Resolution To Appoint Jim Doyle To Vacant Hoboken Council Seat Passes, Pending Court Approval

Doyle will not be sworn in until Hudson County Assignment Judge Peter Bariso approves the 5-4 vote.

Mayor Dawn Zimmer cast the fifth and deciding vote Wednesday night to appoint Jim Doyle to the vacant At-Large seat on the Hoboken City Council.

But Doyle will not be taking a chair at the dais just yet. The matter is going back to Hudson County Assignment Judge Peter Bariso for a final ruling.

Council members Peter Cunningham, Jennifer Giattino, David Mello and Ravinder Bhalla voted to appoint Doyle. Councilwoman Theresa Castellano and Councilman Tim Occhipinti voted no, and Councilwoman Beth Mason and Councilman Michael Russo abstained.

The abstentions counted as two "no" votes as opposed to to "non-votes," according to the city's corporation counsel Melissa Longo. Zimmer was called in to break the tie.

In November, Judge Bariso ruled that five votes were required to appoint a new council member.

"It is what it is," said Councilman Occhipinti, a member of the council minory that appealed Doyle's appointment. "Let's just proceed here, but I haven't seen a deadlocked council here. The city's moved forward."

If the court approves the vote, Doyle will serve out the remainder of former council woman Carol Marsh's term until December 31, 2013.

Councilman David Mello lauded Doyle's appointment, citing his brief experience on the council before he was removed from the seat in November.

"I think Mr. Doyle isthe most appropriate person to take her [Carol Marsh's] place, not only because he served very well in that capacity, but I think a lot of her priorities and the things she wanted to achieve will be very much echoed by Mr. Doyle," Mello said.

Doyle will not be sworn in until the court approves the vote, and it is not yet clear when Judge Bariso will review the matter.

