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Hoboken District Looking to Introduce Junior-Senior High School Model

The Hoboken Board of Education is looking to move the seventh grade into the high school. A public meeting to discuss this with parents will be held.

The Board of Education and Superintendent Dr. Mark Toback are considering a plan in which Hoboken's seventh graders could move into the High School next school year.

Rather than adopting a middle school model in the district — which was discussed last year — Toback said he is now looking into the option of a junior-senior high school.

The seventh graders would be able to use the high school's resources, but won't be in class with the high schoolers, Toback said.

"It'd be like a school within a school," Toback said. There'd be electives and programs for the seventh graders.

"At that age they're trying to learn about the world," Toback said. "It opens up a world of new learning opportunities."

Before a decision will be made, parents will have the opportunity to chime in, Toback said. A forum will be scheduled for the last week of February.

Redwing forever February 15, 2013 at 06:30 PM
This has not worked with the 8 th graders so why do it with the 7 th graders maybe Jersey city parents will like it because most of Hoboken High school are from Jersey City. 12 year old females with 18 yr old man in class is this good or bad. BAD!!!!!
franksinatra February 16, 2013 at 01:21 AM
this is a very smart idea. the community should really back Toback on this. the 8th graders in the high school has been a big success. there was skepticism at first but now the kids like it and the parents like it, and it would've been very hard to take the 8th graders out of there. they get the advantage of all the high school facilities but they're kept separate from the high school kids. Redwing--you're talking nonsense! 7th graders are not going to be in class with 18 year olds. when is anyone in any school in a class with kids five grades ahead? So many schools in NJ--public and private--have moved to this 7-12 model and more are moving next year. Some schools are k-12. With the high school half empty (it was built for 1,200 kids and there are 600 there) and the grade schools crowded, it makes perfect sense to use the buildings more efficiently and provide the 7th graders with more guidance and other services and much better facilities, such as the pool and a real gym. The board, both Kids First and the old guard members, should certainly support Toback on this.
PeoplePlease February 19, 2013 at 05:39 PM
I've seen this mentioned a few times now. Why are there students from JC enrolled at Hoboken High?
Journey February 19, 2013 at 06:46 PM
It is called school choice. We get money from JC for legally enrolled students. If a Hoboken student wanted to go JC they could though the same program. They will not be in the same classes. Educate yourself about what Jr./Sr. High School medel is.
CuriousGal February 20, 2013 at 04:04 AM
School choice was a program that Kids First was against a few years ago (when it wasn't their idea) but one that they embrace now since Hoboken families have been abandoning the district's traditional public schools in record numbers (the district is currently at its ALL TIME low in terms of student enrollment). Perhaps Kids First supporter and former Hoboken Board trustee sums up "choice" best, Minutillo said choice is more about finances, not educational benefits. And Journey lies when she says that JC students will not be in the same classes as Hoboken resident students-- of source they will. Its illegal to segregate them by where they live.
Redwing forever February 21, 2013 at 05:08 PM
dear franksinatra they do have Gym at the same time in clubs and the play so before think about this and i had a 8th grader in there and miss Pic has no control i hope the Newark VP will be taking over now not next year as people are talking about. and Schlool choice does not pay the full cost hoboken tax payers pay more than a 1/4 of the money for the kids from out of town because we (Hoboken ) per kid is higher then the state ave. so in the long road hoboken kids and Taxpayers lose and out of towners win.....
staypositive February 22, 2013 at 09:15 PM
The main reason they want to move the 7th graders to HHS is low enrollment. Most of the HS students are from Jersey City via school choice. The school choice students even receive transportation vochers to attend HHS, yet we can't provide transportation for our displaced pre-schoolers. Each year the 8th graders apply to other high schools because they don't want to attend Hoboken High School. It's sad when administrators try to entice our students with use of the indoor pool. Here's an idea for the current board of ed and administrators....improve the education, update the books and curriculum, and address the behavioral problems at the HS and possibly it might become an option in the future. Until then, stop forcing young HOBOKEN children to attend a failing high school! Our enrollment declined when our 7th graders were moved to the HS. I can't imagine how low the enrollment will drop if we force the 7th grade to attend HHS. Parents need to stand up and have a voice for their children!
