they just want the public to feel they had a say.. Dont you just love the biker lanes with no bikes in them ??? lmao that was a good one !!
Cecilia Lisa January 03, 2013 at 07:23 PM
So true !
Cecilia Lisa January 03, 2013 at 07:23 PM
So true
Cecilia Lisa January 03, 2013 at 07:27 PM
lol I dont they have anything to do with it, and its the nanny's that hog up the tree rooted infested sidewalks.. Should we pick on them too, property owners that refuse to fix the sidewalks because the tree was there when they bgt the 3.2 Million dollar brownstone, did I mention they dont even salt the 2 x 4 sidewalk either while we are on sidewalks..
XJS January 03, 2013 at 08:22 PM
YEP. Another stupid feel-good law. I won't vote for the corruptos who oppose reform, but when I have a chance to vote for other reformers who won't go making this town into suburbia with a mix of Bloomberg iron-fisted policy, I will vote for them.
XJS January 03, 2013 at 08:43 PM
Journey - we ALL know you don't drive. You say it all the time. My post is directed at HT Again, I don't smoke and never have. I just feel people are infringing on the rights of smokers.
Ojo Rojo January 03, 2013 at 09:00 PM
Yes, you move 5 feet over or you ask the smoker to move. Grow up Journey. The world doesn't revolve around you and we shouldn't have to tailor laws to suit the needs of hypochondriacs. And seriously, if you are so sensitive that you can't handle a wiff of smoke outside then might I suggest you invest in a bubble to live in b/c I somehow doubt you can handle the exhaust of a lawn mower, a bus or truck or even the scent of a backyard grill. What next, we going to ban peanut butter in city parks? How about we ban dogs that aren't hypoallgerenic too?
Journey January 03, 2013 at 09:23 PM
You are aware how some smokers react to being asked to move? Oh like the lot of you. Now when I ask a smoker to move and they give me rude lip, I can politely tell them about the law. If they are still rude, I can tell them that they can move or I can call the police.
Journey January 03, 2013 at 09:30 PM
Well I've had to deal with smokers infringing on my right, no need, to breath. Smoking is optional, breathing is not. Watch the average smoker, they have very little consideration for others, who has to breath in their fumes, or the mess they leave when the drop their butts on the street, or the empty packs. Sure there are smokers out that they that are considerate of others. I knew someone that kept a recycled baby food jar to put her ash and butts in. When hanging out with a group of people in the park always asked before she lit up. How many people do you know like that? If smokers had a history of being considerate of others I don't think so many non-smokers would be happy about these laws.
FAP January 04, 2013 at 12:22 AM
"...mayor that spends over $2 Million a year on lawyers, planners and anyone else that can help her re-election." . David you've lost me, and probably most people, with this comment. Other than by doing a good job how does hiring a planner help a Mayor win elections? Same for a lawyer who wins cases or protects our City's legal rights? . Can you explain what you mean?
David A. Liebler January 04, 2013 at 05:13 AM
Looking forward to Zimmer banning Slurpies and Big gulps.
Ojo Rojo January 04, 2013 at 02:15 PM
I will take a smoker w/ attitude over a hypochondriac any day of the week.
Kiri January 04, 2013 at 02:46 PM
If the noise control ordinance stops the church behind my house from blasting sermons and loud music over their amps for hours at a time, I'm all for it.
XJS January 04, 2013 at 03:57 PM
So is your asthma unaffected by the car exhaust & poor air quality in Hoboken? If not, then I find it hard to believe smoke has some effect on you. Regardless, I'm pretty sure that with all your maladies you'd have survived without modern medicine.
Journey January 04, 2013 at 05:30 PM
If I was in small sealed room with a running car, sure, everyone would be, it is a form of suicide. But the average day to day exposure, no. High ozone bugs me, I check the ozone levels before going for a run. Have you every wanted to tell the person on the elevator that they don't have to bathe in perfume? Don't you dislike that they make the elevator uncomfortable for everyone else? Why should everyone else be at the mercy of people who have no consideration for others? You can still smoke in the park, just not in the places where people might be able to move away from you because they are taking care of someone or doing something that can only be done in my part of the park. The Bloomberg ban on sodas is stupid and different, if you want to do something unhealthy that only affects you, go for it. But you are not the only person breathing the cancerous fumes.
albert ross January 09, 2013 at 03:05 PM
Well as long as dog owners follow the law and pick up after their dogs as well as keeping their dogs off the grass, I see no reason with this law.
albert ross January 09, 2013 at 03:06 PM
Well as long as dog owners follow the law and pick up after their dogs as well as keeping their dogs off the grass, I see no problem with this law.


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