pdq January 18, 2013 at 03:14 AM
What kind of sad, bitter and hateful existance do you have, that you would say such things?
HudsonStreet January 18, 2013 at 03:36 AM
What is sad is that Beth Mason has little choice but to surround herself with people like you.
puzzledone January 18, 2013 at 02:34 PM
Where is CuriousGal to tell us about the Target, Isolate, Ridicule, Remove that's clearly going on right here against Scott Siegel? Is it only that when the "bully bloggers" that you baited into a lawsuit do it that it's a problem? Still, the fact that Tim Occhipinti said he was not aware of a ruling on a lawsuit for which he was a named party, in response to a lawsuit that he was a named plaintiff for, shows that at the very least, he is not paying enough attention to his own affairs to be a reasonable councilman.
HudsonStreet January 18, 2013 at 03:24 PM
What a sad little person Beth Mason is to surround herself with people like Redwing forever.
MadisonMonroe January 18, 2013 at 05:53 PM
Go back to the original stories about Mr. Doyle's appointment. Mellissa Longo, the city attorney, obviously does not have much of a background in municipal law and it showed when she said his first appointment was legal even though he didn't have five votes. You're right, I don't have a law degree from the third or fourth-tier New York Law School like Ms. Longo does. But it doesn't take three years of coursework to be able to count up to 5. Ms. Longo gave the council members bad information - as proven by Judge Bariso's removal of Mr. Doyle from the council. This council's revote this week - under Ms. Longo's direction - still couldn't put Mr. Doyle on the dais. How humiliating to this council and city that it can't make a move without getting approval from a judge. An Essex Co. judge handed down a similar ruling in Newark (Ms. Longo's last employement) against a move by Mayor Cory Booker and his council cohorts to force through a similar appointment even though they didn't have the votes to force the necessary tie-breaker by Booker. The judge ruled that absentions don't count as anything other than non-votes and, therefore, that seat is vacant until November. When will the Mayor and her council supporters finally realize that the vast majority in this city just wants them to follow the law? Stop blaming those who bring the lawsuits and start doing the right thing. And spend our tax money on a better lawyer!
ThisMeansWar January 18, 2013 at 06:42 PM
A Russo, Mason, Occhpinti supported saying she just wants the city to "follow the law"! Good one! You are on fire.
FAP January 18, 2013 at 07:01 PM
MadisonMonroe if the Judge deems the vote valid will you say that Mason, Occipinti, Russo, and Castellano have wasted the taxpayers money by forcing a Judge to order them to participate in a valid vote? . I'm just trying to understand if you're being fair on this issue or if you're just an old guard partisan.
pdq January 19, 2013 at 05:36 PM
Speaking of following the law; Has you Board Of Ed slate, Move Forward, returned the nearly $7000 in illegal donations, yet? The deadline is past due.
Smokestack January 20, 2013 at 08:25 PM
Timmy, Terry, Mike and Beth are toast. The Hoboken Reporter goes right into the recycling bin. Take a moment to pat ourselves on the back for standing up to political corruption and banning smoking in the dog run. But now it's time to ignore all the divisive propaganda and come together and start focusing beyond St. Patrick's Day, and on the future of this town and the real adult problems on our plate. You know....like jobs and better wages for all Hobokenites, or how to protect our city from the next superstorm, or how to achieve the much needed infrastructure repair. Let's have some real health and public safety reform and make the state and Port Authority more accountable. We finaly have an honest Mayor. Let's take advantage of our good fortune. Let's rise above. Don't believe the partisan hype. We can do it if we work together.
Highonthehog January 21, 2013 at 05:53 PM
If council woman marsh knew she was leaving before the deadline to have the seat put on the ballot and did not do so,I believe she,and whoever advised her to do so caused this suit.THe people should have voted,Scott Siegel would have been a much better choice.
John Keim January 31, 2013 at 07:29 PM
HOTH is correct to blame Carol and whoever advised her but wrong on the choice. Jim would make an excellent councilperson (as would Leah Healey) - had Carol done the right thing Jim could have been on the November ballot and he probably would have won. I would have voted for him.
John Keim January 31, 2013 at 07:30 PM
Another note - had any of the last several mayors pulled a stunt like this the "reform" community would have been up in arms but now this is o.k.
Ojo Rojo January 31, 2013 at 09:38 PM
Had anyone but Beth Mason pulled any of the stunts Beth Mason has pulled over the last 4 years, you'd have gone berserk about it. And no, you would not have voted for him b/c he is diametrically opposed to Mason and everything you now support. You are so blinded by your devotion to her that you just can't see the havoc she has caused.
puzzledone January 31, 2013 at 10:30 PM
John, when Beth Mason had a midnight resolution to take over the council chair, the "reform" members of the council pretty much rolled over and let her have her way. I fail to believe that reform would be up in arms over a resignation that allowed colleagues to pick a likeminded replacement. Of course, the midnight resolution came after contributions flowed right through your hands to Tim Occhipinti on their way to 575 campaign workers, so your lack of objectivity is expected.
FAP January 31, 2013 at 10:46 PM
John are these belated posts your sad way of comforting yourself ahead of tomorrow's court ruling?
demosthenes January 31, 2013 at 11:21 PM
I know I know legal concepts can be hard to grasp, but perhaps you should ask Mr. Kleinman about what this lawsuit has been about. He will doubtless explain to you that the timing of Ms. Marsh's resignation has nothing whatsoever to do with the lawsuit, though you are personally certainly entitled to your personal opinion about the timing just as others are entitled to make personal judgments about the propriety of your actions. And with all due respect, your willingness to vote for someone is hardly a litmus test for whether someone would make a fine councilperson.
ThisMeansWar February 01, 2013 at 11:50 AM
Speaking of stunts - do you happen to know if the illegal contribution to Move Forward by the oxymoronically named "Friends of Beth Mason" group was returned? http://hoboken.patch.com/articles/7-000-campaign-donation-at-center-of-discussion Asking because FofBM appears to still be using your address as the place from which checks are issued and to which, presumably, illegal checks ought to be returned. I hate to admit it but CuriousGal was dead-right about November elections. She kept warning us about dirty money getting into campaigns if elections were moved to November. And lo and behold we had a Nazi truck and vile midnight fliers. And we just can't imagine who was behind them. But CuriousGal will let us know. Anyhooooooo.... Sure would be nice to hear that Beth's illegal donation "has been cleared up" to use the preferred expression. As a watchdog for political hypocrisy, I'm sure you feel the same. Right? Right...?
pdq February 01, 2013 at 06:39 PM
Judge ruled that Jim Doyle was validly appointed as a Councilman.
DaHorsey, SmartyJones of MSV February 01, 2013 at 06:45 PM
Judge Bariso has ruled in favor of the people of Hoboken against Beth Mason and her MORTe allies. Jim Doyle's appointment to the City Council is confirmed after the judge ordered the full council to finally meet and vote. Mayor Zimmer announced the victory of the people of Hoboken against Mason, Russo, Castellano and Occhipinti earlier. Abstentions are "no" votes for purposes of these appointments but the brilliant legal Masonistas will continue no doubt to tell you otherwise. Hey, I'll tell you the same if you pay me too. LOL Official details: http://hobokenhorse.com
tony February 01, 2013 at 07:08 PM
John you'll now have the chance to vote for him in November Maybe you can even play the piano at his swearing in!
tony February 01, 2013 at 08:33 PM
(I'm taking bets on his letter of support)
John Keim February 02, 2013 at 04:03 AM
Glad he's in. I think he'll do a good job. I know he will be a staunch advocate for parks.
John Keim February 02, 2013 at 04:07 AM
TMW - the truck you hate only reproduced images from an offensive website. I found the truck distasteful but I also found the original images on the offensive website distasteful. The truck did nothing to advance the cause of the candidtates it purportedly supported but the fact of the matter is, all it did was reproduce the images from one of the two partisan websites in town that purport to give us "official details".
Journey February 03, 2013 at 12:56 AM
With the website, if you did't go to the site. With the truck, you don't have that much control.
Journey February 03, 2013 at 12:57 AM
Oh and about those contributions, and your address. Mind clearing up that?
pdq February 03, 2013 at 12:58 AM
Has you Board Of Ed slate, Move Forward, returned the nearly $7000 in illegal donations, yet? The deadline is past due
Journey February 03, 2013 at 01:00 AM
Unless your are her close friend, how do you know why she stepped down when she did? At least when she was on the council she called in when she could not make it to a meeting, even from a hospital.
John Keim February 05, 2013 at 03:17 AM
Journey, I don't know what you are talking about. pdq, I believe the ordinance you refer to itself is illegal from what I understand. I had nothing to do with any of what you folks are screaming about so perhaps. I have known Jim Doyle since 1977 (before either of us moved to Hoboken and I think before most of you moved to Hoboken as well - I moved here in 1984).
John Keim February 05, 2013 at 03:18 AM
pardon the type glitch, perhaps we should all try to get along.
DaHorsey, SmartyJones of MSV February 15, 2013 at 09:09 PM
How is the ordinance limiting pay to play in contributions illegal? Because Beth Mason says it's okay to break the law? Beth Mason and Tim Occhipinti said passing the ordinance limiting pay to play was unconstitutional. It's neither unconstitutional nor illegal. Does anyone else find it more than ironic Beth Mason breaks laws when she wants and then passes other laws she insists we obey? Okay, back to the I heard it was an illegal law, so it doesn't apply to me Beth Mason game.


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