staypositive February 22, 2013 at 09:25 PM
I couldn't agree with you more! Tax payers should be outraged in paying for out-of-town children to attend our public schools. Hoboken High School might as well be renamed Jersey City High School. All anyone needs to due is watch the enormous amount of children who enter Hoboken via the Jersey City Heights staircase into Hoboken or simply go to a board of education meeting and ask about the percentage of out-of-towners currently enrolled in our school system. Is it any wonder the school's enrollment is at an all-time low?
staypositive February 22, 2013 at 09:33 PM
The 8th grade move has not been a success. Just ask the current students and parents of the 8th graders. The high school is most definitely half empty which is the main reason they want put 7th graders in the building. It's not about improving the education of the students, rather it's about keeping the building open so they can keep hiring their friends from the FAILING Newark District as administrators. As far as the gym and pool, thanks, but no thanks.
staypositive February 22, 2013 at 09:38 PM
Jersey City students are enrolled in our Hoboken Public School system because our enrollment it at an all-time low! The hs would be forced to close, so they continue to take out-of-town children and force our 8th and 7th graders to attend school in the building to justify it remaining open.
pdq February 22, 2013 at 10:05 PM
UGH! You really should do your homework. Charter schools are locally funded public schools and have non resident students, as well. JC students in both Charter and district school Per pupil costs are covered by JC, so is their transportation costs,( if the home district is a bussing district). If the home district is not a bussing district, no money is granted for the transportation costs unless, it is a special education student requiring such services, which again means the home district (JC) NOT the receiving district, would be liable for the costs. Which is another reason (aside from the fact that it is only a 1 sq mile city) that Hoboken taxpayers would not want the district to become a bussing district. Districts that have schools more than 2 miles from a residential home are "bussing districts". One mile doesnt make the state standard. Oh and regarding your recommendations, check the minutes or watch the meetings.......".improve the education, update the books and curriculum, and address the behavioral problems at the HS" has been done or is ongoing.
staypositive February 22, 2013 at 10:47 PM
Why is it that you only responded to my comment about transportation? I'm fully aware that the sending district pays for transportation' however you are only kidding yourself if you believe out-of-town students are not benefiting from Hoboken tax dollars. Again, the main reason for putting 7th and 8th graders in the hs is to increase the number of students in the building. Do your own homework and you won't be able to deny the fact that our district is at an all time low enrollment and NJ ASK scores continue to decline.
REDWINGER February 22, 2013 at 10:59 PM
THE HOBOKEN BOARD OF EDUCATION IS DESPERATE UPGRADE THEIR STUDENT POPULATION, MOVING 7TH GRADERS TO THE HIGH SCHOOL IS NOT ACADEMICALLY, SOCIALLY NOR SAFE......DID YOU KNOW IF THIS IS PASSED THERE IS NO GRADUATION, YEAR, NOR RECOGNITION OF THE STUDENTS ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR THEIR EIGHT YEARS. NO GOODBYES OF TREASURED MEMORIES TO THEIR PEERS AND TEACHERS, PLEASE PLEASE GO TO THE MEETING AND VOICE YOUR OPINION. DO YOUWANT YOUR 7TH GRADERS USING THE SAMEREST ROO, LOCKER ROOMS, AS 12TH GRADERS. I THINK NOT. I URGE ALL TO ATTEND THE SCHEDULED MEETING ON THIS MATTER. IT IS YOUR RIGHT TO SAY WHERE YOUR CHILDREN SHOULD GET EDUCATED. THANK YOU...HOPE TO SEE ALL FAMILY MEMBERS AND PUBLIC ATTHIS MOST IMPORTANT MEETING REMEMBER ALSO HHS HAS JERSEY CITY CHILDREN ENROLLED THERE AND THE ENROLLMENT IS STILL LOW. TALK ABOUT BEING DESPERATE TO RAISE ENROLLMENT THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
Journey February 23, 2013 at 01:49 AM
I did not mean to say that JC kids would not be in the same classes. I meant that 7th graders will not be in the same classes as 12th graders. But you knew that you, didn't you?

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